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I am sure we are all holding our breath to see the results.
Don't have flexible pipes myself they are all copper tubes, so will need a bit of work to make it all fit but if results are good, then it will be worth it.
Good luck Jason.
Dermott O'Leary has nothing on Jason, - he is keeping us all in suspense.
I have solid brake lines, but found I could manipulate mine to move forward 2" without too much difficulty: and because I have the reservoir mounted directly on the master cylinder it is almost a straight swap.
Put us out of our misery Jason..........................What's the verdict ?????
The verdict is..... still pending. That headache I had on Sunday was the precursor to a full on gastric flu type thing. I haven't felt that bad in years!
I'm off work at the moment. If I feel a little less dizzy (all I've had to eat in 24 hours is two dry crackers... Blood sugar must be low) later today, I'll take Vikki for a spin round the block and report back.
The verdict is..... still pending. That headache I had on Sunday was the precursor to a full on gastric flu type thing. I haven't felt that bad in years!
I'm off work at the moment. If I feel a little less dizzy (all I've had to eat in 24 hours is two dry crackers... Blood sugar must be low) later today, I'll take Vikki for a spin round the block and report back.
Sorry Jason - don't rush it if you are not well. Its just me being impatient.
Well, I had to wait for you to comment. You are our sponsor, after all.
Right - here's the bottom line. Braking is MUCH improved.
There's a lot more feel in the pedal to my mind - you know how much braking effort is going in from the position of the pedal, not the muscles on your leg bulging under the strain.
You also get the feel that the car is going to stop in time, none of that "pray and press harder" when you have to anchor up rapidly. Initial bite is much more in line with my daily drivers.
In fact in a drag test on an empty road, I managed to lock the wheels by standing on the brakes - something I have never seen outside the IVA station...
So - I declare it a complete success. Gentlemen, start your credit cards!
[QUOTE=GreatOldOne;24134There's a lot more feel in the pedal to my mind - you know how much braking effort is going in from the position of the pedal, not the muscles on your leg bulging under the strain.
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That's exactly how mine feels atm. Its like pressing on a brick wall....
So - it looks like I will be going that way. Just have to find someone with them is stock. I wonder who ACTUALLY makes them.....
Well, I had to wait for you to comment. You are our sponsor, after all.
Right - here's the bottom line. Braking is MUCH improved.
There's a lot more feel in the pedal to my mind - you know how much braking effort is going in from the position of the pedal, not the muscles on your leg bulging under the strain.
You also get the feel that the car is going to stop in time, none of that "pray and press harder" when you have to anchor up rapidly. Initial bite is much more in line with my daily drivers.
In fact in a drag test on an empty road, I managed to lock the wheels by standing on the brakes - something I have never seen outside the IVA station...
So - I declare it a complete success. Gentlemen, start your credit cards!
Jason
Many thanks for being the guinea pig and testing this out. It sounds like very good news.
Quick question - did you make a seal between the servo and master cylinder? - I have a hunch it is not necessary, which makes the adaptor slightly easier to make, as we can do away with the O-ring and recess.
Would it be worth trying without the O - ring to prove that it still works?
Would you like to keep the adaptor plate, or would you prefer to make your own? I am happy either way (genuinely no offence if you prefer to make your own) - I will have to make a new one whatever, for my Cabrio as this one rotates my Sierra reservoir over at an unacceptable angle.
I hope this little bit of good news has helped you feel a little better..........?
As long as you don't mind Mike, I'll keep this plate if it's no good to you.
I'm not sure if about the O ring - I just left the old one on that was on the metro servo - I'm not sure if it was sealing or not. I'll have a look in a mo.
As for group buys - if someone can find a place that does them, and won't bend us over a barrel for shipping, count me in. Of course we will get stung for import duty...
I have seen chrome ones on eBay. But they're around £90.
Measuring it up, there's a 1/4 inch spare at the point where the top of the bonnet side panel meets the servo - and that's not at the widest part of the servo...
You'd have to notch the side panel for it to fit - at both of the stepped sections of the servo. I don't know how much longer it is, but in my situation if it got any longer I may have an issue with my braided lines.
I've spoken to Paul at Ducksville Speed shop, and he has none in at the moment. He would not normally have re-ordered until March / April next year until the new Hot rod season.
However, if enough people commit to ordering he can order a batch (he buys 50 at a time, but does not want 49 sitting in stock over winter) and he would do a modest bulk purchase discount.
So how many are now genuinely interested at £65-£70 each delivered for a zinc finish?
Not sure what the cost would be for Stainless (Paul advised steering away from Taiwanese chrome! and Stainless is a similar price)
I haven't got to the stage of experiencing the 'bum clenching' braking performance of the Metro servo yet but £70 for better braking sounds like a worthwhile investment to me. Put me on the list. I'll have one. Zinc or stainless.
I've spoken to Paul at Ducksville Speed shop, and he has none in at the moment. He would not normally have re-ordered until March / April next year until the new Hot rod season.
However, if enough people commit to ordering he can order a batch (he buys 50 at a time, but does not want 49 sitting in stock over winter) and he would do a modest bulk purchase discount.
So how many are now genuinely interested at £65-£70 each delivered for a zinc finish?
Not sure what the cost would be for Stainless (Paul advised steering away from Taiwanese chrome! and Stainless is a similar price)
Me too. Definitely want one in "Zinc" not SS! Pete.
P.S. They say zinc but it looks like cadmium plating to me. Is that just an American / English language thing?
Mike. Where did you buy the long clevis (I assume that I will need the same for my Hunter)?
Also what clearance did you set between the servo adjustable plunger and the master cylinder piston? Peter.
Mike. Where did you buy the long clevis (I assume that I will need the same for my Hunter)?
Also what clearance did you set between the servo adjustable plunger and the master cylinder piston? Peter.
Peter
I found them advertised on Ebay from a company called Illston & Robson.
They sell a pack of 4 for under £13.
Search "clevis 3/8" UNF".
Again, if we get enough committed orders I can collect a batch from them as they are local to my Birmingham office, and get a better deal.
Peter
I have not even got my car built or on the road yet, so can not comment on the clearance, but I would expect it to be exactly the same as for your current Metro servo. You can determine this by measuring the depth of the plunger in the master cylinder and the servo push rod position relative to the joint face. Then allow for the thickness of the adaptor plate - if you need one and set the gap to be the same as before.
Jason has road tested the Dual 7", so may be he could advise you better?
Mike. I suspect that there may be an avalanche of Marlineers interested in this upgrade. I certainly am for my disc/ disc Hunter. Keep the info coming please. You could even manufacture and sell an adaptor kit of parts for us?
Pete
I have given the idea of making an adaptor plate some thought.
My concern is that there may be owners with different master cylinders and different fixing hole centres and angles.
However, may be a way round this is to make a batch of adaptor plates with the large centre hole, and the two holes to attach to the servo, and the cut out for the vacuum elbow: but not include the master cylinder fixing studs.
Each user could then drill two holes to match their own master cylinder, and fix with counter sunk set screws? There is no need to ensure a vacuum seal, so as long as the screws are seated below the face there will be no problem.
Is anyone interested in this option?
I don't know what the cost would be, but if I can get 10-15 made locally they shouldn't be too expensive in self colour.
