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COMING SOON :- Triumph based 50's Special.

5 Nov 2016, 4:26pm
Mister Towed wrote:


Based on his previous Sammio offerings, I don't think Gary's new model will cost even half that to build to a high standard, more like a third.


I agree that donor prices are rising ..but the Triumph offerings are still affordable when you look at the volume of components they bring to the project ...parts are still cheap and available and you retain a classic car status the MEV offerings cant achieve ..yet ...so they work for me !!

Often , the best route is to buy a 'wreck' and refurb it ...you know what you have then ...most MX5's will need a degree of refurb by now too ...

Avoiding IVA and retaining classic car status is priceless as far as I am concerned ...

My bodies with seperate bootlid , flip stle front and seperate doors will be in line with a Miglia body ...so should around the £1600-2000 mark ...depending on final spec.

So , very roughly speaking ... refurbed Herald or Vitesse ...£2000 , bodyshell £2000 ..wheels / tyres adaptors ...£500 ... sundry items , interior etc ..£1000 ... paint ...£1000...

Very loose calculation ..but we are still below the MEV start price ...
5 Nov 2016, 4:56pm
As my username implies, I'm very much in the 'please don't break a sound car' camp, but accept that some Triumphs are more suited to becoming donors than being restored. Just stay away from Vitesses, alright?! ;)
5 Nov 2016, 5:51pm
Triumph Special wrote:
Just stay away from Vitesses, alright?! ;)


Nothing to see here, move along now folks... :peep:









5 Nov 2016, 9:02pm
rochdaleGT wrote:

we are talking here about?? hmmm ...triumph, maybe triumph...or a triumph?? hmmm, looks that there isnt much too choose?


...Reliant Scimitar SE5/6......Lotus Elite/Éclat..... TVR's...... More modern pick up chassis' such as the Ford Ranger/Mazda B Series. All of these are chassised donors that have been re-bodied at the Tribute workshop.

How about one of these?:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LONDON-TAXIS-LTI-TX2-ROLLING-CHASSIS-WITH-FRONT-AND-REAR-AXLES-AND-SUSPENSION-/201083136906?hash=item2ed17d2b8a:g:E1wAAOxyYANTYq5c
6 Nov 2016, 8:20am
Apologies for drifting slightly off topic…

But Chris's taxi link is a great excuse to highlight one of my favourite 'Rods 'n' Sods' builds.

Start will an London Taxi found in a scrap yard…



Remain the unmodified chassis for a DVLA "8 Points" build and no IVA.



Add/join two Jaguar straight engines to create a straight 12 and convert it to run on LPG! :eek:



Cut up a canoe to help shape the 'Boat Tail' rear end.



The front end is shaping up pretty well too.



This car project is still going, but if you liked Scottie22's XKSS build 'next door, you'll love this. :cool:

http://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/forum/garage/medusa-206057
6 Nov 2016, 8:21am
Oops, sorry I didn't realise the first photo was so HUGE! :rolleyes:
6 Nov 2016, 8:43am
lancelot link wrote:
...you retain a classic car status the MEV offerings cant achieve ..yet ...so they work for me !!

Often , the best route is to buy a 'wreck' and refurb it ...you know what you have then ...most MX5's will need a degree of refurb by now too ...

Avoiding IVA and retaining classic car status is priceless as far as I am concerned ...


Avoiding IVA and retaining Classic car status? Under UK legislation the MEV Replicar has to be registered as a 'new' car, just like any other vehicle built up on a new* or modified chassis, so subject to the compulsory IVA test.

*The rules allow for a new replacement chassis exactly like the original to be used and the car won't need IVA and will still retain its full classic status.

As the MEV uses the major components, engine, gearbox, axles, steering etc, from a donor car, it can be allocated an age related number plate on registration.

That number plate will be linked to the year of manufacture of the donor though, so reflective plates and 1989 'G' prefix to '05' current style for a mk1, 2 or 2.5 MX5.

You'll also be paying a minimum of £235 per year road tax until at least the year 2029, so that's another £2,820 ownership cost to factor in for the oldest MX5 donor even if the Government never puts the price of road tax up (they wouldn't do that, would they?)

Just something else to think about when you're paying a lot of money for a classic replica that doesn't seem to be mentioned on kit manufacturer's sites that use a new or modified chassis as a base, I'm thinking MEV, Chesil, Caterham etc. THAT ALLOCATED NUMBER CANNOT BE TRANSFERRED, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT.

Manufacturers that use historic vehicle drivetrains, typically old Jag engines like Suffolk Sports Cars and AS Motorsport, are able to have a suitable historic registration allocated as the donor engine will qualify it, and your basic plod isn't going to notice that it shouldn't be wearing black plates unless they're a very anally retentive traffic cop (there are quite a few of those though).

But again, that plate can't be transferred so you couldn't, for example, pay a million pounds for the registration 'DBR 1' and then transfer it to your (admittedly lovely) AS Motorsports replica -

http://www.asmotorsport.co.uk/index.html

MX5 donors? I had a mk1 MX5 1.8 when it was seven years old. It broke down a lot and was difficult to fix. It was also very skittish in the dry and downright dangerous in the wet as it had far more power than grip.

The motoring press loved them because they spend most of their time going sideways on race tracks, which is exciting.

Unintentionally going sideways on the A17 in winter when there's a truck coming the other way is also exciting, but in the same way that being shot at is exciting. From experience, that is the sort of exciting that only kicks in if you survive. I sold it because it was too exciting.

I'll be sticking with old Triumphs for my donors. Guess I'll just have to put up with the transferable historic registrations, legitimate use of black and white plates, £29.99 annual MOT fee, zero charge historic road tax, huge availability of spares, etc, etc, etc...
6 Nov 2016, 9:40am
That Boat tailed Special is awesome Paul ...