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Scimitar Based 1950's Style Race Car

24 Mar 2012, 6:54am
I have been on the train up and down to London a lot recently so have had plenty of time to look at pictures. i have spent some of the time comparing proportions to see how far forward and back the cockpits are.

The conclusion in the end is....


.... the G465 is absolutely bang on the money!

I have compared the proportions to about a dozen other period cars and the distance between the back of the car and the back of the cabin is within 5% of all the ones I most like. This probably explains why I like it so much every time I actually see it.

Conclusion : The photos don't do it justice.


Round the wheel arches and show the rear curve line and...



Gary - stop sitting around doing nothing and get the car painted and some proper pictures taken ;-)
24 Mar 2012, 7:58am
round is best
24 Mar 2012, 8:16am
I like the 'round' too. It looks like the Aston Martin Zagato that we had pics of on forum. garyh
24 Mar 2012, 8:20am
Round is best

I agree, I think round is best but don't tell my wife!!
Can see why WCA likes the car and the redo of the photo does look good. Think I will have to leave it there as it took me long enough to get where I am today (peniless!!!) don't think i should be looking at another car when the bank (wife) says I am close to my overdraught already,
All the best, looks nice, Simon
24 Mar 2012, 8:31am
I think the round looks better, certainly better than my earlier efforts at moving the cab back. It is also a lot less work for me. ;-)

The biggest improvement was achieved by simply emphasizing the rear curve which is already there but you can't see in the photo.
24 Mar 2012, 8:39am
WCA ...Are we seeing you today ?

If so , I better go to work !!

Chris from Romsey is popping in this morning to collect some dropped pans...
24 Mar 2012, 8:42am
Dropped pans

We regularly have dropped pans at our house, but thats another thing. Seriously though, do the pans help with regards additional choice for seats etc,
Simon
24 Mar 2012, 8:45am
Hi - won't make it down today - sorry.

Bank manager / wife looking over my shoulder right at the moment.
24 Mar 2012, 8:52am
The 1958 Rocker wrote:
We regularly have dropped pans at our house, but thats another thing. Seriously though, do the pans help with regards additional choice for seats etc,
Simon


Yes ...taller seats are an option and if you are 5'10'' or above , it stops the need to slouch in the car as the bodies aren't very deep...

I did initially work with making the bodies deeper on the first car ...but it looked wrong...so stuck at this height.

When I first started the project , I used the remains of an old Ford Special as a starting point - something to build on. I increased the body depth by about 4-5'' at that time , can you imagine just how shallow they must have been ? I reckon with the body on a Pop chassis , you would be able to see the drivers knees !!
24 Mar 2012, 8:57am
Dropped pans

Yes I've increased my body depth by 4-5" in the last few years and must agree it hasn't helped with my posture either. I do remember a friend had a Ford special years ago and that was like being a kid driving a pedal car that was too small for him. Looks the way to go, especially as I am five foot eleven (was taller but old age is creeping in) and my son is six one/two bless him.
24 Mar 2012, 9:00am
Going back to the G46 styling, I agree with the others - the round arches dramatically improve the looks imho.
24 Mar 2012, 9:03am
Heres what I started with ....the roof height gives a clue to how shallow the car was and when sat in , your head still touches the top !!

I still have the roof if anyone wants it.....You can see elements of Sammio in the body but we have changed every panel , repositioned cockpit , etc etc etc...3 months of my unpaid time to create the first bodies and then about 6 weeks of Mikes and my time to create the ones we offer now !!

24 Mar 2012, 9:06am
WorldClassAccident wrote:


Gary - stop sitting around doing nothing and get the car painted and some proper pictures taken ;-)


Sorry - will get right on it .....:biggrin1:

Maybe another firm order is whats needed to get me inspired ...........:biggrin1:
24 Mar 2012, 9:09am
You didn't have a hand in the design for the Multipla did you Gary ? :party:

No roof for me. As I'm 6'2" and my lad is 6'8" it would look so far out of proportion (In fact I'm not even sure he'd fit into the Spyder already.
24 Mar 2012, 9:10am
Firm order

Hi Gary, I'm on the case. Will pop down the local Spar shop and mass buy some lottery tickets. If I win, the mansion will go on hold until I have placed my order!! Seriously, if I did win agood bit, I would be looking at a minimum of three to four kits. Lots of ideas crashing round in my head at present.
24 Mar 2012, 9:12am
Multipla?

Hi Andy, yeah, I work for a Nissan/Renault dealer and if you saw some of the "concept" cars they come out with, I am sure Nicole, Papa and a few others have been on something illegal between advert shoots!!!
24 Mar 2012, 9:34am
lancelot link wrote:
Heres what I started with ....the roof height gives a clue to how shallow the car was and when sat in , your head still touches the top !!

I still have the roof if anyone wants it.....You can see elements of Sammio in the body but we have changed every panel , repositioned cockpit , etc etc etc...3 months of my unpaid time to create the first bodies and then about 6 weeks of Mikes and my time to create the ones we offer now !!



Erm, interesting styling. I can see now how a roof can seamlessly flow into the Spyder's rear wings...

:icon_confused: Are you sure you haven't just photoshopped the roof from a Consul Capri onto a Sammio bodyshell?
24 Mar 2012, 9:35am
Wages clear at the end of the month Gary. You are the top of the list.
24 Mar 2012, 11:36am
Mister Towed wrote:
Erm, interesting styling. I can see now how a roof can seamlessly flow into the Spyder's rear wings...

:icon_confused: Are you sure you haven't just photoshopped the roof from a Consul Capri onto a Sammio bodyshell?


UNFORTUNATELY NOT ....I think inspiration clearly came from late 50's /early 60's Ford though....1959 Lincoln , 105E Anglia , Consul Classic etc.

I agree I think the rounded arches may be the way to go....it will give the car a sleeker look.....we had our reasons for square and Mike thinks it still looks best but I am leaning towards rounded ala Spyder....

WCA - no worries , just teasing - when you're ready Mate ....I know exactly how budgeting works !
24 Mar 2012, 12:36pm
.I know exactly how budgeting works !

I wish I did...
24 Mar 2012, 1:38pm
Whats budgie'in? and will my bird mind, right back to the garage to find my new brake light switch.........
24 Mar 2012, 2:15pm
Budgeting

WCA, the only person that really understands budgeting is a woman. You you know one for you, two for me. No we cannot afford that this month, walking past in a dress that you've never seen before but dare not say anything in case you just forgot!!!

Gary's roof looks like a Ford 105E anglia with the mother of all air bags just gone off. Think the balance is nearly there? Mmmmm bit more photo shop work methinks.
25 Mar 2012, 7:48am
the roof is not the best, as for g46 round the way to go
25 Mar 2012, 9:29pm
Not great at pictures but here is the G46 with twin humps and a windscreen. Sort of what I am aiming at. Front side repeater with line leading to the exit vents should reduce the hieght



Will play tomorrow with the roof and possibly gullwing windows
26 Mar 2012, 8:01am
'gullwing doors'... is this just to have something different? The side detail light and vent, how are you doing it? painted, raised bit of filler or some metal work? garyh.