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I have not even started yet but I am going to need one eventually so count me in too. Not worried about the finish. I would go for an adaptor plate too.
John
I have given the idea of making an adaptor plate some thought.
My concern is that there may be owners with different master cylinders and different fixing hole centres and angles.
However, may be a way round this is to make a batch of adaptor plates with the large centre hole, and the two holes to attach to the servo, and the cut out for the vacuum elbow: but not include the master cylinder fixing studs.
Each user could then drill two holes to match their own master cylinder, and fix with counter sunk set screws? There is no need to ensure a vacuum seal, so as long as the screws are seated below the face there will be no problem.
Is anyone interested in this option?
I don't know what the cost would be, but if I can get 10-15 made locally they shouldn't be too expensive in self colour.
Count me in for a 'univesal' adaptor plate.
Thanks to Mike for pursuing the idea and to Jason for finding the source and for the trial and testing phase. Well done!!
Mike. Where did you buy the long clevis (I assume that I will need the same for my Hunter)?
Also what clearance did you set between the servo adjustable plunger and the master cylinder piston? Peter.
I just set it to suit the master cylinder with the adaptor plug / pin I had. It was actually set a bit higher than the original metro plunger - I just fiddled around with it until I could bolt the cylinder on without any resistance from the piston.
As for the ordering - If it's going to be an issue, I'll just had a zinc / cad plated one rather than a SS one...
However, may be a way round this is to make a batch of adaptor plates with the large centre hole, and the two holes to attach to the servo, and the cut out for the vacuum elbow: but not include the master cylinder fixing studs.
Each user could then drill two holes to match their own master cylinder, and fix with counter sunk set screws? There is no need to ensure a vacuum seal, so as long as the screws are seated below the face there will be no problem.
Is anyone interested in this option?
I don't know what the cost would be, but if I can get 10-15 made locally they shouldn't be too expensive in self colour.
Servo:
Jason (GOO)
Nigel (NigelB)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
John (Oaktree11)
Adaptor Plate:
Jason (GOO)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Mike (Mike)
Jeremy (Ireland)
Long 3/8" Clevis:
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
We do not seem to have reached many of the existing earlier Sportster owners? I will try to contact the Membership Secretary and the Sportster committe member to see if they will allow us to contact existing owners direct.
There will not be many Cabrio owners, as most have fitted Ford (some BMW M20) engines, and will have been able to utilise the bigger standard Ford servo.
Madabout contributors who might (?) be interested:
MSportster (Patrick)
Morris (Ian)
Glen
.......any others?
Are people happy to source their own clevis? I am happy to source a job lot and post at cost if the interest is there?
Hi guys...from a single comment about a dual servo to the fantastic engineering efforts of all involved, a big congrats ...please include me in all parts needed to complete, I also would be happy to finance in advance.A great example of the benefits of this forum!
Hi guys...from a single comment about a dual servo to the fantastic engineering efforts of all involved, a big congrats ...please include me in all parts needed to complete, I also would be happy to finance in advance.A great example of the benefits of this forum!
Hi Jeremy
I have enjoyed being able to give something back to all those who have contributed through this and other forums and helped me so much with my own build.
I hope we can get a few more interested yet..................
Whoa, haven't logged in for a few days and missed all this. You can put me down for servo in whatever finish is available provided it's not bright green or something else non-metallic or black.
I kind of got a bit lost while quickly reading through the backlog so I'll take advice as to whether I need an adaptor and longer clevis.
I'm going for an E30 cylinder with the res on top as BMW intended so as that's the same as Mike, I guess it's a yes on both items
Spoke to Duksville today - Paul advises his supplier is out of stock, and does not expect to receive a new delivery this side of Christmas. I think we may have to wait longer than that, but we'll see.
I've had a search for manufacturers in the US, but to get them here at Duksville's price we would have to be a dealer - so unlikely, but worth a try.
Universal Adaptor
My aim is to make a plate like this, excluding the two threaded screw fixings. You can then drill and counter sink your own to suit your particular master cylinder and angle.
The two smaller holes will be determined by the Dual Servo's studs.
Dedicated Adaptor?
For those of you with master cylinders that have the same stud centres as the Metro, and who are willing to risk getting the correct angle relative to the servo, I could get studs welded in. What are your preferences? Now I think about it could this suit the majority?
I need to know the maximum dia. of centre hole required. Has anyone had any problem fitting their master cylinder to the Metro servo. Can I take it as a given that the hole needs only to match the Metro servo?
Jason has proven that the new Dual servo is self sealed, so there will be no requirement for the recess shown around the centre hole.
The bite out the side is for where the vacuum elbow fits, so will be common to all adaptors.
Personally I think it would be better to produce the adapter plate just with the holes for fixing it to the servo. Its not a huge job to drill and countersink two holes for the master cylinder fixings and I suspect there is quite a variation of master cylinders in use out there as Marlin changed their preferences more than once.
On another front there seems to be plenty of places in the US that will sell you a servo directly but the cost of delivery to the UK is eye watering....
On another front there seems to be plenty of places in the US that will sell you a servo directly but the cost of delivery to the UK is eye watering....
Cheers
Robin
To get a good price we would need to buy from a manufacturer and get a dealer discount. I am trying to contact mbm, but even if we ordered, say 20, I don't know whether they will fob us off to Pirate Jack their end user dealer.
Paul at Duksville suggested his source came from Taiwan - does anyone have contacts out there?!
Mike
Servo:
Jason (GOO)
Nigel (NigelB)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
John (Oaktree11)
Jeremy (jeremy)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - Edit : NigelB only wants one!
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick
Ian Papworth
Adaptor Plate:
Jason (GOO)
Robin (MartinClan)
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Peter (Peterux)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Mike (Mike) S/S
Jeremy (jeremy)
Nigel (NigelB)
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick S/S
Ian Papworth
john (Oaktree)
Long 3/8" Clevis:
Peter (Grey V8 Pete)
Dennis (denniswpearce)
Jeremy (jeremy)
Nigel (NigelB)
John (Cabrioman)
Morris (Ian)
Mashtun (Mark) TBC
David Siddall (MOC)
Patrick
Ian Papworth
John (Oaktree)
Hey Mike,
You've got me down for 2 servos. It might be a good idea but I think I'll struggle with space.........................!!
Just the one will do me fine.
Cheers
Nigel