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Geoff's 250 SWB Replica Build

3 Mar 2015, 11:43am
as for colours how about this to be a little different

also another was raced in gold Spinedi’s car from the 6-Heures d’Auvergne race at Clermont which was painted a very fetching bright gold with a red and white stripe and carried its Swiss owner for fifth overall..only got a pic of the model though .
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http://www.influx.co.uk/blog/not-only-red/.
"not only red"
We’ve never understood why it’s so important for Ferraris to be red. Always struck us as a little silly to spend hundreds of thousand of pounds on something a whole bunch of other people have got. And there’s something about the 250, especially the SWB version of the classic GT, that works so well in colours other than the usual.

The cognoscenti will argue for hours over wether or not yellow (giallo modena in current range parlance), is, in actual fact, the original colour of Ferrari (notice the prancing Ferrari horse is set agains the dominant yellow shield). But then, with blue being the traditional colour of French racing, then the fact that the blue 250 above is in powder blue livery seems wholly appropriate.

But it’s perhaps in the bare sheet metal grey of a true competizione model where this particular ferrari shines brightest. The most beautiful car is, to quote Enzo Ferrari himself, the one that wins!
i dig the blue one
3 Mar 2015, 11:57am
Steering boss was this from Demon Tweaks. Nice and shiney

SRAALL.524.20 Simoni Racing Steering Wheel Polished Alloy Boss Kit
BMW Z3 1 £68.70 £68.70



and then discovered the holes didn't line up. Fortunately my mate machined me an adapter out of aluminium.
3 Mar 2015, 1:43pm
Thanks for the replies about the boss adaptor. Digging that groovy gold SWB and the super seventies duds of the owner. Did he mature into the guy in speedos from the Southern Comfort ad?

Oh la la la la la lalala, oh la la lala, oh can't you see, I gotta be me...
3 Mar 2015, 2:02pm
Dark blue for me along the lines of this. I'm going with 17" steels though.
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Great to see there's already a range of colours chosen, not just the predictable (but still very lovely) red.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181570020650?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I bought one of these wheel bosses. Not tried it yet but it covers lots of the smaller fittings. Just black but only £30.

Here's some more colour options someone may like to consider including beige (although I think that's just the light)
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Cheers, Bob.
3 Mar 2015, 3:46pm
The beige car looks like a Volvo p1800:hurt:
Go with the color YOU like best,for me a Ferrari must be red.....dark red.
@Towed.....If i decide to build a SWB the interior and dash are going to be period correct as possible,also wire wheels are a must........:eusa_dance:
3 Mar 2015, 4:50pm
Ooh, I do like that gunmetal colour with the red stripes. Very nice.

Agree about the wires, these from MWS are the closest I could find to the look of the original Borranis (without actually being Borranis at $1500 each) -

http://shop.mwsint.com/product_details.asp?id=490

With adaptors and three eared spinners a set of four will be something like £1100 (plus tyres), which isn't too bad but would blow a big hole in my intended budget.

I'll initially go with 15" steels and then start saving my pocket money for the MWS wires once it's on the road. I can always fit winter tyres to the steels and keep them for when the weather turns cold.

Oh, and I always rather liked the P1800 Volvo. If it was good enough for The Saint...
3 Mar 2015, 5:18pm
Keep your eye out on eBay. I picked up a set of 15" Aston DB4 wires for £80.

It helped that they were listed as "Astin Wheels (Wire)" and had no picture though.

Okay, not Borranis but nor are the MWS ones.

If you do pick up older wire wheels, make sure they are the thick spoke version, Aston or Jag not MG to be sure they are strong enough.

Also jag have 52mm hubs while everyone else has 42mm so make sure you get the right size hub adaptors.
3 Mar 2015, 6:41pm
It is great to see so many SWB builds planned and even better that they are all different.

I plan to go a slightly different route again with a mix of 1950's style with a modern twist. I will be leaving the Z3 interior alone simply because I think that it would be too costly to get it "right", it would take more time than I would like to spend and partly because my donor has a decent leather interior already fitted.

I will also be fitting modern wheels, possibly something like these with dummy spinners as a nod to the original Borranis


My aim is to have it built and be at Stoneleigh with it which I think is achievable so long as work doesn't get in the way.

As for the colour, it will be Silver. Or Yellow. Or dark blue. No no it will be silver! Or maybe.......
3 Mar 2015, 8:04pm
GazDavies wrote:
It is great to see so many SWB builds planned and even better that they are all different.

I plan to go a slightly different route again with a mix of 1950's style with a modern twist. I will be leaving the Z3 interior alone simply because I think that it would be too costly to get it "right", it would take more time than I would like to spend and partly because my donor has a decent leather interior already fitted.

I will also be fitting modern wheels, possibly something like these with dummy spinners as a nod to the original Borranis


My aim is to have it built and be at Stoneleigh with it which I think is achievable so long as work doesn't get in the way.

As for the colour, it will be Silver. Or Yellow. Or dark blue. No no it will be silver! Or maybe.......

Plum Crazy???????
3 Mar 2015, 8:21pm
reneanglia wrote:
Plum Crazy???????


Nah, purple wouldn't suit the car at all.
3 Mar 2015, 9:47pm
reneanglia wrote:
Plum Crazy???????


Maybe not plum, but, funnily enough, Triumph Damson Red is on my shortlist -



Although I'm 99% set on silver, when I come to purchase a donor, if a perfect candidate pops up and happens to be red then, surprisingly perhaps, I'll be spraying the 250 Damson Red.
4 Mar 2015, 9:28am
:grouphug:I guess somebody will come up with ....two tone colour...like purple and. yellow, ......a black vinyl roof already has been mentioned...LOL ....:grouphug:
4 Mar 2015, 9:51am
Mister Towed wrote:


I'll initially go with 15" steels and then start saving my pocket money for the MWS wires once it's on the road. I can always fit winter tyres to the steels and keep them for when the weather turns cold.



I rather like the idea of the steels - Maybe dark blue body with old english white stripe and same white for the wheels?
4 Mar 2015, 11:13am
Steel wheels sound like a potentially good retro idea without forking out for wires.
Are there any decent steelies out there with the correct bolt pattern/offset that might look the part?
4 Mar 2015, 11:26am
Very Andy wrote:
Steel wheels sound like a potentially good retro idea without forking out for wires.
Are there any decent steelies out there with the correct bolt pattern/offset that might look the part?


BMW do plenty of steels, I'm using 17" but 15" & 16" are available.
The bolt on wires used a Jaguar 4.75" pcd which is 120.6mm pcd (BMW is 120mm) and Jaguar is the same as Chevrolet so all sorts of wheels for American cars and hot rods then become an option, subject to offset.

Bob.
4 Mar 2015, 12:09pm
On the steel wheel front this might whet your appetite.
BMW steelies with spinners....



or black...
4 Mar 2015, 12:11pm
I like that. It's the sort of effect I'm after as I'll be using spinners as well.
Thanks for the black version, that's my plan A.

Bob.
4 Mar 2015, 12:23pm
Just added a black version too.

Would definitely reduce build costs as well. Could add banded steelies to the back to fill the arches if need be.
4 Mar 2015, 12:23pm
That's pretty much the look I'll be aiming for, but 15" with high profile rubber. Not sure whether I'll go with silver or white for the wheels on a silver car, I've been toying with the idea of painting my Spyder's wires white for a while.

I take it the image of the SWB on (17"?) steels is photoshopped? If so, can you do versions with silver and white instead of red rims please?
4 Mar 2015, 12:32pm
Mmm, in silver they'd look a bit Dun-loppy which would not be a bad thing.
4 Mar 2015, 1:01pm
Silver, using newer beemer alloys



white

4 Mar 2015, 1:07pm
The top alloys are taken from a 2002 bmw but probably only came in 13 inch the bottom set are from a much newer bmw and would come in 15 to 17 or 18 inch. Think you would need to source an very old 7 series or something to get bigger old style steels.

I actually prefer the newer ones and they could be banded easily.
4 Mar 2015, 6:34pm
Ooh, both those looks work for me. :)

Thanks for doing that VA, I've never tried photoshop myself, must really have a go.

When you say2002 BMW, do you mean the year or the model (as in 2002tii)?
4 Mar 2015, 6:46pm
I knew you would like them Mr T!
Banded, they would look superb.
4 Mar 2015, 6:52pm
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Perhaps a bit extreme but banded steels do look good.

Bob.