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Just a thought, the Spyder bodyshell is adapted from the 50's Nikkri that Gary bought a couple of years back. Assuming the Nikkri empire collapsed in the sixties and nobody owns the rights, perhaps the export model could be registered as a Nikkri mkII instead. Then, when the Stasi trained TUV tester checks your papers (I was going to say Gestapo trained but I thought that might be a bit offensive to those German people who prefer not to be reminded about that particular bit of inglorious European history, and yes, I know we British invented the concentration camp in Transvaal, it just took Teutonic efficiency to perfect it) they will fail to see the deception and maybe won't send you to prison. Until you try to drive it.
Towed an Interesting translation to your last when you use Bing Translator
"Dear MICAH, you would add the fold simply slapped on some overspray and your fu*#ing draconian TÜV test.Thank you"
Towed an Interesting translation to your last when you use Bing Translator
"Dear MICAH, you would add the fold simply slapped on some overspray and your fu*#ing draconian TÜV test.Thank you"
Hmm, it was supposed to politely ask the gentleman to stop banging on about overspray and his bloody draconian TUV test. Google translate appears to have its limitations meine Brustwarzen in der Sonne explodieren.
a really good idea to give it more retro-look in using rivets all around the body.
really nice.
what isnt nice (for that price): the engine, incl. all ancelleries is also pinted in blue....is it so difficult to mask the parts which should not receive any paint or at least buy a can of thinner, invest 2 or 3 hours and clean off that overspray?
by the way the "other" sammio of my mate hasnt passed the german MOT: handbrake uneven and unsufficient, chassis welding far beyond german mot standard, windscreen (wind-defelctor) needs a material certificate or e-markings, if those problems are sorted (which willget done soon) the mot certificate will be issued for a "standard" registration..historic registration was denied due to the body conversion been done recently (the MOT tester checked online and found out that the sammio company exists only for around 2 years).
We don't give a shite about your regulations for historic registration thats your problem. AS for all your other moans and groans you sound like some sad git that moans about everything and anything. Why Don't you just f**k
off and find somewhere else to moan.
"chassis welding far beyond german mot standard" Mmmmm and this is a reason to fail!
It seems as much as you dislike our build standards, our overspray or our inadequate testing you cant stay away, try and be positive and maintain the healthy input that makes this site such a good experience for the majority, I found it unique before that all tried to help each other with suggestions and idea's without the need to knock each others efforts. OK we dont always get it right but we learn from each other and do progress. What we dont need is a troll on the forum....
Well we now know that the Sammio vehicle Micha is talking about doesn't pass the German equivalent of our 'MOT' - OK, that's a simple case of checking out the regs in Germany before buying a UK built car, importing it and then trying to register/test it.
If I was in the same position I would at least try and do a little homework first rather than perhaps trusting to the vendor to point out the fact.
As for the car in the picture itself - clearly the over spray was there to be seen and it's the vendors choice to leave it as 'is' or spend a couple of hundred $ on new hoses and a few shiny bits and sell it for more.
I'd have been happy to haggle over the price using the dirty engine (if it was) and the minor over spray (easily removed) as a bargaining tool and then enjoyed myself doing a little cleaning and polishing (which is about my mechanical level).
If it was a £30k Cobra I think I was being ripped off, but it's not, its a humble motor car at a reasonable price (so the market says) which can be buffed and polished and modified (at least over here) as much as you like...
It's a bit below the belt to mention it I know, but we fought a European war at considerable cost in an attempt to stop the erosion of our individual freedom to reasonably express ourselves, whether through the high level culture or vehicle customisation, freedoms which we still hold quite dearly and are prepared to defend against the European Bureaucracy - it was clear from the Enabling Act of 1933 that the people of a certain central European country did not feel the same way and the individuals within were happy to pass a great deal of its freedoms to its Nationalist government.
The British car industry is alive and well and producing a number of F1 winning designs.
Now, now. Let's not get too personal over this. Micha has a point about which car industry has survived, after all, the largest British owned manufacturer of motor cars is...
Morgan
Whereas Volkswagen is doing rather nicely. Mind you, it's a fcking good job British Army Major Ivan Hirst decided to rebuild the Beetle factory after my Grandfather bombed the sh!t out of it and incinerated all its employees.
Now I know that with twenty twenty hindsight a bunch of leftie pacifists think it was a bit unethical carpet bombing the peace loving people of Germany, but at least Albert Speer was gracious enough to state that he'd have won the war for Adolf if his workers hadn't all been killed. Including those he'd 'borrowed' from Poland.
And Denmark.
And Norway.
And Belgium.
And Holland.
And Luxembourg.
And France.
And the Channel Islands.
And Greece.
And Serbia.
And Croatia.
And Slovenia.
And Bosnia.
And Russia.
And Ukraine.
And Belarus.
And Lithuania.
And Latvia.
And Estonia.
And Egypt.
OK, so they didn't make it all the way across Russia but I think I made my point.
Anyway, Micha is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Even if he is completely and utterly wrong.
Micha,
You are right , a couple of hours with some thinners and rattle cans will tidy up the engine bay....if someone stated that as a sole reason for not buying , the work could be done...not a problem.
As you know , shiny paint and new clips etc won't gain you any advantage in the TUV , but I would happily do it for the new owner...
This car has a very solid , barely welded chassis....
oh ....and welcome back to the forum for our wrecks !!
Micha,
You are right , a couple of hours with some thinners and rattle cans will tidy up the engine bay....if someone stated that as a sole reason for not buying , the work could be done...not a problem.
As you know , shiny paint and new clips etc won't gain you any advantage in the TUV , but I would happily do it for the new owner...
This car has a very solid , barely welded chassis....
oh ....and welcome back to the forum for our wrecks !!
What a lovely, polite reply Gary, and yes, many of our cars are wrecks, but they're our wrecks.
Oh, and well done for not mentioning the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it...
But it may be of interest to regulars on here that Dave Thickens has recently sold his Sammio for 7500 to a ...........German enthusiast !
The same chap who then took the Sammio to Beaulieu and put a price tag of over thirty thousand on it !!!
and I thought the only madman to come out of Germany was Austrian !!
It didn't sell....................
Thirty grand would've been a bargain. I've done some calculations on the back of a napkin and I reckon I've now put about a thousand hours into building my Spyder (admittedly more than half of that was spent renovating the rotten chassis). At main dealer labour rates of at least forty quid an hour, that means I've got about £40k plus parts banked in my car.
Now, off to Beaulieu to double my money - "At eighty five thousand guineas I'm bid, do I hear ninety? Selling this unique silver Sammio Spyder at Eighty five thousand guineas... Ninety, ninety thousand I'm bid. Ninety five, one hundred, one hundred and ten thousand guineas...
I have heard that the MUCH rarer road going G46 can't be bought for money or love at the moment.
The first one of those that appears on the open market must be at least 5 - 10 times the basic Sammio price.
This time next year I will be a millionaire!
Rodney, you plonker. The G46 don't exist. It's an urban myff, innit. Like towing a Sammio wiv an A frame being illegal's a myff. Don't you know nuffink?