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driveshafts

5 Aug 2007, 10:01am
How do you fit them ? I presume they just push in to the engine then held on by a nut a the wheel end ?

I am looking at the photo in the gallery called Turbo engine madness ( great picture I have used it so much) and notice the right hand side of the drive shaft seems to go further into the engine than mine by approx 1 inch. Does it need a bit of help with a hammer or is there something else I should be doing.


Many thanks

Nick
5 Aug 2007, 6:59pm
Hi Nick.

That was the rear of mine in that photo.

You need to get the slines lined up then a gentle tap with a club hammer and a piece of wood should see it go home.

Please bear in mind though there are two different gear box oil seals that go with driveshafts. Did the gear box and driveshafts come from the same donor?

Also a bit of a heads up. These drive shafts for all turbo builders have been a right pain. Marlin have changed there engine and gearbox mount for a start. Can you take a picture and post yours?

There is also a stabiliser bar from the gearbox to the chassis. Marlin fitted this for me as there was a bracket that needed weilded to the chassis.

Also once that's sorted, it's the driveshafts thereselves. I used a 420 diesel short drive shaft. The long one is from a 800 turbo. With the outer CV joint from a 200.
5 Aug 2007, 8:52pm
Thanks as you say it just needed a bit of persuasion, now installed.

Very clean looking engine by the way.

I did not buy a donor indstead Marlin supplied me with all the parts (well almost !) that I would need to complete the car. The engine was out of the turbo demo as were the drive shafts so seem to be the right size.

I did get two stabiliser bars in my kit, one from gearbox to the chassis, the another from higher up on the engine to the side of the chassis.

thanks again foir the quick reply

Nick
6 Aug 2007, 6:35am
EXI Turbo wrote:
the another from higher up on the engine to the side of the chassis.

Nick


There should be one on the bottom of the engine near the oil filter going to the chassis.

Any questions give us a shout.
29 Nov 2008, 5:13pm
limpabit wrote:

Also once that's sorted, it's the driveshafts thereselves. I used a 420 diesel short drive shaft. The long one is from a 800 turbo. With the outer CV joint from a 200.


Yo,
Sorry to go back over oldgrounds but the search facility on this forum doesn't work and I need to buy driveshafts now...

Mr Limpabit, does the combination above still stand (short from 400diesel and long from 800t) or have you changed your driveshafts since posting this? I remember when I first signed up to the forum you said I needed the diesel driveshafts. if this is the case, from which series/engine size Rover should I source these from?

Thanks again
29 Nov 2008, 6:18pm
Spike

It is also dependant on which engine you are useing, I have the 16K with the R65 box and the standard Rover drive shafts are fine.
29 Nov 2008, 6:40pm
Tiz the 2.0ti
29 Nov 2008, 6:58pm
Tiz the 2.0ti
29 Nov 2008, 7:10pm
Tiz the 2.0ti
30 Nov 2008, 8:45am
Righto.

There was a couple things that corrected the driveshaft issue. First being the engine mounts. Is you engine and gearbox mounting on the chassis the same as mine?

Old Engine mount on chassis. And you need to brace this mount to the suspension leg or something, to stop engine movement under load.


Gearbox mount on chassis.


If so, you will need the revised mounts from Marlin. I will confirm that the mounts in these pictures are the revised ones.

The engine and gearbox actually sits off line:


Talking of engine/gearbox bits, this was supplied to mount between gearbox and rear lower chassis member:


When car was stripped, this was bent like a banana. Possibly due to engine not being braced at the front, I don't know.

As for driveshafts. I'm about 95% certain that these were 420 diesel driveshafts after the 800 long one were too long. But I would ask them to measure them. The long one, I ended up going to the scrap yard where there were a lot of driveshafts sitting there. And went measuring!

Mine are/were:icon_mrgreen: :
Short = 567mm
Long = 973mm.
31 Dec 2008, 3:13pm
Ok no Rover 400 diesels in the local breakers yards so I've messaged a few people on eBay... no reply as yet. Would you be selling your shafts now you've decided to change engines John?

Cheers
31 Dec 2008, 3:57pm
Hi Mr Spike.

I'll have a word with Ian (Merlinman). He's tossing up whether to do up my Rover engine and use the driveshafts. But has his reservations about the Rover turbo engine conpared to the D16 engine.

I will ask him though.

Have you got the updated engine mounts from Marlin? This make a difference as it changes the angle of the engine/driveshafts.
10 Jan 2009, 6:22pm
These are the engine mounts and stabiliser supplied.



Note the stabiliser was straight when I first install it!