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thanks for the reply crocus ,the one in the ad says hes made the footwell bigger, so thats a start!
if i get it i might swap the engine and box for an alfa or audi a4.
i was looking in an old kit guide from 1996 and the deon ads are in it, if i get a chance later i will upload it.
the red convertible is in with it hood up.
Crocus is absolutely right in what he says to look out for. I would just add look very carefully at the fit of the doors, they were a pig to hang. The guy who built mine spent literaly weeks getting them just right.
Hi
regards having a new roof made I still have david javan's telephone number.It's a long shot as it's almost 10 years since I last spoke to him,but he may be able to help.
you'll have to let me have your e-mail as I wouldn't want to post his number on here.
ian
Crocus is absolutely right in what he says to look out for. I would just add look very carefully at the fit of the doors, they were a pig to hang. The guy who built mine spent literaly weeks getting them just right.
Regards
Mac.
I've seen, over the years, many jhclassic's and deon gt/gts and the poor door fit is what they all have in common.Some are not too bad but other are real poor indeed.I've seen some where you can get your fingers in to the shut lines the gaps are so bad.The passenger door seem the worst.
My doors was just as bad as every one I've looked at,but I've cut them and re-fibreglass them and made them a whole lot better.Another thing is the door frames that take the glass.The deon ones were rubbish and were cut up and binned within weeks of them being delivered.I had some made by classic replicas and they weren't much better.The alley welding was done on a mig and would never look good so these too were scrapped.I've machined up my own from steel bar to try match the real dino and I'm happy with the way they turned out.
ian
hi
re your mirabeau-I believe this car was built by david javan way back around 1996/8 ish.Seems to have change colour as it was originally a dark maroon but there is no mistaking the cossie lump with the alley breather in the boot! this is the car that lead me to fit the same engine in mine.still looks good!
ian
Hi Ian
P613FDV is still the same colour as it was when built by Dave Javan, You want the history of the car.
Built by Dave Javan with a Granada Cosworth V6, the car is number 6 of the mirabeau's sold.
The engine was second hand with 2600 miles on it, the car originally had for clock, which were later changed to smiths instruments and a nasty black surround, by the 2nd owner, who bought the car off Dave Javan at Stoneleigh Kit Car show.
The car then went to the Isle of Wight for the next number of years and was later sold by creditors at an Auction on the Isle of Wight in 2002. The car was bought by me and I built the hood frame for it as there were so many parts missing from it. I had the car for a couple of years and eventually sold it to a guy named Fraser from falkirk, who I think could still be the current owner.
Hope this helps to some degree, this is just the basics of its history.
Ross
hi
when I met david he was in the process of having a one-off fibreglass hard top made for it as the ragtop it came with was next to useless. I think only a couple were made,as the first one was melted in the paint shop oven!
I doubt if any still exsist (maybe someone out there knows more) as only a handful of mirabeau cars made it on to the road and most of them had the ragtop. Is the roof repairable? That maybe your best option.I guess it depends on how much the guy is asking as to wether you could get one made as regards costs.
ian
In regard to the hardtop, I still have it although it would need alot of work to get it to fit and be water tight.
There were three hardtops made as before the one melted in the oven, my one and there was one other out there too
Can I also ask anyone with a Mirabeau to let me know what number there car is.
So far I am only aware of
Ian Fyfe's Dark Blue, Dino Rear lights and Bonnet vents.
Neil Entwistle (Spelling) Dark Blue, Cream Leather.
Silver car N266 - Silver Factory Built, Owned by Simon, London Area
Frasers Car - P613FDV
Spain Car - Red car with a 3.1 Engine, Modified Rear boot and different interiour.
My other car part built - Chassis 14.
Mirabeau 1 - Burnt Out and chopped up, original Brochure car.
Mirabeau 33 - Owner John Hurst, Not on the road.
Also would other be interested in an Mirabeaus registery/owner club.
Also would people be interested in New Mirabeau Kits, with the option of Hardtops and brought upto date a little.
2.0 Ford Cosworth Powered or VW VR6/R32 Powered.
Any feedback on any of these thoughts would be appricated.
It is for sale,
ive been negotiating, hence the questions about a roof.
Car is currently withought hard or soft top, although i believe the current owner has a sort of frame made up.
Car needs some paint, as can be seen in the photos.
I think ill be passing this one up so if anyone wants the guys e maill address and is serious PM me and ill pass your information on.
Just make sure youve got circa 9K to buy it.
Regards
Steve
Hi Ian
P613FDV is still the same colour as it was when built by Dave Javan, You want the history of the car.
Built by Dave Javan with a Granada Cosworth V6, the car is number 6 of the mirabeau's sold.
The engine was second hand with 2600 miles on it, the car originally had for clock, which were later changed to smiths instruments and a nasty black surround, by the 2nd owner, who bought the car off Dave Javan at Stoneleigh Kit Car show.
The car then went to the Isle of Wight for the next number of years and was later sold by creditors at an Auction on the Isle of Wight in 2002. The car was bought by me and I built the hood frame for it as there were so many parts missing from it. I had the car for a couple of years and eventually sold it to a guy named Fraser from falkirk, who I think could still be the current owner.
Hope this helps to some degree, this is just the basics of its history.
Ross
hi,your right about the colour.I showed the photos of the car to my wife who said I was wrong on the colour and it was infact the same as when we saw it! I've seem to have got it mixed up with the car deon used in the advertising.I remember it being sold to the "suit" from the isle of white who wanted to pay cash for it at the stoneliegh show as I was there.But the history was good reading.cheers ian
Hi, I recently bought this. it is an original front section removed from a 246GT about a decade ago to be replaced by new parts. Not sure what I'll do with it! It could provide useful measurements.
Does anyone know of any Dino replicas in New Zealand?
macs old car that he sold on ebay a couple of weeks ago is for sale in bolton now on pistonheads and ebay, hes asking £14,000! i think mac sold it for £ 9,500
Hi Dave, Yes your right it is my old Deon. I sold it to a guy in Manchester for £9,500. I thought he wanted it for himself but it turns out he was in the trade. Not sure why it's in Bolton though. I thought 9.5k was a fair price but 14k is a bit rich.
Does anybody on this forum own or seen EMW 64L .. It was a factory built JH Classics Dino Replica I owned for 8 years about 10 years ago. The car bought me a lot of pleasure and I'd be really interested to hear how the car is..
Hi Dave, Yes your right it is my old Deon. I sold it to a guy in Manchester for £9,500. I thought he wanted it for himself but it turns out he was in the trade. Not sure why it's in Bolton though. I thought 9.5k was a fair price but 14k is a bit rich.
i just spoke to someone selling there dino, he says the following is wrong with it,
1. the windows don't work, there electric and all the wiring is there but not connected.
2. the steering is a bit 'notchy' when going slow
3.not all the gauges work, the main ones work,i.e the speedo ,oil,water, rev but he says theres about 4 that dont.
4.the passenger door lets in water when it rains.
5.the seats are bolted in for his size,it doesnt have runners.
Hi Dave, I would try to get a bit more info from the seller, like how long the car has had these problems, why he hasn't fixed them etc. Then factor them into the price you are willing to pay for the car.
1.Windows could be an easy fix, just connnect the wiring, but until you do, work on the assumption that you may need new motors.
2.Notchy steering might mean a new rack, not a big deal as it's a MK2 mini rack and not very expensive.
3.Gauges not working is a tricky one. Could just be duff gauges need replacing but 4 not working sounds more like wiring issue to me, just depends on how well the wiring is marked up in the car. Could take a days work or could take a month.
4.Door letting in water. Could be just the rubbers need replacing, but if it was that simple I think it would have been done already.
5.Bolt the seats in where they suit you,or fit runners. Not a big job.
These are just my views so take them with a pinch of salt. Best thing to do would be to give the car a thorough looking over and a decent test drive or take someone with you who knows these cars.
he also said the fuel sender in the tank was a bit vauge,
the price is i think between 9-10 k, it makes your old car mac a steal!
iam still keen on your old car but he won't go no lower that £ 13,000, i know you think thats steep but its a nice, well kept car with no issues.
nick franks on here has a yellow gts with a alfa v6 for sale soon, i think he wants about that price too.
Hi Dave, I guess it depends on how you look at it. There's no better way to learn about a kit than to roll your sleeves up and fix all it's problems, but on the other hand you may want to drive it more than you work on it!!! Seems like this particular car has been a bit neglected, which leads you to think what else you may uncover as time goes by. By the looks of things I might have been able to get a bit more for my old Dino, but I like value for money and don't like ripping people off. If given the choice I would go for one that has the Alfa V6 fitted, for the extra grunt. Might be worth having a look at Nick's when it becomes available. The trouble is it's all about supply and demand at the end of the day, and there arn't many decent Dino Reps that come up for sale too often. Which then allows sellers to ask for an inflated price. Again, these are just my personal thoughts so take them with a pinch of salt.
Best Regards, Mac.