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Sammio Spyder Builds.....

12 Mar 2011, 5:38pm
Just waiting to fit the wire wheels...









13 Mar 2011, 8:07pm
Nearly to be finished !



:lalala:
15 Mar 2011, 7:37pm
Excellent work Patrice ,

Your wire wheels will be packaged tomorrow and sent out - I have a few dashboards etc to go out at same time...

I quite like the painted steel wheels - shame they aren't a fraction bigger.

I'm actually playing with some '65 Beetle rims and adaptors at the moment to try and create a fake ''Rudge style'' knock on steel ( think 50's Gullwing Mercedes ) that I want to use on a car to get away from the wires for a change....The Dunlop style steels from D-types and similar are cool too , but expensive - later Beetle wheels could be dressed to look similar though !!
16 Mar 2011, 6:24am
Just found this build

I have been out of the country for a good few years and now I am back I was trawling through some of my old websites and came across this build.
I am fascinated by this one and very interested how it all fits together. as I may buy one when I get in to my new place in the summer. the price is right up my street.

I prefer the older Porsche style front end but I would like a vitesse chassis can it be made to fit easy enough? and it would have to be silver, or Renault Clio Sport Yellow like the picture I photo-shopped


DSCF0131 by mbradl12, on Flickr

Obviously stripping the Herald/Vitesse is OK, but the build up I am interested in,
I have a few questions if I may
Is there any instructions I could look at?

Obviously the frame is bolted to the Chassis but what about at the bulkhead? welded or bolted?

Also how is the body bonded /glassed to the frame and also to the wooden floor pans

Web site say you can unbolt the whole body off the chassis when fully built. I guess it is quite strong when fully built.

I suppose pictures of building the frame on to the chassis and bonding the body to frame is too much to ask? I love pictures.

Sorry, rambling I'll stop for now
Martin
16 Mar 2011, 9:30am
Wheels

I've just tried the 15 inch MGF wheels (minilite style) low profile tyres, on my build they fit a treat just may need a spacer on the rear because of the offset but the minor mods that are required for the 14inch wires will do the job.....PAT (in devon)
16 Mar 2011, 9:32am
Colour

I'm planing on bright yellow (citreon saxo).....Pat
16 Mar 2011, 4:11pm
tooslow wrote:


I prefer the older Porsche style front end but I would like a vitesse chassis can it be made to fit easy enough? and it would have to be silver, or Renault Clio Sport Yellow like the picture I photo-shoppe

Obviously stripping the Herald/Vitesse is OK, but the build up I am interested in,
I have a few questions if I may
Is there any instructions I could look at?

Obviously the frame is bolted to the Chassis but what about at the bulkhead? welded or bolted?

Also how is the body bonded /glassed to the frame and also to the wooden floor pans

Web site say you can unbolt the whole body off the chassis when fully built. I guess it is quite strong when fully built.

I suppose pictures of building the frame on to the chassis and bonding the body to frame is too much to ask? I love pictures.

Sorry, rambling I'll stop for now
Martin


Hi Martin , firstly - if you email me via the website I can sort some pics out for you and give you some comprehensive answers ...I'll do the quick version here ...

The original front won't fit the Vitesse without serious bulges.

No instructions but plenty of pics available with comments.

The body is bonded to the frame and bulkhead with glass fibre and/or silicons etc...the metal frame bolts to the bulkhead but could be welded in place if preferred.

The body is bonded to the frame with bonding paste and/or strips of glassfibre attached like bandages. The body is fibreglassed to the wooden floor in a similar manner. Its very strong when all mated together.

Thank you
17 Mar 2011, 2:05am
I have sent a mail via the link in the web site
20 Mar 2011, 12:47pm
Thank you - I have replied...

Complete Kit Car Magazine this month has some very good Sammio pics in it for you picture collectors out there !!
2 Apr 2011, 4:06pm
Hi,
I have been corresponding with a guy in Detroit who is trying to put a package of kits together to be shipped to the U.S.
He isn't attempting to profit from the deal - both he and a buddy of his want a kit and bringing a few in would keep their expenses down....

We reckon we can get 6 in a 20' container.

I have passed him emails from a Canadian and a fellow American who have approached me and he has some positive leads through his forum of choice ( GRASS ROOTS MOTORSPORT , GRM ).

I thought I would post this up on here in case any Stateside interest is being researched through this thread...Obviously , if we can get something going , thats good news for me on a financial level as well as an exposure level and good news for the buyers too !!

I have agreed to trim the kit price down for a bulk order - not much to trim off , but it all helps !

If anyone wants David's contact details , please email me direct on [email]info@sammio-spyder.com[/email] for that info...

THANK YOU
7 Apr 2011, 12:06pm
Very excited!!!

Hi all...

I'm new to the forum too, and I too am very excited about building my Spyder.

The Herald chassis and engine refurb is going great, I have a massive pile of shiny new bits in the garage just waiting for the chassis to be painted.

Even more exciting is picking my body (and more shiny bits) up from Poole this Saturday (9th)!!!!!!!!!! :whoo:

I'll post some pics of the build as I go alone.
10 Apr 2011, 9:49pm
along.....

Picking the body up Next weekend instead, but that gives me more time to prep the chassis.....
13 Apr 2011, 11:41am
CUSTOMERS CAR FINISHED AND GOING OUT TOMORROW...FEW CHANGES FROM NORM....THE REAR WINGS HAVE BEEN 'FATTENED' UP A BIT DUE TO TAIL LIGHT CHOICES ( THINK D-TYPE ! )

13 Apr 2011, 4:53pm
Nice car !
13 Apr 2011, 6:31pm
That looks one nice car, even if the picture is a bit 'Spotty'

Looks like you guys do some excellent work.
15 Apr 2011, 10:25pm
Watching all this with interest. I've not forgotten, just hunting for the right donor.
20 Apr 2011, 7:53pm
Yes? Am I right?

Am I right that de Scimitar donor is being prepared? :rockon: Is the work on a Scimbased Sammio really starting to happen? There is an early SE5 up for parts on the Scimitarweb... Seller is someone called "Sammio"... Coincidence? :icon_wink:

Gr.,
Scimmy
22 Apr 2011, 6:35pm
Scimmy wrote:
Am I right that de Scimitar donor is being prepared? :rockon: Is the work on a Scimbased Sammio really starting to happen? There is an early SE5 up for parts on the Scimitarweb... Seller is someone called "Sammio"... Coincidence? :icon_wink:

Gr.,
Scimmy


Hi,
We have started shaping up a body for an SE5 , yes....its early days to know exactly how its going to come out - I have a picture in my head but things can change !
Think Ferrari 410 sports spyder meets Sammio Spyder ...add a bit of Porsche 550 spyder and a bit of poetic licence and we are nearly there !! ( lots of spyders! )

Heres a taster - bit tricky to see and looks a real mess right now , but will evolve over the next couple of months...



Getting lots of help this time round from my sidekick , Mike Hughes , who is as passionate for this style as I am and has a natural eye and flair for what we are trying to create...

I don't want to replicate anything , simply take influence from various sources and see where we end up !

Same process as the Sammio which has evolved over the last few years to where it is now....
22 Apr 2011, 7:36pm
Yes! I can't wait! If it's going to be nearly as good looking as the existing Sammio has become, I'm definitely in for a body and frame! :dance: I'll start chopping up my Scimitar and deciding on a colorscheme... Keep up the good work, I'll be following the evolution closely!

Gr.,
Scimmy
23 Apr 2011, 4:42pm
Scimmy wrote:
Yes! I can't wait! If it's going to be nearly as good looking as the existing Sammio has become, I'm definitely in for a body and frame! :dance: I'll start chopping up my Scimitar and deciding on a colorscheme... Keep up the good work, I'll be following the evolution closely!

Gr.,
Scimmy


Don't start cutting that car just yet !! Is yours an SE5 ?

IT DOES NEED TO BE AN SE5 OR 5A.

We are planning on offering it as a bodyshell similar to the Sammio that you will graft onto your existing Scimitar bulkhead and floor section...not sure how the bracing is going to work yet.....this will be the cheapest way to buy the body....

.I am also planning on moulding it as a complete replacement bodyshell incorporating bulkhead and floor and internal bracing but that needs developing after we have the initial cheaper shell option sorted...the complete shell will be considerably dearer than the outer skin style but will be less complicated to build...

Work won't be fast on this , I am going to be putting in a few days a week on it and any extra time I can find , but Sammio builds and kits etc is keeping us busy right now as well as funds being limited for new projects .....I have a Porsche 550 replica on a modified Beetle chassis under development as well which should mean we can supply an internal tube frame that will bolt on to your modified Beetle chassis and support a 550 Porsche body panel kit - all for under £2000 !
26 Apr 2011, 1:59pm
It's an Se5a, so no problem there! And given the fact that it probably won't be very soon before I get the body off my Scim anyway, I'm not in a hurry. Which doesn't mean I don't want it as soon as possible :biggrin1:

Some inspiration I came across: http://www.britishracecar.com/SteveKonsin-LesterMG.htm


Gr.,
Scimmy
7 May 2011, 2:53pm
Hi,
I have secured a deal with a nationwide transport company - DYCE CARRIERS to deliver our packages anywhere U.K. Mainland for a max of £350.

Any fairly localish deliveries we can deal with in-house or arrange smaller couriers , where this deal comes through is when Scottish parties or Northern Wales etc are interested...we are right at the bottom of the U.K. which can be geographically challenging for some folk.

We have just taken advantage of this deal and sent a kit to North of Glasgow for a customer....We have another going to Northumberland next week as well...

Incidentally , if anyone collects a kit , this is the recommended way to get it in a van....in this format it takes up just over 9' x 5' of floor space !

7 May 2011, 2:58pm
I'm starting a new thread for the Scimitar based bodies for anyone who's interested.....

Keep this thread uncomplicated !!