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Ericholm 250 SWB Build thread

15 Sep 2015, 12:40pm
mobilerobbie wrote:
if it works I would like 4 sets, depending price


How many sets would you like if they don't work?
15 Sep 2015, 1:08pm
If they don't work then I assume they will be cheaper so probably want more of them...

:-)
20 Sep 2015, 5:13am
Eric - Can you talk us through what is required to get the door mechanism to work?

Do the mods required depend on your choice of door handle?

Overall, you do seem to be progressing very nicely. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)
20 Sep 2015, 5:52am
Paul L - for the door mods i am using a standard mini handle and it has a bullet type piece of plastic that pokes out when the handle button is pressed. This hits the 41mm x 35mm 'strike' plate that you see I have bolted on to the door working on the pictures in my previous post.

As you can see I had to open up the hole a little bigger to be able to get access to secure the strike plate, I did all this from the outside of the door without taking any of the interior trim off.

So the strike plate pushes inwards and opens the door.

The mini handle is attached to the new door skin that covers the outer part of the door and just bolts on like a veneer piece.

No idea about other door handles, as only using Mini ones, sorry.

I hope this all makes sense.

It's gonna be a nice day again today so will continue efforts, my todo list on this build in much smaller now and fits on one page in my note book. Yay!
20 Sep 2015, 6:30am
I would suggest you drill a large hole through the inners of the doors metal, opposite the small holes required to fit the doorhandel, this way you can bond on and screw the door into place prior to paint.
Then after paint you can screw the mini handle from the inside onto the door....
20 Sep 2015, 6:56am
mobilerobbie wrote:
I would suggest you drill a large hole through the inners of the doors metal, opposite the small holes required to fit the doorhandel, this way you can bond on and screw the door into place prior to paint.
Then after paint you can screw the mini handle from the inside onto the door....


Hi, yes that's a good point, however, I expect the door skin to be removed for prepping and painting, especially as the surface of the skin can be seen through the bottom of the window right, so this would be impossible to finish and spray in position?
20 Sep 2015, 7:03pm
Boot switch and Power/usb/cig lighted socket in boot

DSCN4768 by eric holm, on Flickr

Bump stops and Small bonnet fixing

DSCN4774 by eric holm, on Flickr

Sits at right height now

DSCN4777 by eric holm, on Flickr

Drivers door being fitted:

DSCN4779 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN4780 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN4781 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN4782 by eric holm, on Flickr

All fitted now, but terrible alignment, professional help is needed

DSCN7816 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7828 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7833 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7836 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7837 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7839 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7842 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7845 by eric holm, on Flickr

DSCN7847 by eric holm, on Flickr


cont...
20 Sep 2015, 7:36pm
WOW, Eric car looks great! Such a detailed build thread, awesome work.
20 Sep 2015, 7:55pm
Nice job Eric and great to see you galloping towards the finishing post. I like your choice of tyre size as they fill the wheel arches and give the right stance.
20 Sep 2015, 9:26pm
Brilliant job and very selfless of you to document it so thoroughly so others can follow.

Top man, great car!!
21 Sep 2015, 4:33pm
jones wrote:
WOW, Eric car looks great! Such a detailed build thread, awesome work.


Thanks!
21 Sep 2015, 4:35pm
y cymro wrote:
Nice job Eric and great to see you galloping towards the finishing post. I like your choice of tyre size as they fill the wheel arches and give the right stance.


Thanks but finishing post Is a fair distance away yet. It's going to be all about the detail for me.
21 Sep 2015, 4:37pm
smash wrote:
Brilliant job and very selfless of you to document it so thoroughly so others can follow.

Top man, great car!!


Thanks, I gained from shared knowledge, only right I should contribute.
21 Sep 2015, 6:38pm
HI

Great progress, enjoy driving it, don,t worry about getting it perfect yet or the project will stall

Re alignment

I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill

Attachment could not be found in the archived database.


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Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill
21 Sep 2015, 9:07pm
Plastic Porsche wrote:
HI

Great progress, enjoy driving it, don,t worry about getting it perfect yet or the project will stall

Re alignment

I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill

Attachment could not be found in the archived database.


WIN_20150921_193233.jpg


WIN_20150921_193238.JPG


Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill


Hi Bill,

Thanks for images, actually a bit of 'flap' on that section would help as I get problems when opening the door fully as it pushes on that bottom edge, I've adjusted the door skins so they are as far back as possible, actually they stick a little when opening the door on the back section. Also I have pulled the front section as far forward as possible and even shimed it, so have a huge gap between door and front section, you can literally drive a bus through and it still doesn't clear. Also moved front section spring latches as far back as possible to try and push front section far toward as possible.

Then there is the height of the door and the front section, both doors are considerably higher that the front section, but must be sitting right as the bottom of the doors have a good size gap that I would expect.

So not sure, other than giving to someone who can sort it for me.

Don't get me wrong it doesn't have to be perfect, but I like the word 'Reasonable'. Currently it's not reasonable. :sad:
23 Sep 2015, 11:17am
ericholm wrote:
Hi Bill,

Thanks for images, actually a bit of 'flap' on that section would help as I get problems when opening the door fully as it pushes on that bottom edge, I've adjusted the door skins so they are as far back as possible, actually they stick a little when opening the door on the back section. Also I have pulled the front section as far forward as possible and even shimed it, so have a huge gap between door and front section, you can literally drive a bus through and it still doesn't clear. Also moved front section spring latches as far back as possible to try and push front section far toward as possible.

Then there is the height of the door and the front section, both doors are considerably higher that the front section, but must be sitting right as the bottom of the doors have a good size gap that I would expect.

So not sure, other than giving to someone who can sort it for me.

Don't get me wrong it doesn't have to be perfect, but I like the word 'Reasonable'. Currently it's not reasonable. :sad:


The door issue is probably down to the fact that the door skin is quiet some way further out from the door pivot point so that its arc, when opening, is that much more exaggerated compared to the original door, not a huge amount but enough to have an issue on opening versus door shut lines.
I've no solution without seeing the car in the flesh, other than maybe taking a couple of mm off of the rear of the skin to even up the shut lines.

Just wondered how the other SWB builders, Chris and Richard have overcome this issue.

Wondering if it would be a better option going forward for Chris to alter the front clip so that the rear section finishes higher up the panel as per the Cobra, thus making it easier to open the door whilst at the same time getting rid of the variable shut lines along the bottom? Not exactly 'replica' changes I know and the front vent would need shortening. Just an idea.

I would seal and smooth over the rear sill to rear clip area as well which is in keeping with the original.

See below for a Photoshopped example.

23 Sep 2015, 1:17pm
Plastic Porsche wrote:
...I have used horse box catches at the bottom of the bonnet to pull the lower bonnet into line with the sill ... Less than £20.00 on flea bay and easy to fit, require L shaped brackets to be riveted to the sill


Can you post a link please.
23 Sep 2015, 2:23pm
the best way to make sure that your door does not rub against the bonnet is to weld a nut on the doorstop to prevent it from opening any further...
23 Sep 2015, 6:56pm
mobilerobbie wrote:
the best way to make sure that your door does not rub against the bonnet is to weld a nut on the doorstop to prevent it from opening any further...


Thanks, I'll consider that, although don't have welding equipment or any knowledge how to do that, but know a man who does :icon_smile:
24 Sep 2015, 7:15pm
Horse box latches are item number 271812698984 on eBay

Chrome compression latch
24 Sep 2015, 7:26pm
To lift the top of the rear front section and align it with the top of the door stick a couple of 8mm washers between the bonnet and hinge, once they are aligned the gap between the front clip and door can be narrowed and still allow the door to open
24 Sep 2015, 8:11pm
Plastic Porsche wrote:
Horse box latches are item number 271812698984 on eBay Chrome compression latch


Many thanks for that. I see that they are available with keys as well. I have Spitfire type latches on the flip front of my Sylva Fury. I had to use separate key locks to secure that. These compression latches with locks would have been ideal.