Ferrari Dino 246 replica, JH Classics/Deon - Page 2

Mirabeau3000 · #1 27th October 2008, 22:23

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Originally Posted by Gordon shaw

Can anyone help? I have a deon MIRABEAU and need the following info; front indicator and rear lights are Nissan. What model? Where does the windscreen come from? Did the SCOPERTO and the MIRABEAU share the same radiator?
Please send me a private message via the Forum or respond here if you can help.
Many thanks,

Gordon.

I'm joining this thread a bit late I know! I too have a mirabeau. If you haven't already found them, the front indicators and (I think) the rear lights are nissan 100 nx and you can still get these at a dealer. Mine has the round lights at the rear.
I think they did share the same radiator but I used a Montego rad.

Also, Gordon, did I once buy some Deon leather seats from you in Datchet some years ago?

Cheers
Jon

Crocus · #2 10th November 2008, 21:10

There is a project currently in progress to produce a completely re-engineered Replica of the Dino. The new cars will be appearing on the market in 2009. I am responsible for this and have been for the past twelve months.

I used to own a Deon, infact its problems drove me to take this project on. I have had some experience dealing with the other company in Bridgwater in the past and would like to make it clear that I have a very diffecrent way of doing things. Whilst our car and the Deon are very different beasts under the skin I'd be happy to help anyone if I can.

We are based in South Yorkshire.

limpabit · #3 11th November 2008, 05:38

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Originally Posted by Crocus

There is a project currently in progress to produce a completely re-engineered Replica of the Dino. The new cars will be appearing on the market in 2009. I am responsible for this and have been for the past twelve months.

We are based in South Yorkshire.

Hi.

Sounds like an interesting little project you have there.

Any details of the spec engine wise etc? Or is that staying the same?

Crocus · #4 11th November 2008, 07:05

The new car will be called a D2, we're doing the fixed roof and the spider as you'd expect. A couple of things that may come as a surprise are, the engines are longitudinally mounted Audi v6 rather than transverse and the suspension is multi-link.

The bodyshell isn't identical to the Dino but it is based on a full contour survey of an original.Whilst it wouldn't fool an expert anyone who's only ever seen pictures would be hard pressed to spot the differences.

We've still got a great deal of work to do and plenty of pitfalls no doubt lay ahead but we are aiming to have the first cars on the road next year. In the early stages we will only be offering turn-key cars so that we can control the quality and keep the numbers fairly low whilst still having enough work to make a living.

If anyone wants to know a little more or has questions about the Deon as I said in my earlier post I'll do what I can.

spannermonkey · #5 29th July 2008, 15:10

Sorry for not being back to thank everyone. Been busy with home DIY and school holidays etc.

Len, thanks for your offer with the build manual. That would be great.

Andy, I have sent a few emails to them and so far haven't received a single reply to any of them. Is this normal?
Is business thriving so much that they dont need to answer peoples questions? ;0)

Cheers everyone

Paul

Len · #6 18th August 2008, 12:27

Paul,

How can I get the build manual to you?

Len

Crocus · #7 18th November 2008, 06:56

The prototype is well under way. The body shell is almost finished and we'll be starting mold production shortly. Our first generation chassis is waiting for the first shell to come out of the molds and no doubt when it arrives we'll need to update the chassis. Thiere isn't a website, infact we're consiously not advertising until we've got a working proto-type.

The market we are aiming for in the initial stages at least will be turn-key, factory built cars only. I'll let everyone who a bit more as soon as we can.

Crocus · #8 1st December 2008, 06:45

I haven't been involved in the manufacture of the Deon or any revamped version of it. I bought a Deon myself a few years ago and learnt a great deal from it but when it came to designing my own car I started from scratch.

Crocus · #9 1st February 2009, 11:10

All's going well,

The first parts of the bodyshell are due to go to the moulders at the start of next week. Its expected to take a good 3 months to complete but we're still looking good for a full prototype this year.

We've encountered a lot of technical challenges. For example, the front suspension system has been completely redesigned because of issues we discovered during testing. So at the moment the front of the chassis is being removed ready to be replaced. All part of the process lol.

I'd love to share some pictures once things are finished and tested to our satisfaction.

Regards

Tom

mac · #10 3rd April 2009, 13:24

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Originally Posted by Dino246GT

Hi,

I have a J H Classics DGT which is a replica of a Ferrari Dino 246GT and is based on a Lancia Beta. I bought the car a couple of years back needing restoration (it was orignally built around 1990), I have now rebuilt it and am looking for any information anyone has on these cars.

From what I can find on the limited information available it would seem that J H Classics were taken over (or the moulds were sold to) Deon Cars but I can't verify this as they have also disappeared.

I am after any information that any one may have on these cars, if anyone has a build manual that I could borrow and copy (a long shot I know!), then I would be eternally greatful!

Any help that anyone can give would be really appreciated as at present I don't even know where the master cylinder comes from (as it doesn't seem to be a lancia beta one).

I have attached a picture of the car in an almost finished state (prior to the retrim and wheel centres being fitted.

Thanks fall all you help.

Regards

Andrew Smith

Hi Andrew, I have the same problem as yourself. I have bought a JH Classics Dino with a 2ltr lancia engine. The car needs loads of work but I have no idea what some of the parts have come from donor wise. Did you ever track down a build manual or any parts info for the car, if you did I would be greatful to hear from you.

Regards Mac.

Dino246GT · #11 3rd April 2009, 20:34

Hi,

I never did manage to find any info.

As far as i'm aware the rear uprights and discs are Beta front with the rear callipers fitted. I believe the front are Fiat 124/Lada.

The petrol tank sender is from a Mini Van/Estate/Pickup with an extra bit added on.

I really need to know where the radiator and wiper motor are from.

If you manage to find anything out let me know and I will do likewise.

Regards

Andrew Smith

Crocus · #12 3rd April 2009, 21:39

The radiator is from an Allegro but requires some modification the part number is SM-001 and the wiper motor is from the back of a Fiat Panda. That's from the Build manual so the information is only as good as the manual. I can't vouch for it personally I've never had to test it out for myself.

If anyone else needs to know anything just give me a nudge.

Kind regards

Tom

mac · #13 4th April 2009, 09:14

Hi Tom & Andrew,

Looking at some of the paperwork & receipts that came with mine it would seem as though you are right. I have a receipt for recon lancia discs and callipers and front lada discs and callipers also the steering column is from a marina and I have heard that the wiper is from a panda. I need to change the front track rod end ball joints so I need to know what they are. Also none of the dashboard gauges work. I will post any info as and when I find out.

All the best
Mac.

Crocus · #14 4th April 2009, 19:41

HI Mac

Track rod ends are from a Fiat 132 part number 5995268, if you send me your e-mail address I'll scan the parts list and send it to you.

Kind Regards

Tom

mac · #15 5th April 2009, 17:43

Hi Tom,

Thankyou very much for your reply to my post and your kind offer to send me the parts list, I very much appreciate it. My email is brianr23@hotmail.com
I look forward to hearing from you.

Very best regards
Mac.

Crocus · #16 5th April 2009, 19:48

Hi Mac

Sorry about this but I've just found out my scanner isn't working with 64bit xp. I upgraded my pc a couple of months back and I never thought to check it until now. Soon as I get round to solving the problem I'll scan those pages for you but meanwhile anything you need to know just message me.

Regards

Tom

simmos · #17 10th April 2009, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Crocus

Hi Mac

Sorry about this but I've just found out my scanner isn't working with 64bit xp. I upgraded my pc a couple of months back and I never thought to check it until now. Soon as I get round to solving the problem I'll scan those pages for you but meanwhile anything you need to know just message me.

Regards

Tom

Hello Tom,
I have a JH classics Deon Mirabeau, i take it all the mechanical parts are the same.
Could you please email me a parts list also when you can.

Regards.

JG · #18 11th April 2009, 08:12

Seems that there are a few Dino builders/owners out there all needing answers to varous questions, would you guys be happy to have a dedicated section in the forum for your cars as per the Marlin 5Exi and Sportster rather than just a thread. Could either be dedicated to the JH/Deon Dino or broadened out to other Italian replicas.

What do you think?

John

Madabout

thecarbuilder246 · #19 6th June 2009, 11:18

hi,new on here.Stumbled across this site while looking for pcd adaptors for dino wheels.I own the last deon to come from the deon factory-smuggled out after the company went into administration!!
Kit was stored for around sevenish years and I've been messing with it for the last seven as well!! will it ever be finished.If anyone wants any info I have loads-build manuals/parts list etc etc.
I intend to fit repro dino wheels but I have the lancia/fiat 124 (later lada) 4 stud so need adaptors to 5stud.Also any info on real dino stuff.
ian

Crocus · #20 6th June 2009, 11:30

The place to get repro and used Dino wheels is Superformance, they have a good website (google will go straight to it). The PCB is 108 and the offset is as close as makes no difference to zero. They also do lots of Dino fittings but be careful not everything fits the Deon.

Kind Regards

Tom