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Scimitar Based 1950's Style Race Car

7 Jan 2012, 6:29pm
Can you take a cushion? :bolt:
7 Jan 2012, 7:41pm
Let's see. Spitfire Macau order form...

Low level flyscreen - check.

Full face helmet - check.

Too tall head fairing - double check.

Plasticine wheel nuts - why not?



At least it doesn't need windscreen wipers...
7 Jan 2012, 8:04pm
Liking the orange parasol, an easy fit I would have thought..
7 Jan 2012, 8:09pm
I thought it was an evil killer jellyfish sucking the car up into a parallel universe where too tall head fairings are considered cool...:icon_confused:
7 Jan 2012, 8:28pm
Roybo wrote:
the way i'd read it is, as long as you look over the screen theres no regs as to what the screen should be made of.i think a better term would be wind deflector,
and a lot of '7' type cars use them and go through the iva tests ok


Yep, I reckon that's a fair assessment as I couldn't find diddly regarding wind deflectors in the Construction & Use Regs.

I also raised the topic at work today and it was generally agreed that it would be an exceptionally 4nally retentive traffic cop that would even consider stopping you to check if it's legal to drive with a perspex flyscreen. Yer average Beat Bobby just wouldn't give two hoots. :mod:

I did find a link to an MG site that recommended 'shotgun' glasses as essential eyewear when driving without a full windscreen. I'm thinking of using clear industrial safety glasses and a pudding basin TT helmet myself...:nerd: + :tinfoil3:
7 Jan 2012, 8:35pm
Charman.tech wrote:
So does that depend on how tall or short you are or the how tall or short the man is carrying out the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

obviously i'd imagine they'd use a bit of common sense.
i'd imagine if the inspector was a dwarf and couldn't see over the steering wheel so therefore could'nt look over the deflector,they'd use an average.
or the 7 ft tall and could put his head out of the sunroof of a transit van,i'd
hope they would use an average,
i know they use a piece of wood from the seat to measure seat belt heights
rather than rely on the height of the inspector
7 Jan 2012, 9:06pm
Hmm, common sense in the application of the law you say. That's a novel concept...
7 Jan 2012, 10:17pm
The bit that I am not sure about is whether I need to worry about IVA, MOT or something else.

If I am just rebodying the TVR then it is no different to the standard Sammio Spyder rebody of the Herald. I don't need IVA, it just has to get through the MOT.

If this is the case, can I have a 'quite tall' wind deflector that might look like a windscreen to the uninitiated? That would have the benefit of stopping the stones and spray in the face without needing wipers etc.

Anyone know what the MOT rules are? If I don't have wipers fitted will it fail because they don't work?

Any thoughts or advice welcome
7 Jan 2012, 11:31pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Hmm, common sense in the application of the law you say. That's a novel concept...


thats true
8 Jan 2012, 12:12am
Thanks for clarifying Construction and Use Regs - been a very long time since looked at these..and they have changed.

So you could have a tall-ish screen fitted to a Sammio G46 (like a D-type wrap-around screen) provided you could adequately see over it - hydraulically powered drivers seat then...!
8 Jan 2012, 1:04pm
Without going over old ground too much - my understanding is basically , you look through a screen and over a deflector.

As far as Mot with a taller screen goes ....you can MOT without a screen at all and fit after the event if you have any doubt....also , the sit upright / extra padding approach can work quite well.

A fixed screen of full height will need wipers and washers , a folding screen like we used to fit on our 1932 Ford Roadster kits ,doesnt need anything , even though you look through it.

The D-Type style screen is probably as large as you would be able to go without wipers , but that screen will be pretty effective.

The G-46 is destined to have side screens to emulate the D-type.

We have made moulds for all the flanges now just waiting for screens to be cut.
8 Jan 2012, 1:34pm
Cheers Gary I guess the MK1 V8 will get to the screen fitting before me so I will have a look. I want to be able to use the car without a helmet and goggle and still use the motorway.

I know the G46 isn't normally daily driver but I also know that I choose the fun car over the practical too much of the time. I bought the Integra Type R as an occaisional fun car and ended up driving between 30-40,000 miles a year in it for the first three years.

I guess I won't be doing that much in the G46 but it will be used for more than high days and holidays. Turning up as a business consultant in a suit, tie and race helmet might provoke comments from my clients. ;-)
8 Jan 2012, 6:56pm
WorldClassAccident wrote:


I guess I won't be doing that much in the G46 but it will be used for more than high days and holidays. Turning up as a business consultant in a suit, tie and race helmet might provoke comments from my clients. ;-)


I dunno, I used to sell anti-virus software when I was younger while wearing a helmet to disguise my bald spot.

Never did my sales figures any harm.

Here's a picture of me in my company jumper wearing a lid:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTYoZCBSM1jFLR-3xqZ3VFKl3f_A9S-OHBVIhM835NyOgiQnKTNAQ

:eusa_liar:
8 Jan 2012, 7:32pm
Here in the Nederland we are finding the crash helmet essential for the wearing.

Especially when going to the shopping for special cigarettes which are being legal...

8 Jan 2012, 7:55pm
Mr Towed - I didn't know they took that picture of me. Hell of a party the night before...
31 Jan 2012, 4:39pm
Gary, any update on the G46!

Thought i would bring the generic thread back to the top:icon_smile:
31 Jan 2012, 5:02pm
Windscreen -v- deflector and IVA.


IF (I'm not sure it's a requirement, might have missed that bit) IVA is required and you're worrying about wipers and demisters could you not trial fit a very small deflector pending the delivery of your larger one which might arrive (ahem) after the inspection has been passed?

Just thinking out loud like :evil:
31 Jan 2012, 6:19pm
A caravan hair dryer plugged into the fag lighter will be fine...
31 Jan 2012, 10:44pm
just use one of these

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/Electric_Demist_Heater_DEMST



Description
Now you can have front screen demisting without the hassle of plumbing-in a hot water powered heater.

This neat little unit has a moulded ABS case with an electric fan and a 168 watt 12 volt heater element.

Simply cut a rectangular hole in your dash top and bond the unit underneath (shown below).

IVA compliance may depend upon your particular installation and may require more than one unit. Size 65mm x 193mm x 87mm with swivel base.

ELECTRIC DEMIST HEATER #DEMST
1 Feb 2012, 4:59pm
Do we need to worry about IVA when we are justr 'adjusting' the body work? I thought we just had to get it through an MOT.

Having said that I am planning on fitting wipers and a heater to mine as there is a risk it will become my daily driver if the wife sticks to her plan to only let me have one sports car and the TVR has to go.
5 Mar 2012, 4:39pm
Haven't posted here for a while.....mainly because there hasn't been a lot to show...

I have finished the screen mouldings now and gel'd up an example.
Mike will lay a set up for me tomorrow and I can get them fitted.

The doors are going on tomorrow.

The rear internal arches are being glassed onto the body tomorrow.

The recently bought hub adaptors and wire wheels are going on tomorrow as well....

wednesday should see screen fitted....

Everything is angling towards getting the car in the paintshop in the next week or two.....

updates to follow....
5 Mar 2012, 4:59pm
I'm looking forward to seeing a completed G46 since I visited last week. It looks far better in person than I had seen in any of the photos and I have been having a sneaky look at Scimitars. Just need to convince the wife its a good idea first and get the Spyder finished.
5 Mar 2012, 5:31pm
Do you still want me to bring my scimiter down to fit the frame and measure it ?
if so, I will try and borrow a trailer and might get it down to you next weekend our early the following week.
If not, I might just come down in the tvr again to pay a deposit and have another look at the G46 you are working on.
5 Mar 2012, 6:18pm
GazDavies wrote:
I'm looking forward to seeing a completed G46 since I visited last week. It looks far better in person than I had seen in any of the photos .



SO AM I !!!

Thank you Gaz....The website pics just don't do the car any justice....it needs some colour !
5 Mar 2012, 7:19pm
lancelot link wrote:
SO AM I !!!

Thank you Gaz....The website pics just don't do the car any justice....it needs some colour !


Gary

Pleased to see you are making some progress, our builds been very slow with Charlie and I having work fitments, hope to get stuck back in very very soon.

What door hinges did you use in the end?