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Oxford build

14 Sep 2012, 10:27am
Spare time is proving elusive at the moment so I am trying to keep momentum and spirits up by doing small tasks that mean that things will be ready when production begins.

Yesterday I fired up the Bunny Blaster Cabinet and cleaned up a few more items.



Before



10 minutes after


I left the old pipes in place to protect the internals and to give me something to hang on to as I blasted.

Tonight I shall strip them bare and give them a coat of BS318c-217 caliper paint. Tomorrow I shall fit new pistons, seals and nipples.

Apologies for slightly boring post, but it is designed to convince me that I am making continual progress, no matter how slow.

Mind you, I've managed to work-in the words "strip them bare", "nipples" and "give me something to hang on to" in a single post. As I said before, I know this car better than I knew some previous girlfriends.
14 Sep 2012, 6:36pm
oxford1360 wrote:
... Apologies for slightly boring post, but it is designed to convince me that I am making continual progress, no matter how slow...


That is the same approach I use on my own build thread.

If I had more time, I'd make more progress, but as long as I'm making some progress with the little time I have I can live with that.

All the prep. work you are doing will mean your Sammio is going to look like a new build. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)
14 Sep 2012, 7:57pm
I love the detailed posts, it will help me to remember what to do...
21 Sep 2012, 7:58pm
I needed to remove the top spring plates from the original springs/dampers so that I can give them a clean and prime tomorrow.

I was pleased to see that the new springs are shorter than the originals. However, that colour will have to go. Shame, because it's a lovely finish.

21 Sep 2012, 8:29pm
They look great! What's wrong with the finish? I'd be well chuffed with those springs.
21 Sep 2012, 8:36pm
They're bloody red! I'm on my strictly sea green policy. The bushes I have are orange which is bad enough, so I can't have red as well. As I said, it's a shame............that I have become obsessed.
21 Sep 2012, 10:32pm
I wouldn't worry about it. I sprayed mine silver, but that was about nine months ago now and they're beginning to turn to a russet rust colour already. Tres authentique...
27 Sep 2012, 10:54am
Quick update - seized calipers

Stripping the calipers was more effort than I anticipated - there's a surprise.

The pistons did not want to budge despite the application of some lubricant and the introduction of compressed air. At this point, I could have given up and parted with £100 on some refurbs from Canley.

I don't like being defeated so I looked at YouTube and trawled online and followed this advice.

Fit a grease nipple to where the pipe enters the caliper and pump away with your grease gun. Bingo, all four pistons out within an hour.

OK, the calipers now need a thorough clean to remove old fluid and grease and a good drying with the air line, but that's not a problem. The calipers look great and I have new seals and pistons to go in.

I shall let you know how they respond when put under pressure.
27 Sep 2012, 1:15pm
"despite the application of some lubricant and the introduction of compressed air......." :eyebrows:


Been reading 50 shades of Grey have we sir? :)
27 Sep 2012, 3:26pm
50 Sheds of Grey is more me.
2 Oct 2012, 3:06pm
Progress

Right, lots of pictures to keep WCA distracted and to give those nurses a break.

I've spent a couple of days down at The Glade to try and push things along. But, before I did, I put a coat of HT paint on the calipers.



Yesterday, I did the final priming of suspension parts.







I then went home with a smile on my face and began to dream of applying colour.

This morning I levered the lid from the tin and it was exactly as I imagined (BS318C-217).

A few hours later I had this to show for my labours -









And.......







I'm a happy boy. One of those special days when you think, yup, one day this will be finished.

Still a fair bit of spraying to go - more suspension parts plus the underside of the chassis - but I am now confident with the spray gun.

I am really impressed with the paint - it's very forgiving.

Tonight I shall return and tidy up the monumental mess I made. As I do so, I shall be smiling.
2 Oct 2012, 3:18pm
Excellent work, O. Its going to look like a real production car!
2 Oct 2012, 4:24pm
Looking good. Is that going to be your body colour too?
2 Oct 2012, 4:38pm
Mister Towed wrote:
Looking good. Is that going to be your body colour too?


Yes, everything will be this colour - including shockers, springs, engine and drive train. The only contrast will be the orange bushes.

It's probably a bit lighter than some tastes. I was pretty sure I would like it once it was on, and I must say, I love it.

As mentioned before, I may have a cream/buttermilk nose-band around the radiator intake, but not sure on that yet.

I am toying with going for silver-grey 15" "Dunlop" steel wheels rather than wires. This will require some adapters from the States. Undecided as yet, but the idea is growing.
2 Oct 2012, 4:47pm
oxford1360 wrote:
Yes, everything will be this colour - including shockers, springs, engine and drive train. The only contrast will be the orange bushes.

It's probably a bit lighter than some tastes. I was pretty sure I would like it once it was on, and I must say, I love it.

As mentioned before, I may have a cream/buttermilk nose-band around the radiator intake, but not sure on that yet.

I am toying with going for silver-grey 15" "Dunlop" steel wheels rather than wires. This will require some adapters from the States. Undecided as yet, but the idea is growing.


We would love Dunlop wheels aren't hey even copies hugely expensive?
2 Oct 2012, 4:50pm
Charman.tech wrote:
We would love Dunlop wheels aren't hey even copies hugely expensive?


Yes, I've seen prices of £1,500 per corner for copies.

Just give me a few days while I try some things out. I may have a neat(ish) solution that could work out cheaper than a set of adapters for 14" wire wheels.
3 Oct 2012, 5:36am
oxford1360 wrote:
Yes, I've seen prices of £1,500 per corner for copies.

Just give me a few days while I try some things out. I may have a neat(ish) solution that could work out cheaper than a set of adapters for 14" wire wheels.


Have you looked at these copies ?

http://www.realmengineering.com/dunlop%20style%20wheels.html
3 Oct 2012, 7:38am
Wow, they look like fantastic value. How would you get them on the Triumph or Reliant hubs though? There isn't much information on the site about PCD's, adaptors etc. Looking at the pictures I guess they're Jag five bolt or Jag large splined fitment only.

I suppose it's possible to have the hubs/drums redrilled to suit, or a set of adaptor plates fabricated. Worth thinking about though - although I'm happy with my MGB wires my original intention was to find some Dunlop replicas, but I couldn't find any that would fit or were in my price range of cheap as chips.

Great find though. :ranger:
3 Oct 2012, 8:11am
They are lovely but still £450+ per corner to fit a Triumph hub.

Just to be clear, what I am planning is a combination of after market items that will be reminiscent of 15" Dunlops. They will be to Dunlops, what a Sammio is to a Lancia D24.
3 Oct 2012, 8:29am


I had looked at the pdf, but I missed the 'peg drive, bespoke hubs' option. With spinners and VAT you're looking at just shy of £2,500 for a car set. That's cheaper than most I've seen but seven times what I spent on five used MG wires with new splined adaptors. Plus, if I break a wire wheel, brand new ones are only £99 each from the MGB hive in Wisbech, twenty minutes drive away from me.

They'd look great on the car though. Now, where's my lottery ticket...
3 Oct 2012, 8:44am
oxford1360 wrote:
They are lovely but still £450+ per corner to fit a Triumph hub.

Just to be clear, what I am planning is a combination of after market items that will be reminiscent of 15" Dunlops. They will be to Dunlops, what a Sammio is to a Lancia D24.


I can't wait to see what you've got planned. My original idea was to reuse the 13" late Triumph Spitfire wheels that came with my Vitesse, fitting them with dummy spinners, 175/80/13 tyres to give them a larger rolling diameter and wide-band white walls to make the wheel look bigger.

Eventually, the look of the wires won me over. The adaptors push the wheels out to fill the arches better. The standard Triumph wheels sit much further in, which isn't a complete stylistic disaster as they look quite like the original narrow wheels fitted to early Porsche 356's before wider tyres became available -



That's the best picture I could find of an original before everyone retro-fitted 911 steels to them in the sixties.

Other ideas included having some adaptors made to take TR6 steels, but then the wires snuck up and sold themselves to me.

So come on, let's see the wheels you're going with, we're waiting... :eyebrows:
3 Oct 2012, 9:03am
I hadn't realised how much wheels cost until reading this thread and looking about a bit.

I wonder if I can get away with some Halford plastic wheel trims and a spray paint?
3 Oct 2012, 9:10am
As Mr T says, it's possible to get a set of wires and adapters for under £300 if you shop carefully.

I love the look of spokes but I am hoping to do a few hillclimbs in mine and I will be more comfortable with steels. Who knows, I may hate them and replace with wires.
3 Oct 2012, 9:12am
oxford1360 wrote:
...I am hoping to do a few hillclimbs in mine and I will be more comfortable with steels.


Hill climbs you say. Have you seen a topographical map of Norfolk? Raised kerbs make us flatlanders go a bit light headed. :(