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Mister Towed's Tai Chi build

17 Aug 2013, 6:21pm
Just got back from a two hour drive in my Spyder, covering about ninety miles up to the coast at Hunstanton and back with a few detours in between.

It was blowing a gale and I got caught in a shower - I now fully understand the meaning of the term 'weather beaten', rain in the face really stings at 60mph - but the car performed faultlessly. :)

Plan for tomorrow is to fabricate some sort of camera mount and perhaps get some video sorted...
17 Aug 2013, 7:37pm
I ended up leaving a pair of flying goggles and a cap behind the passenger seat as my "wet weather gear" then you have to hunker down behind the wind deflector and jobs-a-good-un :). I ended up clearing this the hard way after getting caught in a hail storm on the way back from the bath and west!
18 Aug 2013, 6:15am
classic show at hunstanton to day towed ....
18 Aug 2013, 7:57am
phil9 wrote:
classic show at hunstanton to day towed ....


What time Phil?

I take it you and Barry are going, fancy a three car convoy? :icon_cool: :icon_cool: :icon_cool:
18 Aug 2013, 12:19pm
great too see you car looked fab ...sorry had to dash off ..
18 Aug 2013, 5:50pm
Always good to see you too Phil.

Show was really good, weather played its part of course, lovely and sunny all day.

My car drew quite a crowd despite being surrounded by some pretty impressive classics, spot the immaculate 190 SL in the background -





I was also asked to lead the classics out for a lap of the arena, a bit embarrassing given that it's a home built special and not the real thing, but fun nonetheless.





It was quite interesting to loiter nearby and listen to people talking about my Spyder. Just about everyone loved it. Just about everyone thought it was a restored original, and one old chap even explained at great length that his father had owned one in the late fifties, which made me smile.

Someone also commented that you could tell it was an original, unrestored fifties car because you can't fake the patina on the paint that only decades of use in the sun can create! I didn't have the heart to tell him I sprayed it in May this year.

Talking of patina, my vote for the most interesting vehicle of the day was this '59 Dodge -



The owner says it took 54 years to get the paint right. Nice.
19 Aug 2013, 8:39am
that's great..towed... i once had a guy tell me he had a pic of s /moss driving that car [my car] in a race in the 50's u have too smile .. shame u can not make stanford sunday .. but ha you going to a better place ..have a great time see you when back ..
19 Aug 2013, 3:22pm
phil9 wrote:
that's great..towed... i once had a guy tell me he had a pic of s /moss driving that car [my car] in a race in the 50's u have too smile .. shame u can not make stanford sunday .. but ha you going to a better place ..have a great time see you when back ..


Yep, off to Italy Friday :)

Shame I can't take the Spyder with me...

Just collected my car from Brockwell Brothers trimmers in King's Lynn, who've made to measure a tonneau cover for me today -







It's red mohair with white piping. Top quality materials and a craftsman finish you don't see very often these days, all for £144 all in. I can't recommend them highly enough.

Off to Southery tomorrow to have the racing roundels fitted :)
19 Aug 2013, 3:31pm
Perfect colour. Lovely work. Also off to Italy in 2 weeks... hopefully do some work on car beforehand!
19 Aug 2013, 6:59pm
Looks great, they done a nice tidy job. And a good price too.
20 Aug 2013, 4:11pm
Today, with the addition of the racing roundels I think I can now say my car is finally finished.

At the age of nineteen I fell in love with one of these -



and vowed that, one day, I'd build myself one.

But three decades a family and a mortgage later it dawned on me that I would probably never have the fifteen to twenty grand needed to build a decent example of a 718 RSK or 356 Speedster kicking around in my other trousers until I would be too old to get into it, so I almost gave up on that particular dream :(

But something in me kept making me put the word 'Spyder' into an ebay search, and before long, up popped Gary Janes' very pretty body shells at a price I could actually afford.

So, after a quick trip to a kit car show for a sit in '66, as much to make sure I'd fit in it as to check if I liked it, I bought one of these -



and with the help of one of Gary's bodies, set about turning it into something completely different -







It's taken four times as long as I thought it would - about two years and three months instead of the six months I envisaged - and it's cost me about double what I originally budgeted, owing me about five grand (plus my two thousand hours labour), but I'm over the moon with the finished result.

So, after 1,500 posts and 78,000 hits it's time for me to end this build thread and start a new one covering the driving, fiddling and fettling of it. Thanks to everyone who chipped in with advice and I look forward to seeing a lot more finished Spyders out on the road. Now, where's my crash helmet :madgrin:
20 Aug 2013, 4:22pm
Well it's been a wonderful thread to follow, and it's nice to see you're hanging around.
20 Aug 2013, 5:15pm
a top job ..one hell of a ride ...
20 Aug 2013, 5:35pm
Thanks for all that you shared in this thread. It's a big help for anyone of us still in de building process.
Michiel
20 Aug 2013, 7:21pm
top job and good read and lots of info happy days dave r
20 Aug 2013, 9:56pm
Mister Towed wrote:
... it's time for me to end this build thread ...

:icon_sad:

But obviously it is ending for all the right reasons.

I think you have ended up with one of the nicest Sammio's on the road. :cool:

And, without doubt, this has been my favourite build thread to read and draw inspiration from.

Enjoy driving the fruits of your labours.

Cheers, Paul. :)

PS
Does the number 602 represent anything?
21 Aug 2013, 7:58am
Paul L wrote:


PS
Does the number 602 represent anything?


Thanks for all the kind words guys, I've enjoyed the company and advice this forum has given me during the build process.

I know internet land can be a dodgy place, but I've even made real, physically tangible new friends that aren't just trying to access my bank details or remotely fek up my computer for the fun of it.

As for the number 602 and other markings, here's a picture of Alberto Ascari (A S) winning the 1954 Mille Miglia in a D24 -



Obviously, mine isn't an exact replica - it's not red for a start - but I rather like the association with the racing history and it's a move away from just about every Cobra owner who chooses the number '1' :frusty:

Good luck to everyone who's building one of these glorious creations, it might take a long time to finish (unless your name's Patoune!) but with even a basic level of diy mechanical competence you'll end up with a car that'll stop people in their tracks and get genuine praise from dedicated classic car people, even after you've told them it's a replica.

While I was taking pictures at the river bank yesterday a gentleman and his son came over from a house nearby and told me how much they loved my car. I explained that it was a home built special and they were gobsmacked. They then showed me their mineral blue Aston Martin DB4 parked in the drive that they've just spent 20 years restoring. And they asked if they could take pictures of my car! Praise indeed.

For any lurkers out there who're considering building a Sammio/Ribble/Miglia Spyder, the best advice I can give is to budget for a spend of about £5,000 and at least eighteen months build time, and if you spend less or build it quicker it's a bonus.

Buy the best donor you can find, I wish I'd spent around £2,000 on a sound, MOT'd Vitesse that didn't need a thousand hours and a lot of money spending on renovation, and you'll recoup a lot of that outlay by selling off the unwanted parts on ebay.

Above all, keep plugging away, don't give up and don't be afraid to make changes to individualise your car and have it your way.

Good luck!
21 Aug 2013, 10:48am
here here Towed "Bravo Ce' bella maccina".

Been great to have you as company during our builds (only another two years to go) or maybe three as my daughter is going to get married next summer, she would like the "Charmaratti" (formally a G46) as the wedding car but knows that's not going to happen.

Look forward to your thread on the tinkering and running
21 Aug 2013, 11:26am
Absolutely BRILLIANT towed !!
If my Spyder turns out even HALF as good as yours, I will be well pleased. That, sir, is a real show stopper of a car. I would certainly endorse your sentiment about buying a top notch donor. I bought a Herald with a current MOT and drove it for a couple of months before stripping down. So far not had to do ANY welding on the chassis.
If you are intersted, mate of mine has got a 356 up for sale. Used to rally it, got some provenance, plus some spares .... 30 grand o.n.o .....:cry:
Keep up the good work ... I look forward to your ne thread.
ATB
Slarti
21 Aug 2013, 7:52pm
Ascari 602

From one of my many car books I can expand on that a bit. The number 602 relates to Alberto's start time at Bresca (6.02 am). There's a pictire showing him about to pass a FIAT at a mountain pass with the number 2341 on the side (19 minutes to midnight .... over six hours earlier!)
His average speed over the 1000 miles was 87.3 mph.
Will your LOVELY Sammio do that Mr T :question:
Enjoy the drive
Slarti
22 Aug 2013, 7:10am
I think you inspired all of us with your thread , your photos and technical solutions lots of succes with your car.

Hope to see you on (sammio)occassion!
28 Aug 2013, 9:11am
Congratulations mister T, very good job. !

I 'm fond of the final look of your car and I use your posts all over the time to see how you have done when I'm in front of difficulties.

To be honest, If I have bought a sammio kit, it's a little your fault :party: !:tea:

I hope that my car will be nice also, I will try to do my best to built my car as your sammio spider !

Like you, I've bought today tripod lucas P700 for my car, I like the front look with these front lights !

If you come to France, I'll be happy to see you and to show you my car.

Take a lot of pleasure on the road now !


I wanted to know what you will do this winter, have you got another hide project ?
28 Aug 2013, 10:32am
VERY VERY WELL DONE TOWED....You have totally embraced the whole ethos of my original concept.

I have followed your build with interest , I may not be actively involved in the Sammio world anymore ....(sometimes this saddens me a little but a combination of many factors forced me to sell on my baby)....but I still have an extreme fondness for the original '' lets cobble up a new twist on a 50's Special '' that has grown into quite a little star and spawned a few similar products along the way .......

Your car and build thread should be given a 'sticky' status as I am sure as others have said , it has and will create other sales of these kits in the future...... I doubt if Ribble , Miglia , Tribute etc. would object to that....
28 Aug 2013, 1:46pm
lancelot link wrote:
VERY VERY WELL DONE TOWED....You have totally embraced the whole ethos of my original concept.

I have followed your build with interest , I may not be actively involved in the Sammio world anymore ....(sometimes this saddens me a little but a combination of many factors forced me to sell on my baby)....but I still have an extreme fondness for the original '' lets cobble up a new twist on a 50's Special '' that has grown into quite a little star and spawned a few similar products along the way .......

Your car and build thread should be given a 'sticky' status as I am sure as others have said , it has and will create other sales of these kits in the future...... I doubt if Ribble , Miglia , Tribute etc. would object to that....


very well said that man..