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Deed is done!

8 Jan 2016, 3:43pm
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*I have decided to cut down my drinking for January to pay for the paint job on my Z300SWB bonnet. This explains my confession. Normal ranting will be resumed when I am back on the booze.
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Bloody Hell Nick you must get through a lot of the sauce !!
8 Jan 2016, 5:12pm
Lucky@LeMans wrote:
I thought we were all being nice to each other now!

I'm not sure if the 1.9 conversion would give you enough space or not.

Yes you could convert the 1.9 to a straight 6 but it would be loads of work by the time everything is connected up. Just bite the bullet and buy a straight 6 from the word go!!


Sorry, should've made myself clearer - the suggestion to fit a straight six into a 1.9 was in response to a question about narrowing the back end to accommodate splined wires while ending up with a car with the (more desirable) six cylinder motor rather than a criticism of the 1.9 engine.

Despite the obvious risk of it all being a bit of a ballache, I have a gut feeling that changing a 1.9's engine (and gearbox?) for a six pot is going to be easier and more likely to have been tried and tested than swapping the rear axle assembly. After all, there are a number of Z3's on you-know-what-tube running BMW or American V8 motors if you must have the full wind in the ponytail experience. Just watch out for the ground clearance and traction on your kitchen floor issues it creates though... -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH8t5tY5xEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0dQ7AYYARQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXvLcVv3Rmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWAJD_Kyjnc

Mind you, I still think a six pot sounds better. ;)
10 Jan 2016, 1:34pm
Turrino have come back on their "stock" jag wheels

We can supply the 7 x 16 Jag bolt on wire wheels for £310 + VAT in chrome, or £410 + VAT each in stainless. They have an inset of 22mm.

So actually slightly cheaper than MWS.

Third email attempt to Dayton....
10 Jan 2016, 5:18pm
smash wrote:
Turrino have come back on their "stock" jag wheels

We can supply the 7 x 16 Jag bolt on wire wheels for £310 + VAT in chrome, or £410 + VAT each in stainless. They have an inset of 22mm.

So actually slightly cheaper than MWS.

Third email attempt to Dayton....


That sounds like a good price, and with an offset only an inch more than standard they should fit within the arches.

I had a quote for 17" wheels from Dayton about a year ago that was more than the Turrino quote. I'll see if I can find it.
10 Jan 2016, 5:21pm
Found a quote from a March last year for 7x17" Truespoke with spinners - not Dayton as I thought - at $650 each plus carriage from the States, so Turrino sounds cheaper.
11 Jan 2016, 11:52am
Well I've taken a deep breath and amended my excel spreadsheet to budget for 2k on wheels - at the end of the day they're a massive part of the overall appearance and impact of the vehicle.

I am however, no longer scrolling down to the total at the bottom!!
11 Jan 2016, 12:56pm
smash wrote:
I am however, no longer scrolling down to the total at the bottom!!


I find the Excel 'hide' command useful in such circumstances :wink:
11 Jan 2016, 12:58pm
If a used set comes up I'll be all over them but ultimately that's the cost of full stainless - I don't want to be worried about keeping chrome dry! Budgeting for worse case scenario. What will you use for your NEC show car? The curlys and adaptors?

Anyway, shouldn't you be building my car? :D
11 Jan 2016, 10:12pm
Dayton came back finally $640 per wheel so it's Turino or MWS...
12 Jan 2016, 5:03pm
I am using reverse lace appliance wheels that look similar to borranis, can take a photo if you need. We have them all over ebay US, maybe you can find a set to ship to the UK? I paid $300 for a set in mint shape.

edit, here you go

"ships to: worldwide"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-APPLIANCE-CHROME-WIRE-WHEELS-14X6-5-BOLT-4-3-4-BC-GM-CHEVROLET-GTO-442-/371294394971?hash=item5672deda5b:g:YwoAAOSwrklVGWZJ&vxp=mtr

I have seen 15" frequently if you're after those instead.
12 Jan 2016, 5:56pm
275NART wrote:
I am using reverse lace appliance wheels that look similar to borranis, can take a photo if you need. We have them all over ebay US, maybe you can find a set to ship to the UK? I paid $300 for a set in mint shape.

edit, here you go

"ships to: worldwide"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-APPLIANCE-CHROME-WIRE-WHEELS-14X6-5-BOLT-4-3-4-BC-GM-CHEVROLET-GTO-442-/371294394971?hash=item5672deda5b:g:YwoAAOSwrklVGWZJ&vxp=mtr

I have seen 15" frequently if you're after those instead.


Nice, but $800 postage and packing plus import duty and vat makes them a bit pricey on this side of the pond.
12 Jan 2016, 10:55pm
Ah! So that's what you're up to!

Looking forward to seeing this one develop. We need pictures!!

GUMBALL
12 Jan 2016, 11:34pm
Can't believe I've been stalked lol! You going to LM Classic?
13 Jan 2016, 8:08am
I'm behind you!!

Yes, going to the classic. Can't miss that - it's compulsory!
13 Jan 2016, 8:46am
I have a couple of customers going to Le Mans, perhaps we could get a convoy going? I want to go in my red Kali. Interior will be done also.

You could be 'little duck' (as they dont have any wheels either, LOL)
13 Jan 2016, 12:47pm
You would never guess it but I'm a big fan of the LeMans Classic !

Hope to be there this year , not sure what I'll be driving but I should be able to do a long weekend. I can recommend the camp site at La Fleche , about 15 miles south of the circuit. Usually lots of classic owners stay there as the facilities on the circuit leave a lot to be desired and the camping municipal is very good. Even has a swimming pool etc !
13 Jan 2016, 2:37pm
How much did the whole trip cost you last time you went?
13 Jan 2016, 10:25pm
Depends which crossing you make , the tunnel works out the best deal ( we use Tesco vouchers to pay for it ).Otherwise about £140 ish.

But it is a longer drive for most so more fuel.

Diesel is much cheaper in France , petrol about the same . £25 diesel each way from Calais to LeMans.

If you use motorway on the French side ( about 30 Euros in Tolls ) it is easy to do the distance in a day so you don't have to worry about an overnight stop. Again , depends how far you have gone on the UK side.

Camping Municipal at La Fleche, I think it was about £15 / night.

Basic weekend LeMans ticket was about £85 last time I went. You can pay extra if you want to go around the pits or have a stand seat. I never bother with that as there is so much to see anyway! There are many better viewing areas other than the stands too.

Don't bother with a parking ticket , there is a secret place you can park for free all weekend ( pm me ! ).

Other than that , food a drink , extra fuel for blatting around ! The roads around that area are great ! Drive the circuit if you are there earlier in the week , most of it is public road !


Good luck , hope to see you there !
13 Jan 2016, 11:29pm
Just checked some prices;

Tunnel Crossing Approx £59 each way (Short Stay Saver Ticket, upto 5 days)

LeMans Classic Tickets Weekend 53 Euro
Paddock Pass 35 Euro ( optional )
Grand Stand Seat 35 Euro ( optional )

Camping La Fleche Approx 9 Euro / Night
14 Jan 2016, 9:55am
Excellent! perhaps we should start a e mans Classic thread so anyone going can book same eurotunnel etc?

Back to the wheels....emailed MWS this morning and got responses within 10 minutes. Rang and spoke to Craig and he was excellent. Shocked at weight of 16x7 stainless bolt on.....16.8kg - that's a lot of unsprung weight. Bit of discount on offer for a set and one the shelf ready to go out. Would need spiggots to adopt bore. Interestingly he said that in terms of going centre lock Dayton would be least track affecting option due to them using key drive on hub adaptor allowing the wheel to sit back further.
14 Jan 2016, 10:03am
Like I showed you on the Dayton 17" ones I have. We should have the new splined hubs shortly. They are 13mm shorter.
14 Jan 2016, 10:19am
AHHH! I thought they were bolt ons, not centre lock! Doh...
21 Jan 2016, 12:54pm
Nubodi Automotive wrote:
We have just commissioned some shorter splined hubs to fit with E-type 'curly hub' wheels. These will fit under the arches okay. You do have to use shallow head wheel boots though but no big deal.
I only have a photo of the first attempt which stuck out about 2", but you can imagine the revised ones just shorter. Unfortunately they are made by the best hub engineering company in the land, so do not come cheap.
They cost £595 a set of four. Most can only be safe up to 150BHP these will go to 300BHP. It seems a shame to cover them up!



Any news or photos with the short hub adaptors ?