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Dino 206P

16 Mar 2014, 12:27am
that last one is the Pininfarina 206 show car not the Drogo one
16 Mar 2014, 10:23am
rossnzwpi wrote:
Hey Axel, don't know if you have this blueprint - its 4 pounds from:

http://www.autosports-gallery.co.uk/blue-prints/ferrari-206s-dino-sport-le-mans-1966.html

I'll try and attach an image

cheers
Ross in NZ


Woow, Ross
I was looking for a technical drawing like this one for weeks and did not find any, I gotta buy this one! It is A3, big enough to get all the measurements I need!
Since now I was only working with photos!
Thanks very much Ross!
19 Mar 2014, 11:43am
rossnzwpi wrote:
Hi, there is also this expensive and rare French book on the Dino 206S. It has drawings - in fact I think the inside of the cover is made of blueprints.

http://www.amazon.com/Ferrari-Dino-206-Berlinetta-Spider/dp/3905268108/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395074436&sr=1-1&keywords=ferrari+dino+206s



Under the ISBN number ending ...108 this book is also on amazon.de, but without a price or a way of ordering. It appears also on amazon.fr, again without a price, but there is a button to click on to receive an email when it comes back into stock.
19 Mar 2014, 5:15pm
Yeah, the book seems to be sold out, but thanks anyway!
27 Mar 2014, 8:28am
Some updates:

I finished the bonnet and put it on the car again, and this really looks like a step forward:



27 Mar 2014, 8:32am
Then I started working at the lower rear panel with the 29 slots, I wheeled two pieces of sheet metal to threedimensional curvature and welded them together, and started to cut out the slots...what a pain in the a...!







but at the end I felt it was worth the work:



I was afraid that the panel will loose its stiffness with cutting that many slots in it, but amazingly it remained stiff, I guess due to the threedimensional curvature I gave it before!

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27 Mar 2014, 8:36am
After that I was working at the panels for the taillights:

I cut two pieces of wood with identical circular holes in them, and put the metal between them like a sandwich.
And than I was hammering by hand inside the circular top hole to give the metal a deflection for the integration of taillights and I was surprised it was really working out!



looks good outside:

27 Mar 2014, 8:40am
The last thing I did was the panels around the taillight panel, and this is really a step forward...with the almost finished metalwork of the bonnet and tail I feel like I have done the most difficult and significant parts of the Dino:









27 Mar 2014, 11:22am
Hi Axel, how did you get the slots that neat?
27 Mar 2014, 11:51am
garyh wrote:
Hi Axel, how did you get the slots that neat?


Hi Gary, with an angle grinder, a very thin disc for cutting (1mm thick, for stainless steel), a thick disc for rounding off and a lot of patience ;-)
29 Mar 2014, 11:44pm
Alex - You car is a great reflection of the huge amount of effort you are putting into building it. :cool:

Good luck, Paul. :)
30 Mar 2014, 6:04am
Just amazing how refined those slots make the whole thing look!
30 Mar 2014, 7:16pm
Thanks for the kind words, guys!
5 May 2014, 12:15pm
Some updates...
now come the bigger panels with moving further to the front :-)
Found out that the bigger panels are more fun, it is just the question how much you dome them!
It takes a long time to do the small ones because of my lack of experience, they all had reverse curvature...I need to do some courses...well, it is the first time I am doing this...









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5 May 2014, 3:23pm
Looking good Axel, will this body come apart in sections? What do you do to the inside of panels to make it rigid?
5 May 2014, 6:45pm
Thanks Gary
I will keep fragments of the fiberglassbody as a supporting structure, it worked fine with the bonnet and will hopefully work with the body as well...
6 May 2014, 7:45am
So,do you bond the li to the fibreglass?
6 May 2014, 9:07am
Yes, I use Sikaflex, a very strong glue for automotive purpose, and the metal body is also partially screwed to the fiberglass substructure!
7 May 2014, 6:26am
Axel wrote:
... it is the first time I am doing this ...

Axel - The panels you are making are stunning. :cool:

But the fact you've never done this sort of work before is really amazing.

Good luck, Paul. :)
24 Jul 2014, 11:57am
Whats happening Axel, on holiday?
25 Jul 2014, 6:28am
Hi Gary, thanks for asking, my time is more for gardenwork now and my 8 months old son of course, such a cute little boy who makes me happy every day.
But I have some updates:
I managed to do the rear fenders and I was playing around with the airintakes, and I am still not happy with their shape, but I am getting to it.
Here are some pics:
















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I still have a little bump in the red circle, it needs some shrinking in that area to fix it, and then I need to transfer it to the left side. The intake was to big at my first attempt, and it did touch the cutline of the door, I made it smaller now and its getting better, but judge yourself!
25 Jul 2014, 8:05am
Great work Axel, when your shaping those rear wings do you change the size of the anvil or have you just used the same one?
I can see the scoops take a lot of work, what bit are you not happy with/ is the return lip.
25 Jul 2014, 9:34am
garyh wrote:
Great work Axel, when your shaping those rear wings do you change the size of the anvil or have you just used the same one?
I can see the scoops take a lot of work, what bit are you not happy with/ is the return lip.


Thanks Gary, the wings were done with the english wheel, no hammering at all. I used the anvil with the most curvature at the beginning, and smoothed it out with lower anvils and used the most straight one at the end. I added the most curvature at the cutout for the wheel, the cutout was smaller at the beginning, and I cut it to tire size at the end after the most wheeling was done with the EW. Then I used the shrinker to bend it more in over the wheel, and smoothed it with the EW again. This process I did several times.
The upper flange was done with the shrinker/stretcher, and wheeled afterwards to smooth it.
Yes, the return lip was a pain in the a....still not smooth enough, the double curvature of the panel at all turned out pretty nice in fact...after some panels went in the bin ;-)
21 Aug 2014, 6:38am
Ok, wife and kid are on vacation til tomorrow, so I had some time to continue with my car.
(You might notice I changed the airintakes panel again)

I removed the plastic sills first



the Dino sills have a 25mm flange, so I took some sheet metal, fixed a 25mm flat bar under the sheet, and rolled it with a soft upper with my EW, result is a pretty nice flange.
The sills are made in two pieces and welded together to get the needed length and the radius is rolled with a soft upper.




Then I started the front end with a metal "subframe". It was pretty difficult to find the right proportions, but it is getting closer and closer.








Because I don't have any measurements of the original car I had to do photo comparisons with photoshop...pretty helpful:









You can see it is getting pretty close. Unfortunately I have to modify the spaceframe at the upper front, it is too high, but I did it yesterday evening.

I would like to weld a 40mm half circle tube around the front airintake, but I have no bead roller, so I took a tube from an old party tent, cut it quickly in half, and modified it with the shrinker, pretty good result!
I have to do it again with an exact cut, and I think I have a good base for the rounded front air intake (I am pretty sure it is done a different way, and you experts have many other ideas ;-)).

I really like this very low perspective:






...thanks for watching! Any comments or help is much appreciated!