Dino V6 conversion - Page 3

rossnzwpi · #1 15th February 2016, 22:33

What interesting differences in wheel base! Perhaps a small difference could be attributable to inaccuracies while measuring, such as not having the steering wheel dead ahead. But these are big differences! The original moulds from which nearly all (except maybe CASCU's) derive were taken off the 206GT and then David had the wheel arches moved back a bit to match the Lotus Europa Chassis he was bonding the body to. That gives 3 different possibilities: Europa/206GT/246GT. The Europa at 7'7" (2311.4mm); the 206GT's 2280mm (89.76" - 7' 5 3/4") or the 246GT's 2340mm (92.12" - 7'8.12").
Cheers
Ross

thecarbuilder246 · #2 16th February 2016, 21:11

hi all
I thought the 206gt was only 40mm shorter than 246gt not 60mm
ian

NeilF355 · #3 17th February 2016, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecarbuilder246

hi all
I thought the 206gt was only 40mm shorter than 246gt not 60mm
ian

Hi Ian
I have a Dino book by Anthony Curtis which confirms the figures Ross quoted, as does this http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=37070 website.

Neil

thecarbuilder246 · #4 21st February 2016, 09:09

Hi
Sorry but I got confused! My deon 246 has a wheelbase 40mm shorter than a real dino 246!! my mistake.
ian

rossnzwpi · #5 1st May 2016, 09:52

Hi Dai, is that your car for sale on EBay? If so, good luck with the auction - it looks in great condition
cheers
Ross

Dai · #6 1st May 2016, 12:03

Hi Ross, Yes it's mine, unfortunately I'm moving house and I need a much larger deposit than I expected.... So the toys are having to go 😢

thecarbuilder246 · #7 1st May 2016, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dai

Hi Ross, Yes it's mine, unfortunately I'm moving house and I need a much larger deposit than I expected.... So the toys are having to go 😢

HI
Very nice indeed. could I ask what kit you started out with?
ian

Dai · #8 1st May 2016, 17:11

It's a DeHaviland . This was built by Dehavilland, and was their first car. They've made a few build improvements since then, but it really is a good looking replica, and goes really well.

thecarbuilder246 · #9 8th May 2016, 09:35

Hi all
does anyone know the make of the dino replica for sale on ebay for £47K?
Looks stunning but would prefer the gt coupe version!
ian

Drsquashdavid · #10 15th May 2016, 18:42

If you look on H&H auction Duxford 20/4/16 it sold with a hammer price of £33900.
I am sure it was unsold in a previous h&H auction .
I bet it took more than the hammer price to build, and possibly could have had a build cost circa £47k :--- depending on many factors.
Indeed how does one value such cars?

thecarbuilder246 · #11 19th May 2016, 10:07

Hi all
Deon in they heyday offered turnkey cars from 33k with one reportedly sold for 35k! and we are talking 20 years ago too! What's that in today's money?
I guess you pays your money and you take your choice. I mean gt40 and cobra replica's change hands around 40>50k with ultima's going for well above this.
I've even seen repro escort MK1's going for more than the originals!

ian

rossnzwpi · #12 4th June 2016, 18:48

Do keep on showing photos Neil! Its always great to see cars in progress.
keep up the good work
Ross

thecarbuilder246 · #13 7th June 2016, 17:15

hi

I've tried a few times to upload photo's but never had any success-what's the secret?

ian

rossnzwpi · #14 9th June 2016, 05:40

Hi Ian, I think the secret to having the photo just appear on the page as opposed to being an attachment where you have a file name to click on before you see anything is: the photo has to be hosted online somewhere and you insert the URL for it.
So if you upload your photos to a free online album like photobucket or maybe instagram, etc then when you are typing a reply like this one just click the insert photo icon and you will be asked for the URL of the photo. Copy and paste it from the site you uploaded your photo to.
good luck
Ross

rossnzwpi · #15 9th June 2016, 05:42

Oh, and did I mention that it helps if the photo is a .jpg and only a 1000 or so pixels wide!
cheers
Ross

Ironmike226 · #16 5th July 2016, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dai

Hello all, I've recently purchased Dehavillands prototype Dino
I met the Dehavilland team at Stoneleigh last year, and was very impressed with their enthusiasm and their product.
With a new kit a little out of my budget right now, I snapped up the opportunity to purchase their prototype car when it came up for sale with only a couple of hundred miles on the clock.
Dehavilland have upgraded some features since building this car which I intend to update in time, but for now I'm going to use the car as it is, with the intention of starting a V6 conversion towards the end of the summer
I know there are are a few Dino replicas running around with Alfa V6s, and from what I have read, there are issues with driveshaft angles, and clearance to the engine cover .
If there are any members on here with a V6 Dino, Alfa or other , I'd be very interested in seeing some pics and learning about any issues
Has anyone fitted a V6 in a Dehavilland yet ?
Still trying to decide if an Alfa is the best engine to fit or not?

Cheers ,
Dai

Hi,
I am a potential Dehavilland Dino builder with a preference for a V6 rather than the MGTF.
Was the issue of the Alfa V6 fitting in comfortably resolved please? If so, which Alfa motor from which model Alfa is it please?
Also, does this mess up a standard wheel pattern etc front to rear given the different hubs?
All handy hints greatly appreciated as I am in Australia...
Mike

rossnzwpi · #17 2nd August 2016, 08:19

Hi Mike and welcome to the forum. Almost all Alfa V6s are the same in terms of physical size and weight. The hub pattern of Dino wheels is 5x108mm - which is only the same as Alfa 166. But the hubs can be easily fitted to other Alfas. The 156 is 2.5 litres and less power but revs a bit more freely. The 166 3.0 is biased slightly to torque. The GTA V6 is a 3.2 and has more power. There are plenty of tuning kits.
Almost anything can be made to fit and the MGF subrame is no exception. Its not a straightforward drop it in thing though.
If you want you might be able to source Dino replica wheels with blank centres to match whatever hubs you have. Or you can use welded steel wheels to match your hubs and fibreglass dino "caps"
The Alfa V6 is quite a tall engine but can obviously be fitted because many people have
best of luck.

Paul L · #18 25th September 2016, 06:25

# Just Testing #

Following this post - http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...8&postcount=14

yoeddynz · #19 25th September 2016, 08:01

Hi all,
I've only just found the Dino section on this forum :-)

I've been a huge Dino fan for the last decade, bought the book, sat in the cars, dreamed the dreams, watched the prices soar, wished I'd bought the cheap Dino replica being sold locally not far from where I was in Oxfordshire while living in Blighty for ten years.

So now back in NZ I'm still scheming.

Anyway.. this thread. If I was to build a Dino replica I'd be keen on fitting the Mazda KL ZE V6 engine that I have fitted into my Viva HB. Its tiny, lightweight at 120kg, very compact, comes with a decent box that can be had with an LSD and in JDM spec like mine comes with 200bhp @7500 rpm standard from 2.5 litres. So it matches the Dino engine very closely. It sounds fantastic, is very strong, will do huge mileages and I'm getting average of 28 mpg - in a car that has the aerodynamics of a brick.

Plus the cam cover on the N/S looks similar to the Ferrari engine....

I need to get around to replicating it on the O/S. The stock inlet manifold hides this one and its flatter. I made my own manifold and plenum to suit RWD so now its on view.

If you are more interested in these engines then you can read through my Viva build thread here. The V6 swap started about page 3 I think?...

http://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/to...ck#entry750082

Oh I do so hope I'll be in a position one day to build my own Dino!!! :-)

Alex.

Edit; more info on these engines here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_K_engine

http://davidandjemma.com/mazda/KL.htm

rossnzwpi · #20 25th September 2016, 09:13

Welcome Alex. and your Mazda V6 looks and sounds amazing - perfect for a Dino replica in many ways. Shame you didn't get that replica and bring it back to NZ. I'm still kicking myself for not buying the Dino 246 for 4000GBP when I was in London in the mid eighties - if only I knew then what we all know now.
Cheers
Ross