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G46 V8 Mk1

20 May 2012, 9:56pm
Charman.tech wrote:
I hope it has not morphed into a cobra Nike55


..well not yet, but beware..!

It is looking very interesting - will get a much better idea after the paint & trim & wheels pull it all together.
20 May 2012, 10:15pm
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right then got it cracked, harder than building the car, this is a shot of the front quarter from the drivers side.

All the structural alteration made ply wood lots of glue screws and filler foam, I have two rea bulk heads one to stop the spare wheel coming forward and one that forms storage two lits for ever day stuff and also allows for the seat belt mounting to run thru.

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All the footwell ply and rear quarter ply panels are cut to fit and glue into place I now need to be glass them all into the body and two each other. This is my version of the Norfolk scoop or can I call it the Surrey Scoop or the inverted scoop, decided to cut it into the bonnet to that I get the line of the wing swooping over the doors with out the height of the bonnet centre let alone adding height in a scoop. I just hope I can glass this in to achieve the cardboard mock ups.

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I wanted to step back and get a distance shoot of the passenger side probably a little far back

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Showing how subtle the scoop is within the bonnet

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from the front closer detail, thinking about making the instrument binnacle a little larger

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From the rear quarter.

The great thing about the scimitar based G46 and I do not know if this is possible with the spyder is that as everything is bonded to the floor pan/bulkhead which allows me to simply hoist the body off once it is structural bonded and put it onto a table which will allow me to finished the engine, gear box drive chain etc etc and also start filling and preparing the body separately
20 May 2012, 10:24pm
Fiarrati Air Dam

For any of those who doubt the air dam is not going to be fixer to the G46 here it is being fixed to Madmarks Fiarrati, he has an odd mix of vehicles that's his[IMG][/IMG] RAM in the back ground which he uses to carry the Punto in!
20 May 2012, 10:36pm
Better shot of the passenger side

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21 May 2012, 6:13am
good job charman
It is hard for some to look at all the different colours and see the finished car especially when in silohuette it looks like the car you started with.

But that just means you've done the mods well :)

I cant wait to see it completed- what colour scheme?
21 May 2012, 6:43am
colour scheme

Roadster wrote:
good job charman
It is hard for some to look at all the different colours and see the finished car especially when in silohuette it looks like the car you started with.

But that just means you've done the mods well :)

I cant wait to see it completed- what colour scheme?


Colour Scheme

Let me see what time is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any of a short list of about ten, long way off that yet.
21 May 2012, 9:30am
Excellent photos give a much better indication of how the finished vehicle will look..

The inverted scoop is a very neat solution to the raised area of the bonnet that was giving me some doubts when reviewing the photos of Orca I took at Exeter and Poole...

Glad it looks nothing like a Cobra - something Maserati-ish going on though?

Looking forward to your next set of snaps!
21 May 2012, 10:33am
Have you had it re-registered yet?
21 May 2012, 11:25am
Looking good.

Could take larger wheels with those new arches.

Did you work out how to do the beaded lip on the arches?
21 May 2012, 11:47am
Nike55 wrote:
Excellent photos give a much better indication of how the finished vehicle will look..

The inverted scoop is a very neat solution to the raised area of the bonnet that was giving me some doubts when reviewing the photos of Orca I took at Exeter and Poole...

Glad it looks nothing like a Cobra - something Maserati-ish going on though?

Looking forward to your next set of snaps!


I wanted to be careful here and respect Gary's design with the central humping bonnet which is part of the Sammio ranges DNA. With the inverted scoop the hump line to the bulk head is respected, however I was not unhappy with the original bonnet line, it's just that I wanted he air scoop.
21 May 2012, 11:51am
garyh wrote:
Have you had it re-registered yet?


No not yet as the engine change has to be registered first (V6 to V8) and the DVLA have made that difficult, you simply cannot just change the log book details any more, you have to have proof of purchase and or installation receipts from a garage or RAC inspection report.

The other reason is that my engine and gear box are not permanently fixed yet and I will only being doing that after I have lifted the body off, the car is on a SORN
21 May 2012, 11:53am
WorldClassAccident wrote:
Looking good.

Could take larger wheels with those new arches.

Did you work out how to do the beaded lip on the arches?


Yes I am using 15" series 111 E type wheels which do fill the arches. I am going to try that fix put onto the forum last week 3mm or 4mm dia fibres glass rods etc etc
21 May 2012, 11:55am
I was just wondering how far you will go with build? i.e if like the Spyder, showing that the body secures on in the same way as a Herald... do you have to see bolts from the inside before glassing over?
21 May 2012, 12:49pm
garyh wrote:
I was just wondering how far you will go with build? i.e if like the Spyder, showing that the body secures on in the same way as a Herald... do you have to see bolts from the inside before glassing over?


As I said the beauty of this is that the whole of the floor pan/ bulkhead is retained and the G46 body fixed to it, so you never glass over the original fixing bolt holes.

When the new car is created it can be removed from the chassis as easily as the original Scimitar even in my case where I formed a new bulkhead as that in itself is fixed off the foundation of the floor pan.
21 May 2012, 3:40pm
..quite agree with regard to your wishing to respect the original design. I do feel your air scoop adds to the design in a sympathetic way.

As Gary admits without seeing a completed and painted G46 'in the flesh' it is difficult to appreciate how the design cues work together (something you don't always get with photos). It is not easy to quantify the style.

I originally thought the G46 seemed a bit 'brutish' (like a D type on steroids) but when I saw 'Orca' at Exeter and Poole it had an elegance to it, like a Ferrari.. it seems to change depending on the angle you look at it, so looking forward to seeing more photos..
23 Jul 2012, 1:30pm
Charman.tech wrote:
Yes I am using 15" series 111 E type wheels which do fill the arches. I am going to try that fix put onto the forum last week 3mm or 4mm dia fibres glass rods etc etc


How did the fix go, that i suggested? And what else has been done?:boink:
23 Jul 2012, 5:00pm
Long time no updates

garyh wrote:
How did the fix go, that i suggested? And what else has been done?:boink:


So Chairman, are you keeping your g46 V8 under wraps for the big unveiling in August?
HM
24 Jul 2012, 5:58pm
Update

Have not done any work on the car since my last posting. My son Charlie has been working away in States but returns at the end of the month so we will get cracking again until he goes back. We want to build the car together so I am conscious not to race ahead.

I have not been idol I have been working on a new classic touring car with Madmark we have purchase a 1965 Ford Falcon which we are preparing to turn into a FIA appendix "K" race car.

The G46 sits along side the Falcon, hopefully the Falcon hoes off to soda blasting in a week or so and the G46 will get back into pride of place in the work shop.

Should have built the garage much much longer for the Falcon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24 Jul 2012, 6:33pm
Didn't one of the 'Classic Car' mag reporters run a Ford Galaxy in a similar vein?

I believe they used to refer to it as the 'USS Enterprise', as per the aircraft carrier (not the starship), if so you really must invent an appellation for the 'Falcon' (but hopefully not the synonym 'Millenium') and it really must have it's own Blog.. :)
24 Jul 2012, 8:27pm
sounds good to me ...looks even better

24 Jul 2012, 9:20pm
And room to land a couple of F18's on the bonnet...
24 Jul 2012, 9:47pm
...and a brace of Osprey.
25 Jul 2012, 4:30pm
When you share a car, important to have two of one particular item!! Photo to follow.
25 Sep 2012, 8:17am
I'm ready to see what you've been upto, or is it a secret...
25 Sep 2012, 11:51am
Progress

garyh wrote:
I'm ready to see what you've been upto, or is it a secret...


As I said earlier we have been involved in the Falcon strip out, but have returned to the G46 now.

No secrets keen to share my experiences as more g46 builds are under-way.

A lot of work has been done but not much to show in the way of progress. I will get Charlie to take some photos at the weekend and more importantly upload then to my computer and to the forum and write an up date.