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New Cordite Build, with a twist....

26 Apr 2013, 4:05pm
Some very nice neat metal work.

Will the corners of the frames be 'rounded off' to avoid any potential of damage to the body when fitted, or would you 'pad it' with rubber or builders foam?
26 Apr 2013, 4:32pm
Thanks Nike. Where possible, the corners should be rounded off but there will inevitably be the odd place that some extra padding will be required. Looking forward to fine tuning it with the new Navigator body :biggrin:
26 Apr 2013, 4:58pm
Nice to see progress, when do you reckon the steel floors will be in Andy?
26 Apr 2013, 6:00pm
I'd like to get the front frame finished and at least a test fit of the shell and pedals to gauge the clearance of the front floors. Also looking at an idea of putting in a vertical flange at the outside edge to bond the body on to.
26 Apr 2013, 6:27pm
Looks like the internal framework is coming together nicely. :cool:
18 May 2013, 5:47pm
Thought i would just post an update.
Well things are a bit in limbo at the moment with my build as i have been temporarily seconded to team Ribble to help out with the new Navigator buck, the combination of having a mate who runs a body shop and some free time led to me getting very hands on. Im glad to say that the new buck is now done and im sure Andy will be publishing the details when he sees fit.
This obviously means that i have no body as the the one that has become the new buck was in fact supposed to be mine. It also means that i have no frame as work on that has stopped until the first new body is pulled from the new mould so that exact fit can be assured. Although no massive redimensioning has taken place the efforts put into making the body as symmetrical as time and budget would allow means that any current frame is unlikely to fit well.

Luckily i have the race car to play with so am currently getting the engine and box package together but that means a few custom ally machining jobs for the gearbox to bellhousing adapter and the custome dry sump setup im putting together.
Did have a good day today though as my man cave buddy Dave and i commissioned out new ( to us) mega huge blasting cabinet, doors at both ends and it will take two wheels side by side, the seller threw in a new bag of garnet blasting media as well so we practised by doing a wheel and the water pump housing off the Navigator. Also got round to painting the block of the Navigators engine which came back from the engine builders all in black and needed some brightening up, luckily another side project is my Grayson lathe rebuild for which i bought some blue grey machine enamel, guess what colour the block is now....

Thats all for now

Mac
18 May 2013, 6:31pm
Mac - AndyP57 showed me some photos of the body work that was done on his phone at Stoneleigh.

It will be good to see bigger photos and a full explanation when the time is right.

One this is clear though, and that is that you will have a much nicer car at the end of all this. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)
18 May 2013, 6:51pm
I really hope so Paul, 3 long days of white dust exiting every orrifice on my head must be worth something!
18 May 2013, 7:53pm
Well Mac, at least you will definitely be able to say you built the car yourself!!!
19 May 2013, 12:32am
froggyman wrote:
Well Mac, at least you will definitely be able to say you built the car yourself!!!


Paul has built his himself!! :mad2:
19 May 2013, 7:27am
AndyP85 - I think Froggyman is referring to building the kit's body shell itself, rather than "just" * putting the kit together.

Anyway, I'm meant to be somewhere else, so got to go, Paul. :)

* And we all know there is no "just" involved. :icon_wink:
19 May 2013, 8:05am
i dont think anyone who is building a Sammio is "just" putting the kit together!!!! hopefully the Ribble version should be somewhat simpler!
19 May 2013, 9:28am
Viatron wrote:
i dont think anyone who is building a Sammio is "just" putting the kit together!!!! hopefully the Ribble version should be somewhat simpler!


Simpler? Simpler? No no no.

OK, it might be nice if one or two things fitted a bit better, like the internal frame, but where's the challenge if any Tom Dick or Jeremy could bolt one together in a weekend?

The people building these 'kits' all have one thing in common - we understand that we've bought a low priced, basic package that we need to add value to with our imagination and mechanical skills. Good luck to those who want the car and can pay someone to build it for them, but the average customer will relish the process of building it more than they desire the finished article imho.

Mine's taken two years of tinkering to get it the way I want it and I wouldn't have it any other way. Improve quality by all means, but leave simpler to the Caterham crowd.

On the other hand, I suppose if you want to sell to a wider market you could make it simpler. Sniff.
19 May 2013, 9:54am
Viatron wrote:
i dont think anyone who is building a Sammio is "just" putting the kit together!!!! hopefully the Ribble version should be somewhat simpler!


Trust me it is (for the Navigator and the new frame for the Pilot should make things easier) Mr T :biggrin:
19 May 2013, 11:25am
With you all the way T. Simpler isn't really the right description of what we want to do with the kits. More a process of getting it 'right' so when you receive a frame, there's a good chance of it fitting. When you get a body shell, there is an acceptable level of symmetry and the options such as doors (once designed) shouldn't present a year of head scratching.

Sure, there will be work to do and we're aiming fair and squarely at the budget end of the market but you should end up working with the kit and not fighting it. 'Phoenix', our first Navigator demonstrator, is being built from the kit as it will be supplied so we can have the experience of building it as a customer would and, if necessary, tweaking the design so subsequent kits will have problems removed. We are lucky in having a guy like Mac (Viatron) as the first customer of the new kit who understands this process and is actively helping us get it right.
19 May 2013, 11:52am
Towed, notice i also said "somewhat simpler" not simple! by the nature of what it is it will always be a more involved proces than assembling a seven alike from a kit for example.
22 May 2013, 7:00am
Well was booked to be in Sunderland on Monday but customer called at 07:00 as i was ab
Out to set off to tell me that they had no power so a free Day and as the cancellation was less than 24 hours i was being paid as well! What do do with my time......
Since finishing work on the Navigator buck one glaring issue has annoyed me so i took
My life and a cutting disc in my hand and got stuck in.
22 May 2013, 7:22am
Which glaring issue would that be then?
22 May 2013, 7:36am
Dont lnow if it exists on previous cordites or whether its just as a result of the state of the moulds or the modifications done to the moulds but the Passenger rear quarter needed moving back a fair bit.
22 May 2013, 7:45am
Very neatly cut.
22 May 2013, 7:46am
And, as a result, which will soon be seen in full, pictorially, the end product is MUCH better than before with a good degree of symmetry, cockpit shape and finish. Can't wait to see the first shell out of the new mould :biggrin:
22 May 2013, 7:51am
Took some time taping the cut line to make the job as painless as possible, good job too as the cut was over 8 foot long!
22 May 2013, 6:50pm
At this rate I'm not sure I want to see how much work you put into getting the body "straight". :icon_wink:

I think I will just need to learn to live with a "wonky" body shell. :rolleyes:

Although at least when you document the changes I will know it is not my imagination that things don't line up.

Jokes aside, I am looking forward to seeing this finished. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)
25 May 2013, 8:43am
Just waiting to load the buck, its getting a final polish before loading




The different shades of red make for an interesting finish but being a buck it doesn't matter as long as its shiny
25 May 2013, 10:00pm
It is all looking very good.

I really like the deep lip that runs around the rear cockpit. :cool:

Keep up posted, Paul. :)