MadaboutKitcars

front end

Here are some photos of the front end works, not much to show for the hours and hours put in



We had trouble getting a good line both sides of the car when viewed from the rear. The passenger side had a nice line but the drivers side front wing stuck out terrible, there was no way we could get them equal so eventual we cut the bonnet in two and took out a 32 mm wide strip not centrally so the right hand side moved over bring in the wing line equal both sides to wheels chassis etc.



Red line shows the "cut & shut" more importantly the "Surrey Scoop" is nearing it's final shape



"Surrey Scoop" close up cut out hole in bonnet after having to cut new bonnet aperture in the front end after the "cut & shut". formed cardboard mould and taped with gaffer and made up fibreglass infill, needed a ply wood rib to add stiffness on the underside, mesh grill to go in the aperture.



Bonnet hinge detail are door hinges from europa spares that we could not make work on the doors (to much of a curved surface) but they work well for the bonnet hinge central pin made from threaded rod, hollow tube and a couple of spare D shaped bracket that came from LL fixed to ply back and to be fibre glassed in place.



This is the ply pate bolted to the suspension turret and then bonded to the bonnet very very strong. Cross strut moved forward to ply plate and will carry the top of the rad sloping back down to the chassis and oil cooler.



Head light pods are next to be re-profiled as later "E Types" as LL solution with perspex cover not really resolved, I note from HM car that the moulding is different and as AH car no cut outs at all, we think it would look good with exposed headlight with out the major issue of making a perspex cover work.

Not showing the back of the car yet but a hint to it's final form my be described as a "Bob tail"

Or the side of the car where we have just made the form for the recessed exhaust in the cill as per a "C Type"

Will update later in the week.

Love the Surrey scoop, I thought it would be concave. Narrowing the body, is it just the front? As I was wondering how you match it to the width of bulkhead?

Concave/convex



In the building trade we would call it "to falls and cross falls" the front half is concave as the bonnet line is and then it changes to convex to fall under the the bonnet line at the rear it's like a double compound curve.

further body mods

We have been making a fibreglass mould and casting new cill sections for the car this week. Running a V8 engine we have decided to run the exhausts external (not like a cobra) more like a "C" Type

So we made the mould out of section of old gutters picked up on site.



load of tape and wax sticky fingers and fibreglass to produce this cull section.



here is the cill section offer up against the car in the garage



being such a mild evening on Wednesday we decided to cut off the old cill and see if the planned cill section would work.



with some moulding fettling filler etc etc we think it will.

Can't hide it any longer and sorry LL but here is the revised rear end in it's early draft stages a "Bob tail"



and again



and again from the other side showing the ressed cill section which will be on both sides



and now for a radical shot of the back



I like to think we have enhanced the coke bottle flow over the front wing across the doors and over the rear arches and these next two photos show that that Gary's DNA lives.





The Bob tail is not going to be as abrupt as shown it is still going to have a rounded end but we have taken at least 150mm out of the rear length and swoop up the line from the back of the rear wheel arches to the rear cill so it doesn't look as bulky





back to the garage for another six months to make good on these idea and see if we can actual mould all these sections together, started with filler now so it could come together over the winter.

Waiting to see pics of the Gazdavies G46 have a good weekend to all at Exeter

Good to see WCA on four wheels again and good to see the doctors have a good prognoses for a minuet there I though you were going to have to fibreglass the old foot back!

two photos did not come out on the last post

Great to see you developing the theme and getting it just how you want. Real inspiration for the rest of us. Love the back end. I used to compete against a Cooper Bobtail at Gurston and always liked the look of it.

Suddenly a whole photo album... Brilliant to see all of your ideas.

Concept imagineering at work.

Looking forward to next instalment..

There is some really great work being done here.

I can't wait to see what the final car will look like when complete.

Good luck, Paul.



PS
My mantra for today is...

Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's garage.

Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's garage.

Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's garage.

Not sure how to tell you this, but if you look really closely, there's some thug in a hoody eyeing up your pride and joy with suspicious looking intent. Now, where's my taser...

I knew that front shot of the G46 reminded me of something

Yes my son & co builder Charlie, who had an energy spurt last week before going back to work this morning to sunny San Francisco!

spookey!

Even spookier!

Its all in the eyes, without the headlights it looks alive,
but once those black holes become shiny lenses the character just disappears.
So will it be 51/2" or 7" headlamps CT? No1 headlight do seem a little small, but are very pretty.

I just love the bob tail it give the rear end a real mean look.
Lots of great work with side exhaust moulding these G46's just let your imagination roam.

I just cant wait to see it in nemo orange!

HM

I think it will have to be 7"" headlights after seeing the Gaz Davies car think I might stay with headlight covers as well.

We love the "bob tail" apparently the storey goes that John Cooper said the bob tails gave them greater straight line stability. But the truth seems to be they cut the back off the cars so they could 2 No cars on the same transporter???????????????

Yep, they fulfil your wildest dreams whilst retaining lancelotslink's DNA

Not so sure about the nemo orange! after seeing Gaz's "in the pink" it has to be a dark colour (or maybe not)

G46 width

I have cut the Scimitar rear body of No6 to allow the G46 rear end to drop to the correct height for the existing wheel arches and exhausts.
I am using photos from WCA's build.
What I am not sure about is the amount to 'pull in' the sides.
Would any of the G46 builders or Gaz/Gary be able to run a tape measure between the two vertical inside edge of the door openings
shown below?



Given the depth of the metal cill is 100mm wide and 80mm deep.
I have the lower edge of the metal plate sitting on the old scimitar cill, 70mm from the old scimitar floor
(or 150mm from the top of the chasis to the top of the metal plate)
Does this seem correct?



I am considering a metal frame bulk head bolted through the chasis at the back of the rear seats,
the same as No1 on LL build thread, but leaving out the 2nd bulk head,
at the back of the wheel arches.
I can then increase the size of the boot opening and hinge it on the new metal bulk head frame.
What are your plans for the internal structure CT?

Hopefully I will get some time on the body this weekend and will add some photos to my build thread.

Love the rear end by the way

HM

Looking good :-)

HM

had difficultly getting onto forum for a week or so.

In answer to your question pulling the sides in alla spyder with straps and WCA's early photos, we did not, the front and back of the rear wheel arches lowers cills just fell into place, we did put a bracket at the rear and front of the arches on the rear and pushed them in slightly but the come nowhere near the old SE5 inner arches we are going to have to make them out.

I have fitted some 6J 15" wire wheels today and if any thing the arches front and rear may have to come out to cover the wheels

DAD, i see i'm gona have to come home and drag you into the 21st century !!! More Pictures please!!

I will get mum to post some tomorrow!

Photos for my son and other forum users I have managed to take the photos upload them to the PC, transfer them to photo-bucket and add them to this thread, no mean task!

I had a lot of work blending the old bulk head to meet the fixed bonnet and now bonded in door



I am now happy with the flowing line down the side of the car



The car needs to be lowered yet but has change as it is now on the wheels we intend to use, they are 15" wire wheel and I think they are 6J rims note the outer flange with 15 x 195 x 80 profile tyres on them





The filling and sanding are far from finished, but the right line is there especially the cill line and I have cut a huge amount of material away from there.

Charlie you will see the exhaust duct is shorter than previous shots, I made it shorter at the front which give a much better wing line.

I also obtained some bucket seats from e-bay for £75 for the pair, nice chap had then in a wicked 105E this shot shows then roughtly in place but they will sit about 50mm lower once I have chopped the frames around a little.





I know it doesn't look like a lot of progress but it does represent a huge amount of thinking, standing back and looking, tea drinking and sleeping on it time.!

I thought I would add that the wheel arches will have a final profiling once we have lowered the car

Looking good! Can't wait to see the finished product!

don't hold your breath!