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Sammio Chevaux in France

1 Jun 2013, 9:36am
Hello,

My name is sebastien, I'm 37 years old, maried and 2 childs (3.5 and 5 years old). I live in France near Lyon. One of my hobby is the collection of old cars, (I've got 10 olds cars, principaly citroen 30's and french cars in the middle of 50's).

Very sorry for my bad level in English, I will try to write in this forum the better than I can.


So, I've discovered the SAMMIO range one year ago and I fond of quickly for the sammio chevaux kit witch use a citroen 2cv donor.

I decided to built a sammio chevaux and I 've got a lot of chance when i find In France a sammio chevaux Kit in the end of december 2012. Few weeks later I bought a 2cv donor in very bad condition but almostly complete.

The pictures now !

Just arrived at home :


back :


Front :


a last one with me :



the donor car : one 2cv6 club 1986 in bad condition :




Let's go now !



2H00 later, the donor is like that:



My new wheels : BURTON weels.




My brand new motor (old new stock citroen)


1 Jun 2013, 9:42am
Also a brand new old stock bought 15 years ago with my motor :







New paint :



And during this time :


One first test :

1 Jun 2013, 9:48am
Wow, and a warm welcome to you Sebastian.

It's about time we saw a Chevaux/Pilot CV build on this forum. Looks like you have a cracking donor. I will be following your build with great interest :biggrin:
1 Jun 2013, 9:50am
My new shock absorber (strong ones) :






Take off the steering of the donnor car :


When I told you than the donnor car was in bad condition, pictures of the end of the dismantle !




1 Jun 2013, 10:02am
Lot ok thancks Handy !

Others pictures, I've done all the work myself indeed !


20/02/13 :

I've restored the front axle along the week during the food time during 30-40 minutes each day :




Good work of the week. I love the work witch keep the hands clean !:



:




The back of my chassis is brand new now, let's go to do the same work for the front part :


Departure of all the parts unused for the SAMMIO



Take off the original donor's motor :




the end of the donor car :


1 Jun 2013, 10:12am
New parts for my SAMMIO :




11/03/13 :
steering totaly restored before and after :



My chassis have changed, principaly in the front part :





Et on serre le tout, reste à rabattre les tôle frein sur les tête de vis tête H:





And a the end of the week-end :

1 Jun 2013, 10:24am
19/03/13

The end of the donor's life :


my work on my chassis : all is restored or brand new !







My son wanted to drive the SAMMIO :


The difference of angle between the old and the new steering :


A new test of the metal kit on my chassis :





If you like the TV show "Monster Garage"



I Started the restoration of the gear and all the components around the motor !

1 Jun 2013, 10:28am
07/04/13

The SAMMIO is running but without motor !





and a last picture with me !
1 Jun 2013, 10:35am
09/04/13

Now it's time to work on the bodyshell in stock !

You will see that the our garden have a appreciate "birtish touch" also. In fact, I can say that my Sammio isn't very far from britain with a red kiosk K6 also in restoration !!

1 Jun 2013, 11:07am
Very impressive, and very quick! keep up the good work.
1 Jun 2013, 11:23am
Many thanks for taking the time to document your build Sebastien. We've sent a few of this kit over to France, Belgium and more recently Norway under its new name of Ribble Pilot CV but have not had the opportunity to see one 'in build'. Please be sure to let us know any problems you encounter on the way so we can react with any changes the frame or shell need at this end.
1 Jun 2013, 12:20pm
AndyP57 wrote:
Many thanks for taking the time to document your build Sebastien. We've sent a few of this kit over to France, Belgium and more recently Norway under its new name of Ribble Pilot CV but have not had the opportunity to see one 'in build'. Please be sure to let us know any problems you encounter on the way so we can react with any changes the frame or shell need at this end.


Thanks a lot ! I know that a french has order the same kit few month ago and I'm in contact with the belgian person, owner of the sammio chevaux prototype. I would be interested to know all the owner of this Kit in France if is it possible.


09/04/13

I've installed my new shock absorber on my chassis :


The gera box completly restored :


My motor completly restored but based on a motor provide of news old stock citroen :




New accessories (dad's gift)
and old "CITROEN" Badge and rear-view miror for the dash board :
1 Jun 2013, 12:25pm
14/04/13

My motor is completly finish, ready to fix in the chassis






and a lot of parts, completly rebuilt also :
1 Jun 2013, 12:37pm
17/04/13

I try to pu the bodishell on the chassis. The chassis was a little too long : solution : cut the end of the chassis.


My son wanted to help me, it's ok Quentin ?



Andy, you have to modified the rear of the metal kit because the horizontal bar behind the seats is too closer from the dash-board for 7-8cm. It's easy to replace at his good position but this is the only mistake oh the kit. You will see in the beginning pictures that the horizontal bar is in front of the bodyshell near the seat. Normaly this bar schould be Under the bodyshell and not in front. Sorry for the bad explication, my engligh level is not very hight.:wave:
1 Jun 2013, 12:43pm
The bodyshell is in place on the chassis. I haven't modified yet the metal kit a th e rear part. It will be done this month.

For the fun, I've installed the complete bodyshell to have an idea of the result and to take pictures.








In 3 words : I am happy !:icon_cool:
1 Jun 2013, 12:49pm
05/05/13
Put my engine and gear box in the chassis :










Not very easy because it's heavy !





1 Jun 2013, 1:01pm
30/05/13

A new picture of my SAMMIO with his motor !


My new steering weel in wood and aluminium : Im' fond of this kind of part !


I've done somme steal plate to create the motor's partition (they are not fixed, only put down for the picture:





Many thanks for all the members of this forum, I follow all the post and I'm happy to find solutions and advices ! Lot a thanks at all !:icon_cool:
1 Jun 2013, 2:33pm
Hi, What a fantastic job you are doing with some lovely pictures. This is a very interesting build, as this is the first we have seen using the Citroen donor.
Your English is very good, much better than my French!
1 Jun 2013, 3:22pm
Excellent work, looking for ward to more updates... Magnifique! is that right?
1 Jun 2013, 5:11pm
Really, really nice! I've been aching to see a Citroen based build for a long time and it looks like you are doing a superb job. While it is obviously different to the Triumph base vehicle i do love some of the Citroen engineering solutions, especially the suspension!

I know from experience that you son will love going in it. mine did in mine :)

Best of luck with the rest of the build.

Dave
1 Jun 2013, 5:57pm
Sebastien, salut et bienvenue!

Excellent work so far, I like your use of a new chassis and motor - the donor chassis appeared to have turned to dust.

I too am a huge fan of the tin snail, your car will have a much more supple ride than the Triumph based cars which will probably mean it's going to be faster on bumpy roads as you won't have to slow down to stay on the road.

Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build, have you decided on a colour yet?

à bientôt!
1 Jun 2013, 9:32pm
Zebre69 - Welcome to the forum Sebastien.

Great build diary so far, you clearly know what you are doing. :cool:

Bon Chance, Paul. :)
3 Jun 2013, 5:50am
Thanks a lot ! :roll:

New pictures of my SAMMIO during this WE. The bodyshell is not fixed yet, only put on for an easier stockage.


To have an idea of the difference of size between my SAMMIO CHEVAUX (PILOT CV) and my old Citroen 2cv 1960, I v' take some pictures.








My new BURTON weels :


For the rear lamps witch position do you prefer ?




To answer you Mister Towed, my car will be red indeed ! :-)
I will put tripod lamps for the front like you. The car will be a little like that (I've modified your picture) :


For the seats, what do you think about INTATRIM (Apolo model or Gemini model) ?
http://www.intatrimtelford.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
I v'e got in my SAMMIO CV only 48cm for the hight dimension? Is it possible to order a sat lower than their models ?
3 Jun 2013, 3:06pm
Hi again Sebastien.

I also loved the look of the Intatrim Apollo seats, but the dimensions on their web site would make them too tall for a Sammio fitment without sticking out of the top of the cockpit.

I've used a pair of these from Dax and had them upholstered locally -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dax-AC-Cobra-427-Fibreglass-Seat-Shell-/130625517895?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e69e33947



Dimension 'A', a line drawn from the floor vertically to the highest point of the seat is only 440mm, so you could either bolt them straight onto the floor or use locking runners so they can be adjusted, but still fit within the body tub.

Oh, and it might be worth contacting the seller as I got a pair of shells for just over £100 delivered.

To my mind your tail lights look better closer together :)

Anyway, keep up the good work and keep those pictures coming. :icon_mrgreen:
4 Jun 2013, 6:00am
Thanks for the link !

I don't understand the seat's mesures : they say "..."The seat measures 430w x 500d x 500h..."

Could you confirm the mesures with this drawing please ?


A =
B =
D =