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Garyh's Sammio build

13 May 2012, 8:23pm
I started to shotblast some parts today, and strip down the head.

Question
The rockers look worn? but can any of the mechanics out there tell me if they are too worn!

Should i replace the whole rocker assembly as i am reuilding the head.
14 May 2012, 5:30am
second rocker from the left is fubar'ed! i think a new rocker assembley would be on the cards if it was my build, if that one has got that bad the hardened surface of the others will not be far behind so changing just the one would imho be a false economy
14 May 2012, 8:06am
Excellent reply, I've seen that Canleys do a complete assembly, thanks, V.
14 May 2012, 8:15am
Yep spotted those and the price is good too for a complete assembly
14 May 2012, 9:08am
Anybody know if they do higher ratio rockers for a little extra lift?
15 May 2012, 1:38pm
Roller bearing tappets...

Mister Towed wrote:
Anybody know if they do higher ratio rockers for a little extra lift?

MOSS seem to do the sort of thing you're asking about. But one thing leads to another, and you'd end up spending a lot of money when you could easily buy a ford duratec with gearbox for a lot less.
15 May 2012, 1:49pm
I am a bit bored today, so i thought i would look at how i will do the floors and bulkhead.

Andy, i have used one of your photos as it gave me all the points of reference. So its going to be 18mm ply with dropped foot/floor wells... it would be interesting to hear if the pedals are still ok? as when sitting i think your feet approach from a different angle, especially the throttle. The drop in the floors will be made up of complete panels routed to match the one above, basically laminated to the depth i want. Not sure hat to coat in or should i tape all the joints with fibreglass matting? Once the floors are in place, i will bolt the frame in and build the bulkhead to fit. So, what do you think?
15 May 2012, 5:02pm
Looks good! Although remember that the 'std' footwells attached to the bulkhead are recessed anyway so i can't see there being any pedal problems. Are you not going to reuse those front footwells?
15 May 2012, 5:40pm
garyh wrote:
MOSS seem to do the sort of thing you're asking about. But one thing leads to another, and you'd end up spending a lot of money when you could easily buy a ford duratec with gearbox for a lot less.


Swap my glorious straight six for a four cylinder Ford engine? Sorry, I think I need to go and sit down I feel so faint. :eusa_sick:
15 May 2012, 6:12pm
If you're planning to put sliders on the seat bases it'd be a good idea to slope the rear floorpans so they're level with the edge of the outrigger at the front. Otherwise the vertical face at the front will seriously limit the seat travel forwards.

Here's how mine evolved -





16 May 2012, 8:14am
davecymru wrote:
Looks good! Although remember that the 'std' footwells attached to the bulkhead are recessed anyway so i can't see there being any pedal problems. Are you not going to reuse those front footwells?


Morning Dave, i am looking forward to doing some woodwork as i don't want to waste time on a rotten bulkhead. Also i could sell the 2 new footwells for more than a couple of sheets of marine ply, to make the box behind seats as others have done, plus a boot above rear outriggers.:becky:
6 Jun 2012, 7:25pm
I have finally finished patching up the rear outriggers, i know some of what i have done won't be needed, but i thought it was a good place to practise welding. Tomorrow i turn the chassis upside down and start on the passenger side main chassis rail, which seems to have rot all the way round.

7 Jun 2012, 8:58pm
Another good day in the garage, a couple more patches done and making up templates for the more complecated chassis rail



I can't believe that i might be able to paint the chassis soon. Well, once i have welded all of the chassis rails and outrigers back on...
7 Jun 2012, 9:06pm
Looking good. One day you'll look back with pride at what you've achieved with that rotten old chassis. :becky:
7 Jun 2012, 10:24pm
I must admit T, I am enjoying it especially now i can weld...ish. Its all sticking together!
8 Jun 2012, 6:22am
That's the important thing! You're the same as me with welding, it may not look 'pro' but its structurally sound and with a bit of grinding it'll look fine!
8 Jun 2012, 6:32am
Hi Dave, I thought your welding was good! You even made your footwells, lots of welding.
8 Jun 2012, 8:54am
I'm with you on this one. Cutting and shaping bits of metal when I spend my usual day sat at a computer is brilliantly rewarding. And, developing skills such as welding is a definite Sammio-dividend. My chassis may not be the smartest, but it could survive a nuclear strike.
8 Jun 2012, 9:57am
Cheers Gary :) i won't for one minute say that I'm a 'good' welder as i've only been doing it for about 2 years. But i can stick bits of metal together and then set things on fire (hair, skin, coveralls etc.) grinding the welds to look good, so that'll do for now. Although hopefully with less fire as i get better.

oxford1360 wrote:
Cutting and shaping bits of metal when I spend my usual day sat at a computer is brilliantly rewarding.


COMPLETELY agree! During my build i even took the occasionally day off when i was really stressed and spent it at home in the garage as i found that making actual real, physical "stuff" was really rewarding and really stress relieving.
8 Jun 2012, 12:26pm
A year ago I was going to have to pay someone else to make a bonnet hoop for me because I couldn't weld. Then I found that my chassis was rotten and decided to have a go at repairing it myself. I'm so glad I did as it feels like I've worked a miracle and brought something back to life that was dying.

You can keep your bespoke space-frame chassis. For the proper car building experience give me a rusty old Triumph and a cheap arc welder any day. :bounce:
8 Jun 2012, 6:20pm
garyh wrote:


I can't believe that i might be able to paint the chassis soon. Well, once i have welded all of the chassis rails and outrigers back on...


Not wishing to spoil your fun but surely a chassis that rusty is fundamentally unsafe?
8 Jun 2012, 8:58pm
Yep, thats why i am welding it back together.
8 Jun 2012, 9:01pm
A Sammio, unsafe? Ha! Over my dead body...
8 Jun 2012, 9:13pm
There you go, its a bit stronger already.