MadaboutKitcars

The grill looks unfinished, no real shape to it.

Sorry DSG im with Garry you do great work but the bonnet and wings have been blended together.
My original design harks back to the time when wings and bonnet were separate units.
They of course will not be but the contours suggest they are

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Maybe if you can get your mini lamps onto this and loose the mini side / indicator lamps - perhaps spot lamps instead.

Ive been to a dealership - nice lamps £1000+ ballasts etc for the Xenon lamps in your pic

Only £400 a pair for the non Xenon version




The fiat units were £38 each
I know the mini lamp looks better but I wonder how commercially viable the front end becomes when the lamps cost so much.

After all Tribute doesn't sell this sort of kit in £4000+ price range which is why we love them.
They are well made and as economic as we want them.

Sure the SWb ,Kobra and GTO could all have lots of money spent on them but you can build a budget version if that's what you want.

I appreciate the front end will possibly use the z300 front end as a starting point, but with the design changes you're requesting, how would z300 7" headlamps and cowls match your design thoughts and be sufficiently different from the original Tribute shape. Should be a reasonable cost, proven solution?

What about an Alfa Mito? Headlamps are £150 a pair on eBay and sufficiently unusual so people won't guess the doner.

You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.




There is another way round the headlamp issue. Have you thought of "old school" In the 60´s most sports cars used 7 inch units behind glass/perspex covers to give them a streamlined look. e.g. Aston DB5, E type. GTO, etc.
You can take that route but using modern 7 inch units with L.E.D.s or projector lights or halo lighting. Some cost as little as £70 the pair.





Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/CBS_Catalogue.pdf

[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.




There is another way round the headlamp issue. Have you thought of "old school" In the 60´s most sports cars used 7 inch units behind glass/perspex covers to give them a streamlined look. e.g. Aston DB5, E type. GTO, etc.
You can take that route but using modern 7 inch units with L.E.D.s or projector lights or halo lighting. Some cost as little as £70 the pair.






that's looking great DSG - I still think the scoop can be less obvious I confess the mini bonnet scoop would be my choice but we are close now
Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.

[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.




There is another way round the headlamp issue. Have you thought of "old school" In the 60´s most sports cars used 7 inch units behind glass/perspex covers to give them a streamlined look. e.g. Aston DB5, E type. GTO, etc.
You can take that route but using modern 7 inch units with L.E.D.s or projector lights or halo lighting. Some cost as little as £70 the pair.




Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.

that's looking great DSG - I still think the scoop can be less obvious I confess the mini bonnet scoop would be my choice but we are close now
Check out the Car Builder Solutions catalogue for a wide selection of front
and rear lights.

I still think the scoop can be less obvious

A flat channel in front of the scoop?

Lowers the rise of the scoop but still keeps it looking meaningful

Creating from scratch is great fun and I like the direction of this car. I used early Mini Cooper headlights on one of my cars. I purchased them new on Ebay. They were pretty inexpensive.

Have fun.

Hi JMC glad your still on - I remember this - I love the Lister style

Sounds interesting Nick

Chris had an idea of cutting part of the z300 scoop and inverting it - recessing it into the bonnet to creat an oval scoop.

To be honest I had got up at silly o'clock to venture down to Chris and I couldn't visualise what he was describing.

But now I can and its definitely a possibility - the Z300s power bulge is low key but the opening would be obvious

[QUOTE=DSG4ME;69807]You are right about the wings and bonnet with the blended look. A Cobra should always show it´s mascular wings.




DSG I wonder if you would be so kind as to put the fiat 500 lamps on and adjust the hood scoop to something a little less intrusive.

There has been lots of talk of how inappropriate they are, im just curious.

Thank you

That is the idea with the scoop. Sometimes it looks good but sometimes it doesn't. I guess photoshop is easier to try it on than glassing it up.

Here you have it with Fiat 500 Headlamps and a Ferrari 550 bonnet scoop as recommended by WCA.

I 'might' have meant the Honda one ;-)

Thanks DSG your a star

ha ha ha I hope not!

high beam units looked a bit orange - they will receive a smoke tint like the rear lamps and maybe the headlamps.

Tried out the revised Z300 power bulge and scoop that Chris envisaged.
I think we are pretty close.

More similar to the cobra in this pic than I imagined .
The stance will be completely different being based on a z300s.

The face being much lower than the Kobra.

It will wear AC badges though.
"AC Schnitzer"

Legitamate as my donor has AC pedals and wheels hahaha
and should keep a few guessing what it is

If you're insistent on using Fiat 500 headlamps, at least use black ones
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-2013-FIAT-500-HEADLIGHT-SET-BLACK-UPGRADE-TRIM-OEM-NEW-factory-EBFI-007-/321675094951

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500-07-12-Projector-headlight-headlamp-pair-black-with-LED-DRL-/252039074615?fits=Car+Make%3AFiat%7CModel%3A500&hash=item3aaeb31337

I did ask for feedback and I appreciate everyone's comments

We all have opinions and I respect each and every one but I do not have to agree with them.

I picked up paper and pencil and I styled the car - I do not have to compromise my vision.

If you want a similar car with a different lamp speak to Chris he is very obliging.

The head light is not just a detail - it dictates the complete form especially in side profile.

Hence why I said its an holistic approach to design and not just add a panel front and back and leave a huge chunk of unchanged donor in between.

Its even more interesting as my design is based on Nicks original vision.
Mine is just a restyle, just a tweak here and there not a full original design like the z300s was.

Please continue to comment.
But don't get upset if I don't agree.

I didn't mean to upset you and have already stated how much I like what you're doing with this.
As you say, everyone has opinions. Some are helpful and some you'll disagree with, and that's fine.
Anyway, best of luck and keep the ideas flowing, I'm sure it will turn out just great.
I'm right about the headlamps though

Enough sketching
Time to do something.

Stripped the AC wheels and repainted them - Satin Black centres and Candy Red rims



Candy pops well in the sun
Time to prop it up against the car - I will wait a few days to make sure the 2k has gone hard before refitting the tyres

They look well but in my opinion fitting them alloys will scream out BMW will it not?

Back on with the rear lights, i know you said your fitting fiat coupé lights and tinting them to get rid of the amber, but im currently driving from the north or germany to alicante and the ammount of new motor homes that have similar style round lighs fitted ive seen is unreal, they all seem to be led aswell and incorperate reverse/fog lights. Maybe worth a look?

Good call I never thought of commercial lamps I will take a look