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G46 No.6 Blackbird

8 Sep 2016, 8:00pm
Enjoy Goodwood and good luck with the MOT.
9 Sep 2016, 7:19am
Mister Towed wrote:
Enjoy Goodwood and good luck with the MOT.

+1

I've only had my MOT for a little over a week, but all the build hassles quickly fade away when you can finally drive the car. :cool:

Hope it all goes well, Paul. :)
10 Sep 2016, 8:35am
HouseMartin wrote:
I am making the 8 hour trip south tomorrow.
So I can attend the Goodwood Revival on Sat, before the long drive home on Sunday.
Unfortunately not taking the G46 as it still has no MOT, although it is booked in for a test next week.:wink:
Saving the pennies gor the paint job by taking the ford diesel instead.
I will be on the look out for Sammios in the car park and also hope to get some good photos of the historic racing for inspiration.
I am taking my 4 nieces and nephews in an attempt to inspire them into older cars before they end up in a corsa.
Can't wait
HM


Its the best you can do for family, not let them end up in Corsas
22 Sep 2016, 10:28pm
Rain

After my rain sodden day to Goodwood, which despite the weather was excellent.
I got to get close to some exotic car such as this DB1 copy

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And this original d-type in the dry motor show building

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It was nice to see some part assembled bodies in the trade area

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But the best part was the close and personal in the pit area with the 1950's Maserati, Ferrari and Aston Martins.
Where I was keen to see how the side screens were attached and fitted to the main screens

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When the rain stopped, I did catch the last race of the day with the Aston Martins db3 taking honors.

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My trip to the MOT followed a similar pattern with glorious sunshine before and a rain cloud dumping for my 3 mile drive to the village garage.
The Examiner was a little apprehensive about it being a red reliant scimitar, but he checked the chassis number and V5 as the same so fortunately carried on.
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Unfortunately it failed and I returned home with a bath tub full of water.
So my list of jobs for the next 10 days are:

Headlight aim - A bit low as they were shining at his feet, so some serious packing or even cutting of the fibreglass mounting is required.

Nearside front wheel bearing play
- but I think it is the wire wheels not tightened enough as the play had gone by the time I got back.

A rear brake pipe not securely fastened
- so a little clip should sort that.

Parking brake efficiency below requirements - now I had problems getting the required 25% efficiency on single line system with the donor vehicle, so I was not surprised.
Given the scimitar weighs 1390kg and I recon the missing doors, roof, interior, rear screen and rear windows make it a little lighter, the job is even harder.
I am tempted to ask the garage to fix it and bite the bullet for new drums, pads and labour to get the garage to sort it.

Hopefully some good news next posting.

on the bright side the windscreen and wipers do work well!

HM
23 Sep 2016, 5:59am
HouseMartin - Nice Goodwood photos. :cool:

Shame about the rain on the way to the MOT test (and the fail itself). :icon_sad:

Good luck with getting the last few jobs ticked off, Paul. :)

PS
It was an easy decision for me to simply pay the garage to sort out my own MOT fail on emissions.

Also my V5C lists my car's as being green, but it was tested in grey primer.

When the tester asked me what colour it was going to be, I said BRG and thought he was just being curious.

But when I checked later on, he had listed the car's colour as green on the MOT to match the V5C. :cool:
23 Sep 2016, 6:59am
The fail isn't too bad, nothing too scary to address.

What was it like to drive, I always loved the G46 it has such a presence.
23 Sep 2016, 8:18am
Unlikely to need drums but there's a known wear point on the handbrake lever pivot points (as they go through the back plates) that will give you low efficiency.
24 Sep 2016, 8:35am
Weekend work

Thanks for the coments guys,

I really enjoyed the drive and loved leaning over the side of the car and looking around the windscreen on the corners.
Luckily there is a couple of 90 degree bends on the way to the garage.
I took it very easy as it was first run out on the wire wheels and the brakes had not been used for years.
I am looking forward to some shakedown drives down some quiet country A roads around here when it has passed.

scimjim wrote:
Unlikely to need drums but there's a known wear point on the handbrake lever pivot points
(as they go through the back plates) that will give you low efficiency.


Jim,
Great info I will do some research on scimweb site and see how my levers look compared to a good one.

HM
4 Oct 2016, 9:48pm
Another G46 on the road

MOT Passed. Really chuffed!

It was a nice morning so had an extended drive home.
I am going to enjoy driving this car, I just love the open air experience and great v6 sound when you floor the throttle.
But forgot to take a photo!:icon_lol:

Thanks go to Gary for creating such an imposing car.
It has been a challenging but enjoyable journey from an ebay advert in 2012 to a road legal car in 2016.

G46 Number 6 on the verge.
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I will have a few trips over the next few weeks to fettle the engine and see what rattles or comes loose and how the handling compares to the scimitar.
I fancy a night time trip down the dark quiet county lanes to see if the headlights are good enough to see the owls and badgers on the road.
Next trip is to a weighbridge to see if it still weights 1390kg as per the MOT guide. (I hope not)

The big rub down will keep me warm over the winter for a respray in British Racing Green for the spring.
Lots more still to do with headlight covers, interior trimming etc.

G46 Number 1 in a show room.
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G46 Number 7 ready for the road.
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G46 Number 8 on a race track.
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HM
4 Oct 2016, 10:28pm
Well done HM
5 Oct 2016, 5:47am
HouseMartin - Many congratulations. :cool:

A G-46 on the road is a very rare thing indeed.

I am sure you will have a lot of fun, and turn a lot of heads, during your shakedown runs.

Enjoy, Paul. :)
5 Oct 2016, 6:02am
Great news on the MOT. Enjoy the experience!
5 Oct 2016, 8:03am
It sounds great fun, well done. Please don't leave forum, keep the pictures and thoughts coming.
5 Oct 2016, 9:33am
HM

Congratulations, on the Road.

I hope to finish my house / garage by Christmas G46 still on the trailer but ready to move into it's new work shop soon.

Thanks for the hurry up!
5 Oct 2016, 7:02pm
WELL DONE MATE ....Make the most of the mild Autumn so far and drive the pants off her ...you cannot beat a little Roadster on a dry day ...any temperature ..as winter roadster driving is pretty cool too ...just not rain !!
9 Oct 2016, 8:04pm
Thank you Guys,
Gary L, I still have work to do so more photo when I get time to upload them.
C.T Maybe you could post a picture of how your Garage is progressing and make us all jealous again.
LL, I am not sure the little and G46 go together, but I just love driving it.
Cheers
HM
14 Nov 2016, 11:46pm
Hi Guys
I'm new to this forum, I am the owner of G46 no5, the ex WCA car.
It was on the road for a while, great fun to drive, and is now being rebuilt as the original construction was quite rough. At the same time I am upgrading the frame to an SE5A and a fast triple carb engine.
Steve D
15 Nov 2016, 7:12am
Hi Steve, welcome to the forum. Nice to hear about another Sammio model being restored and upgraded and it would be really nice to see some pictures as you go along.

Shame it's a bit rough at the moment. Mind you, during its time in WCA's hands it quite possibly fell off the roof of a conservatory, somersaulted down an Alpine black run, fell off a motorcycle at speed and accidentally cut one of its own wheels off with an angle grinder.

On a more positive note, if it's anything like its first owner it's probably held together with enough titanium rods to pay for the restoration if you weigh them in at the local scrappie. :)
15 Nov 2016, 7:39pm
Hi Steve,

Welcome, great new that you have joined the forum.
I have had lots of great support from everyone on here.

Every G46 is unique so it would be great to see some photos of it out on the road, especially as that blue colour looks so good.

If you have any question on your rebuild, just post and I will let you know what I wished I had done on No6.
I am sure Andrew Hush No3 or Chairman No2 will also contribute their experiences.

I like the sound of the triple carbs and great to look at.

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HM
15 Nov 2016, 8:19pm
Dvla

Just got the V5 back from DVLA so I did a vehicle tax check.

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I wonder what the other G46's have on their V5C

HM
16 Nov 2016, 12:10am
G46 No 5

Unfortunately, what I mean by a bit rough was the original build, the body is bodged on with lumps of wood and 2 part foam, internal panelling is cheap ply and the engine was a complete nightmare.
The car looked great from the outside and drove quite well although skinny tyres on 4" wide TR4 rims made for lots of sliding around.
I am going to replace all the panelling and the front bulkhead with aluminum sheet. I am fitting a balance bar pedal box to get twin circuit brakes.
The car should be back on the road in the Spring, should have around 200 or so horses so will be an exciting drive!

I have also found an easy way to gain twin circuit brakes on early cars if you can do without a servo. Much safer than single and makes the handbrake easier to get through an MOT!

SteveD
16 Nov 2016, 11:53am
SteveD wrote:
Unfortunately, what I mean by a bit rough was the original build, the body is bodged on with lumps of wood and 2 part foam, internal panelling is cheap ply and the engine was a complete nightmare.
The car looked great from the outside and drove quite well although skinny tyres on 4" wide TR4 rims made for lots of sliding around.
I am going to replace all the panelling and the front bulkhead with aluminum sheet. I am fitting a balance bar pedal box to get twin circuit brakes.
The car should be back on the road in the Spring, should have around 200 or so horses so will be an exciting drive!

I have also found an easy way to gain twin circuit brakes on early cars if you can do without a servo. Much safer than single and makes the handbrake easier to get through an MOT!

SteveD



Steve

Good to see WCA's G46 getting a new lease of life our car has been put on hold whilst building first a barn conversion for my family home and now the conversion of an old barn as my garage / office etc. Hope to have mine back in the garage for the new year and looking forward to progressing it. As HM said if we can be of any assistance please ask.
16 Nov 2016, 11:39pm
Mine is registered as a Sammio/Ribble G46.
I will post some more pictures as the rebuild progresses.
SteveD
17 Nov 2016, 7:22am
Would love to hear about your easy way to switch to dual circuit brakes - balance bar pedal box by any chance?



I'll definitely include dual circuit brakes on future projects as the handbrake on my Spyder is the only weak point for the MOT and is always marginal. With dual circuit brakes it only needs to pull half the negative 'G' for a pass so would breeze it.

Dual circuit servos are available btw, but they're fairly expensive -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compact-Dual-Circuit-Remote-Brake-Servo-For-Kit-Car-Classic-/282129517628?hash=item41b03acc3c:g:MhUAAOSw5IJWb9Xr
17 Nov 2016, 9:58am
Dual Circuit Brakes

Balance bar pedal box is the ultimate but very difficult to retro fit in most cars.
The picture you have is one floor mounted, Burton,s do a bulkhead mounted one with hanging pedals which I am using in my car.
However, look at E-Bay number 282234925508, this fits straight onto the standard Scimitar pedal box, change the pushrod for the existing one and a little bit of re-piping to do.
As to servos, I have had two of the remote type fail on me, luckily at slow speeds, so I dislike them and run all my cars without them. If you can cope with a slightly higher pedal pressure, I find the Scimitar brakes to be better without a servo and the MOT tester has no problems with the setup.
SteveD