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Sammio Chevaux in France

1 Sep 2013, 8:21am
Magnifique 2cvSammio!

Bonjour Zebre! Great to see another 2cv project!!!! Nice solutions and very high standard built I must say,
I have put my 2cv Sammio project on it yesterday - look forward to share experiences,



Marcel - the Netherlands
1 Sep 2013, 9:08am
I'm fascinated by the 2CV donor concept and wondered if a bike engine might add some zing to the car.

I believe there are a couple of three wheelers that use the Citroen gearbox mated to a Moto Guzzi motor, so I googled it.

Take a look at this, which looks like it would be pretty simple to achieve once you see how they've carried out the conversion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjqvW6oif8

:) :) :)
1 Sep 2013, 8:28pm
Modified engine

I do not know about France, but in the Netherlands we are very limited in making changes to a vehicle. Basically you can only change one of the three major components: Body, engine or chassis. Whichever one you change, it needs to go through the very strict MOT. I have seen Guzzi's, BMW engine on 2cv but in Holland it is illegal. So with unibody concepts as nowadays the standard, we cannot make any kitcar from it. Only vehicles with a separate chassis

Also you cannot increase horsepower with more then 40% -

So all UK builders - you are quite lucky!
2 Sep 2013, 6:01am
Mars'69 wrote:
Bonjour Zebre! Great to see another 2cv project!!!! Nice solutions and very high standard built I must say,
I have put my 2cv Sammio project on it yesterday - look forward to share experiences,..


Thanks for the compliment michiel. You have done a very good job also !!

my job during this WE :
My last parts :

air filter :



And my headlamps : LUCAS P700 7" LHD :


I have shose the emplacement of my rear lamps :




and I've work on the bonnet :





That's all folks !
2 Sep 2013, 7:12am
Excellent work!

Great to see more cars coming together.
2 Sep 2013, 7:41am
Nice. Are you able to keep the UK registration plate? That'll add to the mystique and keep your countrymen guessing!
2 Sep 2013, 4:59pm
Hi Zebre, You make terrific progress. Things are working out. I like the tripods (I have them on the shelves waiting). Have you any idea on the colour? Or is this too soon. I changed my own preference a 1000 times.....

Michiel
2 Sep 2013, 5:15pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Nice. Are you able to keep the UK registration plate? That'll add to the mystique and keep your countrymen guessing!


No this plate is only here to help me when I have done the holes for the rear lamps. I made a collection of registration numbers all over the world.

I ve got yet french registration but in fact we can't drive that kind of car with our legislation. I have a registration paper with the mention «modified» at the column body. I will drive the car like that. All burton cars runs with nederlands numbers in france. I know zero burton with regular registration french paper.

Christinedmc, my car will be red indeed! :flame:
3 Sep 2013, 6:55pm
airfilter

Hi Zebre,

You are flying, what à progress! I like the airfilter you plan to use. Where did you get this? It's lower than mine and has the right oval shape to put in the shape of the bonnet scoop.
Look forward to see your bonnet hinge solution, I think we need to support the hinge mounting points quite a bit as the bonnet is not very strong at the front.

salut,
Marcel
4 Sep 2013, 5:21am
Hello Marcel !

For the bonnet, I will use the front door's hinges (like the belgium protoype, I'm in contcat with the owner) I will show you some pictures but these 2 hinges are parfect for this use.

For the air filter, you can find this part at CIPERE ("Der Franzose Automobiltechnik Gmbh").
http://www.cipere.fr/fr/Citroen-2CV/Alle/Luftfilter/ANR10027/

I will try to make the steel circle this week around the grille.
4 Sep 2013, 12:28pm
That is looking very nice indeed. I think I will spend the extra and get P700s for my project.
Will be going to Goodwood Revival soon and no doubt pick up some bits from the many stalls that are there.
Keep up the good work.
4 Sep 2013, 2:11pm
Thanks slartibartfast, you will not be disappointed with these lights P700 LUCAS !
4 Sep 2013, 2:16pm
slartibartfast wrote:
That is looking very nice indeed. I think I will spend the extra and get P700s for my project.
Will be going to Goodwood Revival soon and no doubt pick up some bits from the many stalls that are there.
Keep up the good work.


Beaulieu Autojumble this weekend too...
7 Sep 2013, 8:30pm
Sebastien - Merci for the airfilter info! - I think it will be a better solution as mine and will order it. By the way, I'm very curious how the Burton wheels will look. I wanted to go for wire wheels, but they are about 7kg heavier (adapters are heavy) which is a lot and will make a difference in handling. I'm just not sure how the burton wheels will look under the sammio. The Burton wheels are a lot cheaper as well...
8 Sep 2013, 7:58pm
I wanted to buy wire weels but they are very expensive with the adaptator in comparaison with burton weels..

My burton weels are waiting their aluminium colors and when I will bring back my weels I will make pictures.
10 Sep 2013, 5:53pm
Hello Sebastien,

Can you get me the contact details of the Belgium Sammio 2CV builder - I want to check about the wire wheels - how his experience is with these. You mentioned you are in contact with him..

Thanks,

Marcel
11 Sep 2013, 5:51am
Ok I will ask him before and after I will give you the contact.

Few news !




I've work on the bonnet :

Otherwise, I got two hinges of my donor to serve as a hinge bonnet. The proto sammio 2CV is so fitted and is the best solution ! The hinges will be connected with a bar.





I've cut the alternator's fixations :


And I've done the circle for the bonnet (plate 30*3).





And I've work a little on the body (mastic)
11 Sep 2013, 6:07am
Looking good Sebastien.
Are you going to use bonding paste to glue the 30x3mm ring into te body?

michiel
12 Sep 2013, 7:25pm
hinges

Hi Sebastien,

Looks great - I do not have these hinges anymore, but will get some, this is a very good solution - and easy!

I have very little time at the moment to work on the car unfortunately as I'm traveling a lot. Off course I'll follow your progress but it looks like you will be done before winter!
Bonne nuit,

Marcel
14 Sep 2013, 7:35am
Sebastian

Many thanks for the photos of your bonnet hinge solution, we have been struggling for ever to try and make a concealed hinge work on the G46 door and you have presented the solution.

Purchase a set of 2CV hinges yesterday and I am sure they will solve our problem!

Marcel

If you are looking for doors hinges we purchased them from

[email]classic2cvrecyling@hotmail.co.uk[/email]
14 Sep 2013, 10:42pm
You could keep it Scimitar and use the boot or bonnet hinges from an SS1 - they look very similar to those 2CV hinges.
15 Sep 2013, 6:00pm
Be careful, the top hinge and bottom hinge are different. I have chose the little ones witch are the bottom hinges but you can use the top hinges also a little bigger. You only have to find a pair.
2 Oct 2013, 8:43am
I'm always working on the bonnet, difficult to do on a 2CV base. The same work on a triumph base is very eaysier to do I think...

I will done some pictures when my job will be done. Be quiet !!

:welcome: Best regards !
2 Oct 2013, 9:38am
At least your hinges are in place already... that looks much easier:eyebrows:
3 Feb 2014, 9:27am
Hello everyone !

Good news for my SAMMIO CHEVAUX :

I've work on the project during 8 months but I've stop the job since the begining of september because I've made a lot of work in my house.


This WE, I've work on the bonnet with friends to help me. Very difficult job done in 2.30 Hours non stop.


Lets go for some pictures now !

Le bonnet now adapted at the car !



Back view :


My brand new wheels :




Just for fun and to see the wheels on the car ! The front one first !




and the back one !



Few view :




And with the sun is better !




I've bought all teh instrumentation provided from "Burton company".


Test on the futur dashboard:


Best regards !