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tlrtone's Miglia Speedster build...

2 Sep 2013, 7:05pm
The body arrived today...

Fits well, after cutting the slots for the rear outriggers and steering column. even the wheel arches seemed to line up.









but... my eagerness to get things done before the body arrived may have backfired a little as the battery access is now non-existent and the steering column needs to be about 50mm longer :twitch:

Anyway, I will have a go at some of these bits over the next few days, and hopefully if the weather stays dry at the weekend, I might get it all bonded on! :icon_mrgreen:
2 Sep 2013, 7:37pm
I am envious have you cut the front springs looking really good dave r:amen:
2 Sep 2013, 7:48pm
Wow, it's a beast already. I like how the wheel fill up the arches. Agresive nose. I like it.

Michiel
3 Sep 2013, 10:25am
rattler wrote:
I am envious have you cut the front springs looking really good dave r:amen:


yes, I cut the front springs down by 70mm and not lowered the rear at all yet. I might get the 25mm lowering block for the rear - that should be enough..

T
3 Sep 2013, 11:54am
I'm fond of the Miglia body, maybe for another project because I've to finish first my SAMMIO CHEVAUX !

Your built is very well done congratulations, don't hesitate to put pictures all over the construction witch help others builders !
3 Sep 2013, 12:20pm
"seemed to line up" i'm sorry, that confuses me! ;)
3 Sep 2013, 8:06pm
Springs

Tony. You say you cut the springs ... ? not got round to that on my Sammio build yet, but was thinking of getting early Spitfire ones ..... is there any particular advantage in just cutting ...must have to be pretty acurate ... intrigued. let me know
BTW ... phoned your brother this evening & will drop the hub puller back soon. Hope we can meet up for a beer.
Slarti
4 Sep 2013, 3:57pm
Glad it fits . no reason why not looking good .. Keep up the great work..:tea:
4 Sep 2013, 6:28pm
davecymru wrote:
"seemed to line up" i'm sorry, that confuses me! ;)

+1 :icon_wink:

Jokes aside, it really looks good. :cool:

Good luck with the rest of the build, Paul. :)
31 Oct 2013, 2:56pm
hi have been looking at your biuld very nice it is.....i was interested about your brake pedal and servo choice? bmw? how did you find it?is it a 3 series bm? would you mind if i used it????
thanks nice job ikon 246
clive
31 Oct 2013, 8:03pm
ikon246 wrote:
hi have been looking at your biuld very nice it is.....i was interested about your brake pedal and servo choice? bmw? how did you find it?is it a 3 series bm? would you mind if i used it????
thanks nice job ikon 246
clive


Clive, it was by chance really.
I ordered a catalogue from Car builder Solutions and then looked at their website. This is where I got the BMW E30 pedal idea from - this article to be exact: http://www.p4replica.co.uk/2012/10/cockpit-layout-23-october-2012.html

Takes a bit of fiddling, but it should give a modern feel to brakes as well as the added safety of dual circuit brake lines. I stress "should" as I have yet to start the engine and try it on the road, so I am hoping all should be okay. If anything the servo may be too big, in which case a Peugeot 207 fits I am told!

Copy away, that's what these forums are for! :amen:
31 Oct 2013, 8:39pm
thanks i will look in interest as to wether it works ?i like your build would i rite in thinking this is your secound one?i have built many cars but not one of theese,thanks for the link clive ikon 246
31 Oct 2013, 10:04pm
ikon246 wrote:
thanks i will look in interest as to wether it works ?i like your build would i rite in thinking this is your secound one?i have built many cars but not one of theese,thanks for the link clive ikon 246



I built a Sammio Spyder first time. http://www.mysammiospyder.co.uk

Now on a Miglia Speedster http://www.mymigliaspeedster.co.uk

I've definitely got the bug!
31 Oct 2013, 10:15pm
Hi Tony,

Looked at your website. Beautiful build!

Michiel :yo:
1 Nov 2013, 9:02am
christinedmc wrote:
Hi Tony,

Looked at your website. Beautiful build!

Michiel :yo:


Thanks Michiel, I have been following your thread too and your build is looking very smart too!

We all approach things slightly differently and that is what I enjoy about these cars - anything goes! :icon_cool:
1 Nov 2013, 9:38am
your build is coming together very well mushty. I am living not to far from you and would love to see the car sometime if possable
I have seen a few sammios going together as I was a regular visitor to our glorius founders shop before it went north and I have seen the germam mig going together but would really like to see another example .
as you said the great thing about these cars and how they were created is the versatilitty of the kit .
1 Nov 2013, 10:28am
hi tony
wow your a busy chap,would you be able to decide at this point which one of the builds you prefer? easy not easy ect,i know none of this ca be described as easy but you know what i mean, i have an idea to do the migia,but also have a sammio body...............yhoughts please
ikon242
1 Nov 2013, 11:08am
ikon246 wrote:
hi tony
wow your a busy chap,would you be able to decide at this point which one of the builds you prefer? easy not easy ect,i know none of this ca be described as easy but you know what i mean, i have an idea to do the migia,but also have a sammio body...............thoughts please
ikon242


the miglia far outstrips the original sammio for quality in all areas...layup,fit etc just by looking at the pics

as does the new ribble/pilot by the look of things

if yours is an original sammio read all the build threads for all the fun in obtaining a near symetrical body
1 Nov 2013, 11:20am
redratbike wrote:
the miglia far outstrips the original sammio for quality in all areas...layup,fit etc just by looking at the pics

as does the new ribble/pilot by the look of things

if yours is an original sammio read all the build threads for all the fun in obtaining a near symetrical body


I don't disagree with the raising of the quality with the latest packages from Miglia and Ribble.

I have an original Sammio body though, the quality of the moulding wasn't great, the shell isn't symmetrical, but it was great value for money, I thoroughly enjoyed building it, I love the way it drives and it looks like this -



It stops people in their tracks wherever I take it and nobody's ever said 'hang on, that shell's not symmetrical!' As Gary J once pointed out, you never look at both sides at the same time...

If you already have a Sammio shell, why not just build it? You won't regret it :)
1 Nov 2013, 11:29am
Mister Towed wrote:

If you already have a Sammio shell, why not just build it? You won't regret it :)


Couldn't agree more. I'm yet to see a prettier shape......for a car.
1 Nov 2013, 4:06pm
Shadow, pop by anytime - dave (the rattler) pops in and we have a chin wag over the kits and what we are doing and what we have bought. PM me for my address.

Regarding the Miglia vs Sammio debate, they are both the same really, but here are my initial thoughts - although I do like them both! Again - I can't comment on the Ribble because I haven't built one ------ yet :)

I like the Miglia one piece body rather than the flip front of the Sammio, as I think the longer front end makes it a little more classic in shape.

The Miglia pushes the bulkhead back and uses a fibreglass bulkhead so it makes it a little more challenging to build with gearstick extension and steering column extension, but again the cockpit being further back makes it a bit more sports car like.

Both cars (and the ribble obviously) have to go through the process of bonding the body on and using the Spitfire fuel tank - the Miglia puts the tank behind the rear axle giving you storage space behind the seats, whereas the original Sammio and now Ribble put the tank forwards with the option of a boot space. Either work well and to be honest these cars are more for fun and runs out rather than serious touring (unless you are that way inclined). You can be creative with side pockets (as I did in my Sammio) or build in storage in other areas if you want to.

The Sammio has no doors which means climbing over - but they are so low anyway that this is fun rather than a problem. the doors on the miglia are nice to have but aligning and sorting out hinges and locks is a challenge too.


The beauty of them all is that they are based on a car that is simple with plentiful spares and lots of opportunities to make them your own as you have seen. If you have the Sammio body, then use that. A lot of the issues with the body symmetry are not noticed once you have built the car - no one ever notices.

The second one is always easier and you learn what works and what doesn't, and for this one I am making subtle modifications such as electric radiator fans (blowing on a custom built radiator) and leaving out things like a stereo system - you can't hear anything anyway!

If I were you Ikon, I would build the Sammio to get the experience - sell it and build the next one to keep!
2 Nov 2013, 12:43pm
Well said that man. Agree with all of the above - both are pretty cars that will be a challenge/joy to build/own - it's really down to personal taste which one you build. I happen to prefer the flip open bonnet on the Sammio for better access to the engine, which I've already had to remove to get at the clutch, but I can see the attraction of not having to align it on the Miglia.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.
3 Nov 2013, 6:30pm
hi i have been following your build, quire a few good ideas you have..as for the landrover seats.i would guess u used the outer ones? would the centre ones be narrower?to male them narrower by the 20mm u surgested ?would they need to be retrimmed or do u have a plan? im off to meet with mike on tuesday to have a look see.
keep it up good job.
ikon246 clive
12 Dec 2013, 5:16am
Hi Tlrtone, have you positioned the bulkhead yet? when you do, i'd love to see some pics of where the bulkhead meets the front section of the floor, and how much clearance there is in the pedal section of the lower front floor, i'm wondering if the front section could be done flat, rather than a drop section. Looking forward to the next installment, hope all is well with you.

cheers from oz,

Tim
13 Feb 2014, 1:32pm
In the next few weeks I promise to get on and do some more on my car and post some pics.

No excuses now, I want to drive it in the hottest summer in history - well that is what they are predicting if the bloody rain stops long enough!


Nice to have our own forum BTW.