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Tribute Z3gato (?!!)

By Barber · 215 updates · Sep 2017 to Aug 2020

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February 2018

4 Feb 2018, 8:33am General Update
I think that the DB4 Zagato is much prettier than the DB5 that so many rave about - (mostly because of the Bond connection).
11 Feb 2018, 3:00pm Chassis and Body Interior & Trim
Nothing much of interest going on. I am cleaning, stripping and treating MBG seat frames. Not very stimulating, but I aim to spray them black this week sometime. There are loads of videos on re-furbishing these, so I'll maybe just put a couple of progress pics up for interest.

I also hope to collect my dashboard this coming week or the week after.

The 275 roofline being modified for Welsh Kiwi is the start point for my roof, and the back cannot be done until we have the roof. The front will use something like the narrow 250SWB as a start, but there is a lot of work to do on the nose.
12 Feb 2018, 3:43pm Chassis and Body Interior & Trim
Seat Refurbishment - The Paint Booth

Here is the spray paint booth, a large carton:


and here is the product:


It will all be covered in foam and seat covers, so not a lot of finesse in cleaning the frames, just a wire brush to get the rust off, and anti rust treatment, before a couple of coats of paint.
14 Feb 2018, 4:17pm Chassis and Body Interior & Trim
Zagato Roadsters

Following on from Jagtvr's comments about wanting one of these, I wondered what it would look like. Apart from the BMW and AM AR1 versions, I cannot find any others.

This is a US kit I think. Obviously a Z3 windscreen would have a bit of an effect, but this gives the gist of it I think.
15 Feb 2018, 6:28pm General Update
No problem, they are real issues that affect us all, so need to be aired.
16 Feb 2018, 8:17am Chassis and Body
A bit of a clue





This is from Welshkiwi’s thread and shows the revised 275 roofline. Raising the roof slightly helps with both the window line, as well as the need to insert a rear quarter light for the Z3gato.

If you can imagine a 250SWB coupe rear with the wings sloping down slightly at the back you can begin to get the picture.
16 Feb 2018, 11:48am General Update


I think the cage gives structural support for the roof. So long as the roll cage is required to do this, I wouldn't expect a significant shift. Roadsters top seems to have come to a halt. The tolerances and rigidity, without building a bomb shelter will probably take quite some time to get right.
16 Feb 2018, 12:08pm Chassis and Body Interior & Trim
Interesting. How much narrower is the MGB? My NG based on the MG running gear was 36 inches across the front seats panel to panel, the Z3 is 54 inches so quite a big difference.
28 Feb 2018, 6:23pm Interior & Trim
Dashboard update

Some progress on the buck for the dashboard. The hole left of centre is for a lockable glove box.


March 2018

4 Mar 2018, 10:01am Chassis and Body
Starting point for the front

Here are some beginning shots of panels for the front buck. Still a fair way to go, but the journey has begun. Waiting to hear on progress of the 275 roof.

Mondeo grill


On top
4 Mar 2018, 11:39am General Update
There will be vents of some kind below the grill, possibly 3. My preference is for recessed also.
5 Mar 2018, 12:27pm Mechanical Overhaul Chassis and Body Electrics Interior & Trim
Great news Welshkiwi.

I have been working my way through the fuse checks to see what is causing the draw. No progress during the cold snowy weather, and up to Fuse 31. They are fiddly little blighters, even with the extractor tool.

As I am using one of these:


there are two insertions and two extractions for each fuse. And due to the position of the fuses near the bulkhead, you tend to stand a bit too close and have to lean backwards.

However, now that the battery is charged up, the solar charger on the dashboard that IanA recommended seems to be doing the job. I have also bee taking the car out for a 10 mile trip every 5 or 6 days just to make sure that it starts and goes.

The fuel gauge warning beeps and the light comes on when ignition is switched on. Internet advice is to put some fuel cleaner in the tank a few times and see if it frees up the sensor mechanism. I had let the fuel get very low, so it is possible it is gunked up. We shall see. Otherwise it will be a sensor replacement.

The car drives noticeably but not unpleasantly firmer on the coil overs, so that is a relief. I really only got them to accommodate the wider wheels on the front and to allow height adjustment once the new panels are fitted. I got AP coil overs, and was advised by a mechanic (after purchase) that they are prone to knocking in the Z3 mounts. Luckily, that has not happened either.

Edit. Now checked fuses up to 46. The only draw is on the alarm / door lock remote circuit, so nothing is out of wack so far. I think there are some under the dashboard to try, and also there is a possibility of a sticky relay switch. I'll just have to keep plodding on.
5 Mar 2018, 2:50pm Chassis and Body
Paul,

You are right, it has similarities with AM, but we are not trying to replicate it. The grill on top, was a possibility if it looked half decent, but Chris was really showing how the Mondeo grill was a good fit. The Fiesta has a nicer, better proportioned grill, but is was not wide enough. However, recessing the grill disguises some of the Mondeo grill shortcomings. We'll have to see what Chris does with it depth-wise once the vents are placed underneath. we should probably take some account of kerb clearance, I have done plenty of concrete scraping with other cars.

PS Good to see the photos of your rolling chassis again, it is a cracking job.
5 Mar 2018, 9:12pm General Update


Clearly you have observed Pininfarina and Zagato.

edit. a bit like the Billy Connolly joke about Mexican Food. Same dish rolled different ways.
5 Mar 2018, 9:20pm Interior & Trim
IanA,
Interesting about your suggested cause of drain. When I had the leak from the lower part of the windscreen, it all tipped out into the passenger footwell and it was very soggy down there. Hmmmm.
6 Mar 2018, 7:52pm Interior & Trim
Dashboard Buck Progress

Coming along nicely
6 Mar 2018, 8:39pm Interior & Trim
Z3 Binacle



Yes, I wanted to keep it relatively simple. I might consider re-facing the instruments based on some threads from a couple of years ago. me and electrickery do not get along generally.
6 Mar 2018, 9:38pm General Update
It may seem heretical, but I will probably put the quarter light de-mister vents in the top of the dash as per the Z3 also.
14 Mar 2018, 11:21am Chassis and Body Electrics Interior & Trim
Electrical Drain

Having established that the only fuse drawing with the ignition off was the lock / alarm one, today, after a few days away, the driver side lock is playing up. This could be my problem. It seems like there is a mechanical as well as an actuator problem, but both are relatively easy fixes if the internet posts and videos are to be believed. Anyhow, I am now waiting for a replacement actuator to be delivered. I had already got the trim removal tool ready for the internal fit out. I am building up the momentum to find those pesky torx heads that are buried in the unsorted area of the garage.

I am determined not to go the route of a friend, who had two or three versions of every tool because he could not remember where he put the last one. He figured it was quicker and easier to buy a new one in off the internet. The more he replaced, the harder it got to find the one he was looking for.

His wife made a fortune on ebay when he passed away.
15 Mar 2018, 7:31am General Update
IanA, there is no restriction on screwdrivers and pliers. You need to have them handy, so having them in a drawer in every room, (even bedside cabinet) is quite acceptable. Torches, Stanley knives and gaffer tape the same. I would like to rule out the imaginative use of gaffer tape in the bedroom right now.