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How loud are they

4 Aug 2016, 5:19pm
I find my 2.8 Z300s a little on the quiet side, standard exhaust system still on, so I was wondering how loud are they with the rear box removed. Thinking of just having a straight exhaust out the back. I've seen WCA's and Ian's but not actually heard them. Just wondering if you go on a long drive by the end of it are you thinking 'could do with being a bit quieter'.
So opinions from anybody who's removed the rear box would be gratefully received.

Cheers Andy
4 Aug 2016, 6:14pm
On my MX I had an exhaust built which took out the mid box and I have a decat pipe which helps makes it sound pretty good. Not sure if you can do the same with a Z3.
4 Aug 2016, 7:02pm
My Z300S has a large bore stainless steel pipe from the rear of the centre silencer to the wheel arch. I've found it a little wearing in traffic but great on a long run.



For commuting I fit a baffle (4 perforated plates) which does affect performance but makes it more liveable with. Flooring the throttle produces a hiss like a leaking exhaust. There is still a lovely crackle on the overrun however. I usually remove the baffle for shows... I've not used the stereo since I fitted that pipe.
4 Aug 2016, 8:35pm
Have a look on the Kebab thread if you like. It runs a rear silencer suitable to give it a bit more bark than standard but fine for distance travelling. There's a remote cut out for when I want to play…sounds lovely. A big grin every time I rev it and on the overrun.

Bob.
5 Aug 2016, 8:49am
Morning Andy just before i had my current exhaust system fitted , the company that built and fitted it tried the car with the large rear box removed , it is very loud i would be surprised if livable with over a long distance . I opted for a pair of silencers with twin pipes out of each , sound good on acceleration and on overrun , but usable day to day , so far longest drive in one day was 360M , thanks Geoff .

5 Aug 2016, 9:40am
When not under load the engine is relatively quiet so quite easy to live with having said that...


...on the drive to the Le Mans Classic I was in fast convoy with a Ferrari 612, Aston Martin Vantage, Maserati Granturismo and Jaguar XKS, I didn't know the guys and just tagged along. We were making good progress with lots of sillyness like driving alongside the car in front and then full throttle acceleration away and every tunnel sounded glorious.

We stopped for petrol and they were very curious about my car as they couldn't work our what it was or what engine was in it. For quality of sound in the drive-bys and the tunnels they put it ahead of the Jaguar and on a par with the Aston which I founds flattering.

When I told them it was just a 2.8 BMW through an autobox they were genuinely surprised as two had decided it was a 4.0 V8 from a TVR and the other two weren't sure because it wasn't bass enough for a V8 but they couldn't think of any large capacity sixes that were right.

I regularly drive Southampton to Stevenage and back in a day. No stereo in the car and very rare to have the roof up. Motorway speed cruising the noise is just a background hum mostly drowned out by the tyre noise from other cars.

I will try to find a photo of it. A very neat installation with a 1:2 box squeezed behind the cat and in front of the diff allowing to pipes to flow unrestricted out to the back of the car. Similar to above but without the need for the two silencers.
5 Aug 2016, 9:44am
This shows the two (rusty) pipes from the engine going to the Cat. There is a single pipe about 6 inches long between the Cat and the new shiny silencer. Coming out of the customer made short silencer are two 2" pipes that are nice and symmetrical and unobstructed to the back of the car where there are some 3" upturned tips




5 Aug 2016, 6:10pm
Thanks for the replies, looks as if some type of rear box is needed

Cheers Andy
6 Aug 2016, 6:56am
Probably best, but just a small one.

My middle photo shows the size for mine and that is fine
6 Aug 2016, 4:08pm
I'm not sure if it's legal in your country but there are mufflers which have built in electronic diverter valve which passes the exhaust gas through an un-baffled section in the muffler, effectively making it a straight pipe with the flip of a switch. This is a much cleaner install than having two separate pipes.

http://www.xforce.com.au/products/varex-mufflers
6 Aug 2016, 8:13pm
275NART wrote:
... there are mufflers which have built in electronic diverter valve which passes the exhaust gas through an un-baffled section...

This is exactly what Bob/Hurnleft did on his SWB 250. :cool:

Archived forum photo
6 Aug 2016, 8:17pm
You can do the same but route the 'special pipe' inside the silencer. Same effect but neater
20 Aug 2016, 6:00pm
Well I cut the rear box off and had bought a silencer (cherry bomb) to fit but thought I'd see what it sounded like first. Sounds nice, not to loud at all, at 40mph hardly noticeable, however open it up sounds just like an old Jag or Healey 3000, very nice. Only drove a short distance to try out will take it for a long drive tomorrow to see what it's like in a variety of conditions.

Andy