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Mister Towed's Tai Chi build

11 Jul 2013, 5:00pm
For once the Hayne's manual was accurate. It said to allow three hours to remove the engine and that's about what it took me.



With it on the purpose built engine stand, well, B&D workmate, it was a matter of minutes to get the old clutch out. The good news is that there's no oil contamination, the old friction plate was just wafer thin and smoother than a babies behind (new one on the left) -



New clutch assembly took only five minutes to fit but an inspection of the engine bay revealed that one of the engine mounts had completely disintegrated during the removal.

So, time to bite the bullet and order a selection of parts I was going to source in the winter, but will be much easier to fit with the engine out - in addition to new engine mounts I've ordered a pair of 150lb Spitfire front springs, a 7/8" anti roll bar with poly bushes and clamps to suit and a 7 tooth Spitfire steering rack for a slightly quicker feel (and because play in the steering rack was an advisory on the MOT).

I'm hoping that the combination of softer springs with a thicker anti roll bar will smooth out the ride at the front without sacrificing cornering agility, while the quicker Spitfire rack should make it feel sportier without making the steering too heavy.

That's the state of play at the moment, I'm back to work in the morning and it'll be next week before any of the parts arrive so my car will be sitting like a jet fighter on its take-off run until then -

11 Jul 2013, 11:46pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Does anyone know the maximum file size picture that can be uploaded to the Madabout Picture Gallery?

I'd like to add a few more finished Spyder pics to the Sammio album, but I don't seem to be able to get them to load.

From memory, I had to shrink the file size to upload the one I have managed to post, but I can't find the link to the advice I got about a year ago.


From memory I think we go on max picture size rather than file upload size. I believe it is a max of 4000 pixels wide at the moment.

John
12 Jul 2013, 8:42am
JG wrote:
From memory I think we go on max picture size rather than file upload size. I believe it is a max of 4000 pixels wide at the moment.

John


Thanks John, will try to add a few pics to the gallery.
12 Jul 2013, 9:08am
Just tried to post some pictures in the gallery - a couple seemed to go through, but a couple of others threw up a warning message telling me that the image description cannot be altered for submitted images. Will be interesting to see if any appear on the gallery.
12 Jul 2013, 7:12pm
Hi Towed

We only received one which I've approved. Image size was 2560 wide so no issues there. If you try again and get the same error could you do a screen grab and send it over to me please at john @ madabout etc. And I'll see what could be causing the issue you are having.

Cheers, John
12 Jul 2013, 7:38pm
JG wrote:
Hi Towed

We only received one which I've approved. Image size was 2560 wide so no issues there. If you try again and get the same error could you do a screen grab and send it over to me please at john @ madabout etc. And I'll see what could be causing the issue you are having.

Cheers, John


Hi John, not sure how to do the screen grab thing, but I've just tried to submit another picture and got this message -

Warning: getimagesize() [function.getimagesize]: Filename cannot be empty in /homepages/20/d137413215/htdocs/mk/kitcar/processUploadImage.php on line 11

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /homepages/20/d137413215/htdocs/mk/kitcar/processUploadImage.php:11) in /homepages/20/d137413215/htdocs/mk/kitcar/processUploadImage.php on line 34

I'll keep on trying...
12 Jul 2013, 10:07pm
Annoying about the clutch, but at least when it's done its done.
Good move on the 150lb springs. I softened up the front of my Herald based Burlington Arrow and it transformed the ride and the grip. It became agile and confident inspiring in the bends on B roads.
Hard springs are for track cars and boy racers......
13 Jul 2013, 8:35am
seanick wrote:

Hard springs are for track cars and boy racers......


Amen to that.

The road cars I've had with the best combination of grip, agility and seat of the pants feel: Fiat 128 - 3P Berlinetta; Peugeot 205 GT; and Ford Focus Zetec all had supple suspension that kept the tyres in contact with the road, while the ones that were all over the place and didn't involve you in the process: MG Maestro (What was I thinking?); Ford Escort XR3i; Mercedes A class all had rock hard suspension that gave me no confidence at all going into a twisty B road.

I like a car to soak up the bumps and be adjustable on the throttle without snapping into wild oversteer or ploughing straight on if you get it slightly wrong. I'll keep you posted on how the softer front springs and heavier anti roll bar pan out. :)
23 Jul 2013, 8:18pm
Whats happening T, update please...
24 Jul 2013, 7:43am
garyh wrote:
Whats happening T, update please...


Sorry for the delay Gary. Still waiting for a couple of essential upgrade parts to arrive (on back order) before putting the engine back in. Hoping to have it back on the road next week...
24 Jul 2013, 7:28pm
Come on my towed its not the same without you on the forum:wave:
25 Jul 2013, 8:39am
mikmiglia wrote:
Come on my towed its not the same without you on the forum:wave:


Going to attempt to put it back on the road today - clock's ticking though as I'm at work at 5pm. I've been waiting for a pair of blue poly bushes for my 7/8" anti roll bar, which are on back order from Canley's, but I'll just stick the original arb back in for the time being.

I was able to change the steering rack for a faster geared, reconditioned Spitfire one while the engine was out though (£35 from Canley's) as I got an mot advisory that there was some play in the original rack. The rack was much easier to get at with the motor out but access to the arb is straightforward with the engine in anyway.

Right, time to hit the man cave...
25 Jul 2013, 6:46pm
Get it done before the rains back and enjoy. Did you ever finish your injection idea, and if so did it make any odds to the performance.
26 Jul 2013, 9:20am
mikmiglia wrote:
Did you ever finish your injection idea, and if so did it make any odds to the performance.


Yes Mike, it's fully functional.

The system consists of: a nos 4 litre 'screen wash bottle meant for an mod truck (£10);

fitted with a low level float switch and warning lamp(£6);

the pump feeds a 70psi fish pond pump (£35) with a 50/50 mix of methanol and distilled water (80p/litre) through high pressure nylon tube (£30);

the pump is connected to a flow control solenoid (£12);

triggered by a micro switch attached to the throttle linkage (£1.99);

the solenoid feeds the mix to a pin hole fogger nozzle (£15);

mounted in the top of my home made aluminium air box (£15 including the K&N filter);

a tee piece (£1.99) mounted between the solenoid and nozzle leads to a second flow control solenoid (£12), which is triggered by the same micro switch to open as the first one closes when you lift off the throttle. This depressurises the nozzle line, stopping the spray from continuing on the overrun (which it does otherwise and would cause problems) and feeding the unused mixture back to the tank so it isn't wasted. Phew!

I can't give you any objective figures about whether it makes a difference to the power and torque yet, as the clutch started slipping with the car on the dyno.

The main benefit, though, is supposed to be raising the octane rating of the fuel so you can run higher compression and/or a more aggressive advance curve without suffering detonation (pinking), which can quickly destroy your engine. That's why it was developed for the Supermarine Spitfires operating on the Russian front - their fuel supply was a pretty ropy mixture for obvious reasons of supply chain disruption.

The Vitesse manual says that you should use 100 octane fuel with the advance set at 13 degrees btdc, but the ignition should be retarded to no more than 7 degrees btdc on anything less than 100 octane (unleaded is 95, super is 97).

When I first started mine with the injection system working I immediately noticed that it had smoothed out the idle and eliminated any smoke from the exhaust. On the road it felt brisk but wouldn't really rev.

I checked the timing and found it was set at about 2 degrees btdc, so the flame front wasn't really developing until the piston was well on it's way back down the bore. I set it to 13 degrees and OMG! it pulled like a train and I'm going to have to fit a rev limiter as the engine tends to take over and charge up the rev scale as if the very Divil himself is in the driving seat (please excuse my rubbish Irish accent on the Satan analogy).

I got no detonation problems and it just felt so right. Once on the dyno, the engineer chappy commented on how quickly it picked up revs for a Triumph six pot, and asked me if there was any reason why I'd set the advance to 16 degrees btdc when the manual recommended seven?

So, I'd set the ignition timing way in advance of what the engine should comfortably run on 95 octane unleaded and didn't suffer any problems at all. By rights, I should be picking pieces of piston out of the sump and paying Rimmers for a rebuild kit.

I'll have the car back on the dyno next week and I should be able to give some power, torque, acceleration and top speed figures then. It looks promising - when the clutch started slipping it was going well over 100mph with plenty more left :)

Sorry if that's all a bit detailed but it might just inspire others to have a go themselves...

Oh, and it looks pretty cool too -

27 Jul 2013, 12:06pm
Back on the road again today, Hooray!

The steering feels much tighter and a bit more direct with the Spitfire rack and I've taken a fair bit of the toe in out of the back wheels. That's transformed the handling, it's much more confidence inspiring now and feels very adjustable on the throttle. Roundabouts are no longer a cause of anxiety!

On the negative side, I broke a couple of things while changing the clutch. The plastic cap on the end of the brake servo didn't take too kindly to being bashed with 400lbs of straight six so the servo's completely knackered - locking the brakes on when you start the engine. I've removed it and gone back to unassisted brakes, but I prefer the feel of the servo'd setup, so I'll have to replace it soon.

The connector attaching the oil pressure hose to the adaptor also fell to bits when I refitted it, so my pressure gauge is off line until I can find a replacement. I hunted high and low in my spares storage area (garage floor) for the old oil pressure switch to replace the adaptor with but I couldn't find it anywhere. Then it dawned on me that it was fitted to the adaptor.

I can't wait to get it back on the dyno now, it feels great to drive but I don't want to go too far in it until the engine's set up properly.

Plus I believe it's going to hose down later today :(
27 Jul 2013, 2:21pm
And then there were three...











Always a pleasure to see you Phil, and thanks for the tea and spares. :)
27 Jul 2013, 2:37pm
any time dave ....now the open roads for you great job
27 Jul 2013, 3:23pm
a nice looking trio there guys, well done.
27 Jul 2013, 4:43pm
Nice pic for a calender :icon_wink:
5 Aug 2013, 6:35am
Mister Towed - I bet there were times when you never thought your car would be lining up with Phil and Barry.

But you have stuck with it and the results speak for themselves. :cool:

I look forward to hearing how you get on driving it and the reaction it gets from the public.

Cheers, Paul. :)
5 Aug 2013, 7:34am
Paul L wrote:
Mister Towed - I bet there were times when you never thought your car would be lining up with Phil and Barry.

But you have stuck with it and the results speak for themselves. :cool:

I look forward to hearing how you get on driving it and the reaction it gets from the public.

Cheers, Paul. :)


Hi Paul, nice to hear from you again.

I still haven't quite finished my car yet - the fettling started rather sooner than expected with the failed clutch and I still need to sort out a tonneau cover and roundels before Goodwood Revival.

I'm also in the process of stripping down my engine and rebuilding it with a replacement block after I found a crack in it last week (thanks again Phil). Shouldn't take me too long but I'm waiting on a full gasket set from Rimmers. They've got a sale on at the mo' as when I paid for my basket the price unexpectedly dropped by about 30%, which was nice. :)

As for the reaction the car gets, when it's working everyone just loves it, young and old alike. I've had an offer of a swap for a new car (no thanks) and loads of thumbs up. Most recently a couple of trendy young dudes who got out of a very nice VW splitscreen bus in Tesco's car park said 'Man, your car's sick!' which I took to be a compliment, or they could've been commenting on the oil leaking from the crack in the block I suppose.

Anyway, hoping to be back on the road in a week so I'll post some more pictures then. The joys of Sammio ownership, eh?
9 Aug 2013, 8:21pm
Back on the road (again) today :)

Managed to effect a temporary repair on my original motor - Phil J mentioned something called 'JB Weld' - a sort of fix anything glue that's rated to about 2000 psi that he'd used to mend a cracked thermostat housing - so I thought 'what the hell' and gave it a go.

Whad'ya know, I was able to plug up the cracked oil pressure switch hole with it and move the oil pressure switch to another tapped hole in the block. I've taken the car out and done about sixty miles in it today with a weather eye on the 'oil' light, but even though I wasn't exactly hanging about not a drip got past the repair.

The plan now is to get by with this engine (with fingers crossed) for the time being, and rebuild the spare one I bought from Phil over winter, but maybe with a slightly hotter cam and a lightened flywheel.

I also popped into Brockwells to get a quote for a tonneau cover, and then stopped off at JD Signs in Southery to order some roundels. Both jobs are pencilled in for just over a week's time.

My car's running really well now and drawing lots of attention and positive comments from other drivers in traffic. I also filled up and checked the fuel consumption. Considering the 155 miles I've covered since I last brimmed the tank have included dyno runs at over 100mph and a period spent crawling along with the engine screaming and the clutch slipping, I don't think 35mpg is too bad :)

Next job is to make a camera mount and get some on the move video shot.

More soon, hopefully...
10 Aug 2013, 12:24am
great job towed jb is good stuff..shelly said she see you out on the road ... alway's some one see a car like that.....that's just great new's bud just have some fun ..and if u fancy a run out ..i an just a text away ...great to see u sunday ... if u fancy a look at the spritfire i will take u around .. he's got a pit's stunt plane too ..he went up in it.. think
u had gone by then ...it fly's great ..he said if you fancy a go in the tank he take u around the track ..be fun mate..... 90 buck s of fuel for that little run in spirtfire ..but boy it looked the tits did it not ...
10 Aug 2013, 7:49am
I'm really glad to see you've got to the point where you're enjoying owning/driving the car! There will always be a list of to/do's as I found out, that is just part of the fun :)

I'll have to male sure I come and say hello if you're at any of the shows as I'm dying to have a proper nosey and get all emo that I sold mine :)
10 Aug 2013, 7:50am
It was a good day out Phil. Shame it's the last time they're going to have their open day :(

For those that might wonder what we're talking about, last Sunday was the Denver (Norfolk) historic military vehicle show. It's run by some friends of Phil's who're avid collectors of all things military - tanks; field guns; and even a 4/5ths scale Supermarine Spitfire powered by a Jag XJ12 engine. When I saw it approach in the air it had me fooled, it looks, sounds and flies just like the real thing. The cockpit's tiny though, it must be very claustrophobic for the pilot -











I'ts been run every three years but the organisers have announced that they're just getting too old to run it in 2016, which is a shame.

It's my lad's birthday today so I'm taking him to a tank driving experience in Thetford Forest, then I'm at work tomorrow, foot beat at the Downham Water Festival. I'd love to see you if you happen by in you Spyder, I'll be the one dressed all in black Kevlar and sweating my cobbs off...