[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.
There is another way round the headlamp issue. Have you thought of "old school" In the 60´s most sports cars used 7 inch units behind glass/perspex covers to give them a streamlined look. e.g. Aston DB5, E type. GTO, etc.
You can take that route but using modern 7 inch units with L.E.D.s or projector lights or halo lighting. Some cost as little as £70 the pair.
that's looking great DSG - I still think the scoop can be less obvious I confess the mini bonnet scoop would be my choice but we are close now
Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.
[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.
There is another way round the headlamp issue. Have you thought of "old school" In the 60´s most sports cars used 7 inch units behind glass/perspex covers to give them a streamlined look. e.g. Aston DB5, E type. GTO, etc.
You can take that route but using modern 7 inch units with L.E.D.s or projector lights or halo lighting. Some cost as little as £70 the pair.
Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.
that's looking great DSG - I still think the scoop can be less obvious I confess the mini bonnet scoop would be my choice but we are close now
Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.
Hi JMC glad your still on - I remember this - I love the Lister style
Sounds interesting Nick
Chris had an idea of cutting part of the z300 scoop and inverting it - recessing it into the bonnet to creat an oval scoop.
To be honest I had got up at silly o'clock to venture down to Chris and I couldn't visualise what he was describing.
But now I can and its definitely a possibility - the Z300s power bulge is low key but the opening would be obvious
[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.
DSG I wonder if you would be so kind as to put the fiat 500 lamps on and adjust the hood scoop to something a little less intrusive.
There has been lots of talk of how inappropriate they are, im just curious.
Thank you
high beam units looked a bit orange - they will receive a smoke tint like the rear lamps and maybe the headlamps.
Tried out the revised Z300 power bulge and scoop that Chris envisaged.
I think we are pretty close.
More similar to the cobra in this pic than I imagined .
The stance will be completely different being based on a z300s.
The face being much lower than the Kobra.
It will wear AC badges though.
"AC Schnitzer"
Legitamate as my donor has AC pedals and wheels hahaha
and should keep a few guessing what it is
I did ask for feedback and I appreciate everyone's comments
We all have opinions and I respect each and every one but I do not have to agree with them.
I picked up paper and pencil and I styled the car - I do not have to compromise my vision.
If you want a similar car with a different lamp speak to Chris he is very obliging.
The head light is not just a detail - it dictates the complete form especially in side profile.
Hence why I said its an holistic approach to design and not just add a panel front and back and leave a huge chunk of unchanged donor in between.
Its even more interesting as my design is based on Nicks original vision.
Mine is just a restyle, just a tweak here and there not a full original design like the z300s was.
Please continue to comment.
But don't get upset if I don't agree.
Enough sketching
Time to do something.
Stripped the AC wheels and repainted them - Satin Black centres and Candy Red rims
Candy pops well in the sun
Time to prop it up against the car - I will wait a few days to make sure the 2k has gone hard before refitting the tyres
Good call I never thought of commercial lamps I will take a look
This car is being based on the Z300s - I cant believe this hasn't been a more popular model.
Its a very pretty car and I almost just built an unmodified one.
It has a very large nose. Great on a 50's sports / racer but I want something more modern.
I love the low headlamp height and the way it rolls over the front wheels
If I take all the advice to put lamps behind lenses or use mini lamps then the nose will remain as long.
Now if you look at the Bertini - the lamps are higher dictated by the D type front end but the fiat lamps will allow the front to be shortened.
The dynamics will be different as the lamps are about 5" lower.
Chopping the nose off is also the basis of the cobra inspired front grille.
Chris instantly found a moulding that the front valance will be made from - giving the suggestion of the separate wing / bonnet elements.
If I was making the Zagato modern mini lamps or lamps behind covers is the way.
As for the rear lamps I will look at commercial units but the trouble with car builder lamps is they are recognised as kit car lamps- they can be found on every 3rd car at every show.
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I like the red detail on the lower edge of the grill aperture and the bonnet vent looks good
Just thought I would share a few pics
The z300s showing how sleek she is
Some pics that inspired my styling
old school beauty
new school beast
This is the KC 427 a styling concept that didn't get past the computer render - although I found a similar shape someone is carving from foam.
Would have to be built on a cobra kit car chassis as the body tapers in far too much to fit on an existing body
Note how modern head lamps are sat in a shallow recess
no need for covers but allows the profile to be kept
The Z300s has wider wings than the z3 as it was designed to accommodate WCA's wire wheels and adapters.
The trick is to exaggerate the proportions.
This is a pic of a KC427 replica in foam - notice the headlamps are a little more inboard and lines suggest the arch extension.
The fiat lamps require a gap to their outer the mounting bracket is there.
Chris shares my vision and just as soon as I make it to the head of the queue im sure progress will be swift.
thanks for the info DSG
Not so sure about the shape from this angle
The line on top of the wings remind me of when you see someone who has ironed his denim jeans
It seems to have lost some of its curves from the render.
But even the Puritalia evolved from its original sketch
Im sure my sketch will evolve when Chris breathes life into it.
But I don't think we will see squared off shapes, Tributes are full of curves
no all original
you will see it because you know what it is but most wont
look at the other tributes you don't see the z3 when you look at swb 250 convertible
Originally Posted by Danny_HUFC View Post
Are you planning on using anything with the z3 doors or the small window to the piller?
I really like the sound of this 'modern' car you have in concept but I really think its going to be spoiled by using a z3
Sorry Danny your right of course the swb does have door skins.
Your previous comment led me to believe it was the quarter lights you were questioning.
You made a great job on reshaping the corners of the doors and I know you shaved the door handles. But because we all know its a Z3 I still see Z3 doors and that's my point.
We build Tributes because they are good value and they go together quickly.
We can buy Cobra replicas or bespoke kits with new chassis and build times in years not days with the dreaded SVA at the end but we choose not to.
For me your Kobra with unmodified doors would still look amazing with 99% of all viewing none the wiser.
