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Handbrake cables

18 Nov 2010, 11:58pm
What are your thoughts on shortening the BMW handbrake cables. I've seen a few ideas on the various build sites and wondered if a consensus has formed about the best way to do it.

I'm guessing that there can be a fair bit of force when the handbrake is used in ernest so there needs to be a good secure fixing to the lever after shortening. How have the various methods used held up in practice. Any thoughts appreciated.

Many thanks

Nigel
19 Nov 2010, 8:46am
NigelB wrote:
What are your thoughts on shortening the BMW handbrake cables. I've seen a few ideas on the various build sites and wondered if a consensus has formed about the best way to do it.

I'm guessing that there can be a fair bit of force when the handbrake is used in ernest so there needs to be a good secure fixing to the lever after shortening. How have the various methods used held up in practice. Any thoughts appreciated.

Many thanks

Nigel


I used a very sharp cold chisel to shorten them. I then made up some new ends from some steel rod. Drilled a hole up the middle and then silver soldered the cable in place. It is as good as the original one and is a lot simpler than it sounds. Drilling a 4mm hole up the center of a 6mm rod was the tricky bit but not impossible....

I previously tried crimping the new ends in place. Mission impossible (for me anyway)

I think Peter did the same.

Robin
19 Nov 2010, 8:47am
Hi Nigel
I used Patrick's solution but with 2 grub screws. Sorry this picture not great quality but you get the idea:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33105452@N05/5189332028/
I chopped the end off a suitable size bolt, drilled a hole down the middle and then drilled and tapped 2 holes for the grub screws. It took a couple of goes to get it right but it seems to have held so far.
Car still in Caerphilly - bypassing the immobiliser is taking my man longer than expected...
Tim
19 Nov 2010, 10:15am
For some reason, mine didn't need shortnening.

Don't ask me why... The chassis isn't any longer than other sportsters, the hand brake is in the same place as everyone elses.

After installing on the arms and running the cables through the Y tube / guide thingy, I passed the threaded end of the cable trough the eyes on the brake leaver and screwed on a couple of nuts on each cable.

IIRC, I may have chopped a little off the threaded portion to ensure it didn't poke through the gaiter, but I didn't have to shorten the cables them self.
19 Nov 2010, 10:51pm
Hi Nigel,
I bought new cables from GSF. I shortened them by following the instructions in the Marlin build manual.
Like Robin, I used a cold chisel and the BFH but do mind where you point it!

Mine are shortened at the brake shoe end and I've not had any problems.


Rear wheel hub and brakes by marlinpeter, on Flickr


...peter
20 Nov 2010, 11:48am
Thanks for all the suggestions.

I've taken Tim's approach. I invested in a pillar drill from Lidl...... (Yes, Lidl)....... a few months back. They opened a new store locally and one of there opening offers was a silly price on a pretty good quality piece of kit.

So it's now been christened for real. I used a 100mm M6 bolt, cut the head off, drilled a 3mm hole down the middle of it, drilled and tapped a couple of holes for M3 grub screws, extended the thread on the bolt to about 75mm and have trial fitted it. So far so good. let's see what it's like when I apply some tension.................. :doubt:

Fingers crossed.

Nigel
21 Nov 2010, 12:13pm
I used a bolt with two grub screws and some epoxy, however the wires pulled out after a year resulting in an mot fail. Have since ground a half circle into the bolt and welded the wire into the bolt, now it's not coming out again!
22 Nov 2010, 2:01pm
Not tried this yet but am about to.
I need to shorten a handbrake cable and am about to contact [url]www.southernrigging.co.uk[/url] who are only a few hundred yards from my office.

I am pretty certain that with their sailing and architectural connections they must have a good method.
22 Nov 2010, 5:20pm
As a (sometimes) sailor as well as a kit car builder I can say that's a pretty good idea - you are lucky being so close to a rigger! They should have a proper machine which can put on a swaged end - very similar to what the OEM would have done.

Robin
24 Nov 2010, 9:47pm
Interesting visit to Southern rigging. They do not stock parts that match my MGF/Rover 800 cables but they have options that would be a good alternative.
Biggest drawback is that all their parts are stainless steel and in combination with a standard handbrake cable could be a site for corrosion.
If some 'raw' standard steel parts can be sourced then this problem could be overcome.
25 Nov 2010, 12:40am
Steve

Try Speedycables in wales. They arecheap, good and quick.
Mike
8 Dec 2010, 11:47am
I have done the method of making a new nipple from brass, and filing it with solder to shorten VAG handbrake cables for a 5EXi, works really well.

Handbrake

Steve