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Geoff's 250 SWB Replica Build

27 Mar 2015, 12:46pm
redratbike wrote:
why stay true to the original...nice bit of photoshop


heres how it does looks in real life

27 Mar 2015, 7:47pm
redratbike wrote:
heres how it does looks in real life


I think the whole restomod thing is definitely the right way to go. Maybe Halibrand style wheels rather than wires and maybe they're a tad too big lol!

But I gotta say....I think it looks bloody awesome in black :)
27 Mar 2015, 10:47pm
smash wrote:
I think the whole restomod thing is definitely the right way to go. Maybe Halibrand style wheels rather than wires and maybe they're a tad too big lol!

But I gotta say....I think it looks bloody awesome in black :)
here you go

29 Mar 2015, 8:48pm
Tribute Automotive wrote:



My original choice of Classic Mini door handles has proved problematic when connecting the Mini lock/key mechanism to the Z3 door latch unit. Changing the linear movement of 15mm in the mini lock (at 45 degrees when mounted of the SWB door skin) to the 40mm vertical movement required at the Z3 internal latch using cantilevers working in a reversed ratio (small movement to large) has given an unreliable solution. So, a new solution has hopefully been found with these handles and there attached mechanisms:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400368255999?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They are readily available at reasonable cost, look period and that fact that they are Italian is a bonus!

I will update once I have test fitted one.
29 Mar 2015, 8:59pm
Good evening , any body want to buy a set of classic MINI door handles? :icon_smile: never raced or rallied! Geoff .
29 Mar 2015, 9:11pm
casamolino wrote:
Good evening , any body want to buy a set of classic MINI door handles? :icon_smile: never raced or rallied! Geoff .


I was going to fit the Alfa handles to your car Geoff, so happy to take the Mini ones you provided in Part exchange :yo:. The Mini boot handle works just fine.

GTO Engineering can sell you a pair of repro ones:

http://www.gtoengineering.com/products/chrome-outer-door-handles-swb-et00122n

I hate to think what they cost!

A60 Austin handles are nice but don't think the mechanisms will work, as the Mini ones:

http://www.bmcfarina.com/contents/en-uk/d163_Rear_Door.html
29 Mar 2015, 9:20pm
I thought that some of you might be interested in a new offering from Simpson designs. It's only available as a turnkey build from him. His price STARTS at $95,000 USD and you provide the Mazda NC for the donor!!

It makes me appreciate Chris's work even more!

30 Mar 2015, 7:56am
Thanks Chris , Geoff .
30 Mar 2015, 10:42am
Tribute Automotive wrote:

GTO Engineering can sell you a pair of repro ones:

http://www.gtoengineering.com/products/chrome-outer-door-handles-swb-et00122n

I hate to think what they cost!

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Here you are Chris, I found these on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151138514761?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
They are also available from Alfaholics in the UK.
Problem is they are for a left hand drive car so the lock is on the passenger door for a UK car. Not sure if the buttons are interchangeable.
30 Mar 2015, 2:18pm
Door handles

For those interested in historical accuracy, I got this genuine 275GTB handle from "new old stock" via ebay, sadly, they only had one. Note the Ferrari had a separate key mounted on the driver's door only.

Bearing in mind the need to match the Z3 door mechanism, I found these "new old stock" (no more left)
31 Mar 2015, 7:07am
Tribute Automotive wrote:
My original choice of Classic Mini door handles has proved problematic when connecting the Mini lock/key mechanism to the Z3 door latch unit. Changing the linear movement of 15mm in the mini lock (at 45 degrees when mounted of the SWB door skin) to the 40mm vertical movement required at the Z3 internal latch using cantilevers working in a reversed ratio (small movement to large) has given an unreliable solution. So, a new solution has hopefully been found with these handles and there attached mechanisms:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400368255999?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They are readily available at reasonable cost, look period and that fact that they are Italian is a bonus!

I will update once I have test fitted one.


Any update on the Alfa door handle front? Have you managed to get them to work yet? Only I can source a pair locally and am champing at the bit to buy them...
4 Apr 2015, 10:52am
What is needed from the bonnet of the z3 ...hinges and latches????

Is the inner bonnet frame needed ???

Come across a few front damaged cars at good prices that would be ideal for conversion.
4 Apr 2015, 7:45pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Any update on the Alfa door handle front? Have you managed to get them to work yet? Only I can source a pair locally and am champing at the bit to buy them...


I have only gotten as far as to mount one handle on temporary brackets to judge how things will work. Everything is backwards in relation to the location of the Z3 mechanism, meaning swapping handles from side to side and adding some fabricated levers to the Alfa workings to reverse their action and move the connecting rods above the Z3 gubbins:



I am almost certainly positive that they might work, maybe. Just hedging my bets there.
4 Apr 2015, 7:49pm
redratbike wrote:
What is needed from the bonnet of the z3 ...hinges and latches????

Is the inner bonnet frame needed ???

Come across a few front damaged cars at good prices that would be ideal for conversion.


The double skinned GRP front section of the SWB kit comes fitted with captive bolts/nuts that require the standard Z3 bonnet hinges and latches to be retained, but the Z3 bonnet can be sold off if in good condition.
4 Apr 2015, 10:51pm
Tribute Automotive wrote:
The double skinned GRP front section of the SWB kit comes fitted with captive bolts/nuts that require the standard Z3 bonnet hinges and latches to be retained, but the Z3 bonnet can be sold off if in good condition.


Thanks Chris
5 Apr 2015, 6:01am
Tribute Automotive wrote:
I have only gotten as far as to mount one handle on temporary brackets to judge how things will work. Everything is backwards in relation to the location of the Z3 mechanism, meaning swapping handles from side to side and adding some fabricated levers to the Alfa workings to reverse their action and move the connecting rods above the Z3 gubbins:



I am almost certainly positive that they might work, maybe. Just hedging my bets there.


Sounds good to me. After all, a probable certainty of possible satisfactory operation is a solid gold guarantee in the specialist car world.

More importantly they look the part. If all else fails I'll just fit them for the style they'll impart and bung a wrought iron hasp and padlock on for access and security. After all, with no IVA to worry about I can pretty much do what I like! :rockon:

(...and before I get any disgusted from Braintree posts about safety, I'm joking about the hasp). :yield:

Oh, and I also thought that if the mechanism won't play ball I could always go with solenoid locks/door release with a hidden mechanical override in case of battery flatness. Just a thought.
5 Apr 2015, 7:15am
And what's wrong with a wrought iron hasp and padlock? Most Transits have them, especially white ones. :icon_wink:
24 Apr 2015, 7:56am
Door handle and door skin

Take a look at my thread on F275gtb/z3 for an alternative solution. The reverse curve at the top of the door made it impossible to lay the 275 panel on top so I have removed the door skin completely (apart from the area around the handle in order to locate the actuating mechanism).
5 May 2015, 3:57pm
Finalised side window frames will be show in the next few days. They are bolted to the Z3 doors and will include double channel rubber seals, Land Rover latches and toughened glass.[/QUOTE]

Hi Chris,Your frames look very good if you are thinking of making them in aluminium this might be useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doVIQ4y29NE
5 May 2015, 4:23pm
andyrp26 wrote:
Finalised side window frames will be show in the next few days. They are bolted to the Z3 doors and will include double channel rubber seals, Land Rover latches and toughened glass.


Hi Chris,Your frames look very good if you are thinking of making them in aluminium this might be useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doVIQ4y29NE[/QUOTE]

Very interesting. Thank you.
7 May 2015, 10:10pm
I have been asked by several customers to compile a list of basic items required to build an SWB, The following are examples, there are limitations on the size of rear lights due to body recesses and we have set the kit up for Mini door handles, but all other items are down to personal choice:


7" Headlights with side lights + buckets

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/7--headlight-assembly-with-side/



Chrome headlight trims, MAKE SURE THEY ARE THE TAPERED TYPE

http://www.retroclassiccarparts.com/headlamp-rim-for-triumph-tr



Rear lights

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/l539-lucas-stop---tail--pair-/

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/l539-lucas-indicator--pair-/



Front indicators CLEAR LENSES WITH AMBER BULBS REQUIRED

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/l594-lucas-clear-lens-indicator--pair-/



Side repeaters (front wing). Example for style, but your choice

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-FIAT-500-FIAT-600-PAIR-WING-REPEATER-INDICATOR-LAMP-/231293818301?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35da2f95bd



Fog light Example, your choice. REVERSING LIGHT TO MATCH? NOT REQUIRED FOR MOT

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/1253-rear-fog-/



Reflectors. Example of period correct for SWB, but your choice

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/lucas-rectangle-reflectors--pair-/



Washer jets

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-CHROME-WASHER-JETS-x2-TWIN-PAIR-AUSTIN-ROVER-COOPER-998-1275-5L2-/281412685000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item418580ccc8



Numberplate lights x2

http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/550-type-no--plate-lamp--frogeye/



NUMBERPLATES: UK STANDARD SIZE, OBLONG FRONT + SQUARER REAR

Mini boot handle

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-CHROME-DOOR-HANDLE-SET-WITH-KEYS-MK3-ONWARDS-CZH1785-EXHS-/121573064173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c4e51bded



Bonnet pins, Example

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BONNET-PIN-SET-HEAVY-DUTY-CHROME-PLATED-/111381557480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19eedbb0e8