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Ericholm 250 SWB Build thread

21 Aug 2015, 1:55pm
Hi Eric,

How does it drive with those wheels on, Id imagine that its very long legged if you know what I mean. Great for cruising.

Loving the thread by the way.

Andy
21 Aug 2015, 1:58pm
Andy - yeah - already seen that - nice gain in offset but at the rear only although currently theoretical.

At the front we're talking about 8.5 wheels and shifting them even further into whatever backspace is available. You'd end up having to put stops on the rack to prevent rubbing assuming there's actually enough space to get the bulk of an 18" (minimum) 8.5 inches of wheel all the way back into the arch probably talking needing something like ET70!

Bottom line - you cannot get front and back tyres to sit up inside the arch without either custom made wheels or body mods. I just can't afford to throw the extra cash at it as I'd be relying on someone else to do it.

The offset was always the hurdle for me from the git go - I just can't get over it that's all. I'm sure someone will find a way further down the line.
21 Aug 2015, 2:17pm
Very Andy wrote:
Hi Eric,

How does it drive with those wheels on, Id imagine that its very long legged if you know what I mean. Great for cruising.

Loving the thread by the way.

Andy


Not sure how it drives as only put one tyre on one wheel so far, also cannot fit to fronts due to large overhang on front spring, have to change to coilovers to take that out of equation, but this will lower the car 20mm grrrrrrr. So really want coilovers that raise the car not lower it :noidea:

Its fun isn't it! :help:
21 Aug 2015, 3:26pm
ericholm wrote:
Not sure how it drives as only put one tyre on one wheel so far, also cannot fit to fronts due to large overhang on front spring, have to change to coilovers to take that out of equation, but this will lower the car 20mm grrrrrrr. So really want coilovers that raise the car not lower it :noidea:

Its fun isn't it! :help:


most coilovers have adjustable spring seats just wind them down and it should raise the height
21 Aug 2015, 9:16pm
You can raise the ride height by putting thicker pads under the rear springs, BMW sell them or you can buy discs on eBay - 9mm pad will increase height by about 15mm due to suspension set up

You could gain some space by trimming the arch lip back, the top of the wheel will move inboard when the suspension compresses, z3's run excessive camber at the rear when lowered so the wheel might not rub on a trimmed arch

Alternatively using z4 hubs and e46 solid rear discs bring the rear in by 23mm each side, Chris took a photo its in the wheel thread on the forum

The fronts should fit in the arches with the coilovers but your turning circle might be limited

Personally I liked the picture of the 205 70 tyres on the wires you took in italy
21 Aug 2015, 10:39pm
Plastic Porsche wrote:
You can raise the ride height by putting thicker pads under the rear springs, BMW sell them or you can buy discs on eBay - 9mm pad will increase height by about 15mm due to suspension set up

You could gain some space by trimming the arch lip back, the top of the wheel will move inboard when the suspension compresses, z3's run excessive camber at the rear when lowered so the wheel might not rub on a trimmed arch

Alternatively using z4 hubs and e46 solid rear discs bring the rear in by 23mm each side, Chris took a photo its in the wheel thread on the forum

The fronts should fit in the arches with the coilovers but your turning circle might be limited

Personally I liked the picture of the 205 70 tyres on the wires you took in italy


Yep, I like the idea of thicker pads, just not the idea of fitting them as they were a right pain in the butt to replace those springs, :fear: it might be a good reason to invest in some spring compression tools....:thumb:

Z4 hubs and discs, are beyond my skill set, I leave that to the pro's :yo:
22 Aug 2015, 8:04am
I have a pair of spring compressors if you are passing Southampton or they are fairly cheap in machinemart
22 Aug 2015, 9:03am
WorldClassAccident wrote:
I have a pair of spring compressors if you are passing Southampton or they are fairly cheap in machinemart


Many thanks for the offer, I see the machinemart ones will do the trick, and also I'm heading to Newark auto jumble tomorrow, you'll never know what I can pick up there.
22 Aug 2015, 2:50pm
Coming together nicely...well done
22 Aug 2015, 5:17pm
ericholm wrote:
Understood........

DSCN3912 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3915 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3910 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3909 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3905 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3903 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3901 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3899 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3898 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3886 by eric holm, on FlickrDSCN3888 by eric holm, on Flickr


I was looking through your photos and noticed you have used sealant on the fuel filler. I hope this doesn't react like SikaFlex when in contact with petrol. Sikaflex partly dissolves and turns into runny slime and blocks up everything in the fuel system. I found out the hard way on my Robin Hood 7 many years ago. Had to replace the fuel lines , flush out the tank and rebuild the carb , nightmare !

Please check with the sealant manufacturer before its too late!
22 Aug 2015, 7:19pm
Worried..... :shocked::shocked:

I just copied what Hurnleft did:

Archived forum photo


For me the tech specs don't really tell me much other than its probably alright...any other views?

Looks like this isn't good enough for areas that touch fuel, however as the aluminum pipe is a push fit and the sealant is around the outside edges, the amount of liquid petrol that touch it will be absolutely minimal if any at all, also the tight fit of the pipe wont allow it to go into the tank either, so looks like it should be ok all things considered, I am sad to hear of the trouble you had, can you (Lucky@Lemans) confirm that the issue you had was where the petrol liquid came in contact with the PU18 or equivalent, or did you just use it to seal the pipes so no gas vapour came out like me.

Thanks.
22 Aug 2015, 8:46pm
Thanks to all of those following my build, I am trying to put as many pictures up as possible and use Flickr for this it says I have over 1000 photos loaded there. Heres the link again: https://www.flickr.com/photos/134265488@N05

Feel free to comment/ask questions etc. This is my first ever build so happy to hear all thoughts, etc.

111Imag2e1 by eric holm, on Flickr

PS - I have a huge stack of Z3 parts mounting up and will put on ebay at some point, however if you need any let me know! :high5:
22 Aug 2015, 8:50pm
ericholm wrote:
Worried..... :shocked::shocked:

I just copied what Hurnleft did:

Archived forum photo


For me the tech specs don't really tell me much other than its probably alright...any other views?

Looks like this isn't good enough for areas that touch fuel, however as the aluminum pipe is a push fit and the sealant is around the outside edges, the amount of liquid petrol that touch it will be absolutely minimal if any at all, also the tight fit of the pipe wont allow it to go into the tank either, so looks like it should be ok all things considered, I am sad to hear of the trouble you had, can you (Lucky@Lemans) confirm that the issue you had was where the petrol liquid came in contact with the PU18 or equivalent, or did you just use it to seal the pipes so no gas vapour came out like me.

Thanks.


On the robin Hood I had to make a seal between the filler neck ( plastic tube) and the rough edge of the stainless fuel tank. I was quite generous when applying the Sikaflex to make a bead about 1/2" thick around the joint. On that tank there were no baffles so the petrol could slop around . I could only assume that is when petrol would come into contact with it. I replaced the Sikaflex with a proper fuel resistant doughnut type O ring seal in the end.
22 Aug 2015, 9:31pm
Phew! thanks for the clarification, looks like I will be ok then, however once again sorry to hear of the trouble you had, must have been a nightmare :boom:
23 Aug 2015, 7:31am
Eric; you grinded off way too much fiberglass of the bonnet mouthopening. I think you will have issues to fit the grill neatly....
23 Aug 2015, 1:58pm
mobilerobbie wrote:
Eric; you grinded off way too much fiberglass of the bonnet mouthopening. I think you will have issues to fit the grill neatly....


Hi, I haven't grinded a thing off any part of the bonnet, this is how it came, oh dear!
23 Aug 2015, 2:07pm
Eric - I just had a look at Bob/Hurnleft's build and found this photo.



Your bonnet looks very similar and you can see the extra grille surround piece on the floor.

So perhaps mobilerobbie thinks you have ground this piece down, whereas I assume you haven't fitted it yet.

Hope that helps, Paul. :)
23 Aug 2015, 2:12pm
Paul L wrote:
Eric - I just had a look at Bob/Hurnleft's build and found this photo.



Your bonnet looks very similar and you can see the extra grille surround piece on the floor.

So perhaps mobilerobbie thinks you have ground this piece down, whereas I assume you haven't fitted it yet.

Hope that helps, Paul. :)


Yep that could be the reason as I have that part still boxed and can only fit when I know the gap behind the front once I have removed the fan etc.
23 Aug 2015, 3:36pm
My mistake, I have the grille installed alrteady and that is much deeper then the original bonnet opening....

sorry
23 Aug 2015, 4:57pm
mobilerobbie wrote:
My mistake, I have the grille installed alrteady and that is much deeper then the original bonnet opening....

sorry


No Worries,,,,,Phew!
23 Aug 2015, 5:02pm
More adjustment to the front end today means that I get get the bonnet all the way down and locked, just some adjustments to do to line it up.

DSCN4519 by eric holm, on Flickr

As always loads more photos on: https://www.flickr.com/photos/134265488@N05

Also went to Newark Autojumble today and got lots more lovely parts for the build, can you believe I bumped in to Hurnleft! :biggrin:

And there was a red tribute MX5 250 GTO there, what were the odds!
23 Aug 2015, 5:32pm
so when are the door skins going on????