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Spitfires ?

23 Dec 2011, 2:05pm
Mister Towed wrote:
That looks nice.

Could be based on the sort of Fennarri that a well known ginger dj might pay a zillion dollars for and then paint white... :nono:

if that reply was to me Mr Towed no it's a morgan believe it or not, pretty isn't it
baesd on a TR4 I believe
23 Dec 2011, 4:50pm
Very pretty ....not seen that before.

Distinct Ferrari styling as Towed says....
24 Dec 2011, 7:10am
I think the D25 is the right influence to fill the gap between the spyder and the G46

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=lancia+d25&hl=en&biw=1116&bih=619&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=XZ1rq9I-g_Vm_M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ritzsite.nl/Loo1999/10_Loo99.htm&docid=RxnbsEMBFCHKiM&imgurl=http://www.ritzsite.nl/Loo1999/Lancia_D25_1955.jpg&w=600&h=450&ei=3Hn1TqnnItG1hAe1_5nRAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=476&vpy=146&dur=5747&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=141&ty=94&sig=108812220347934584856&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0
24 Dec 2011, 9:38am
I'm sure Gary will come up with an evolution of the Spyder shape for the Spitfire chassis that'll do the brand justice, and the D25 look would certainly get my vote.

Gary, are there any press release pics of your flying panto Spyder in action? I'd love to see some, and, on that note, may I wish everyone on the forum a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS! :biggrin:
24 Dec 2011, 10:09am
I would just like to echo Mr Towed's sentiments, Happy Christmas one and all and a very productive New Year... Hope to see you all with the finished builds in 2012
Cheers Pops
24 Dec 2011, 6:58pm
Mister Towed wrote:
I'm sure Gary will come up with an evolution of the Spyder shape for the Spitfire chassis that'll do the brand justice, and the D25 look would certainly get my vote.

Gary, are there any press release pics of your flying panto Spyder in action? I'd love to see some, and, on that note, may I wish everyone on the forum a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS! :biggrin:



D25 ish styling is probably the way its going.....

If you look at the general shape of the car , you can see the Sammio-ness of it.....headlight covers may be a bit taxing but the shape tweaked a little could probably live wirthout them....

I am waiting for a video of the Super Sammio in action .....it was a bit of a secret initially but The Twins have promised me something in the new year....obviously as soon as I have it , I will post it.

Its bright Red with white roundalls and the number 7....
25 Dec 2011, 9:18am
Number 7 oh no!
9 Jan 2012, 8:05pm
lancelot link wrote:
D25 ish styling is probably the way its going.....

If you look at the general shape of the car , you can see the Sammio-ness of it.....headlight covers may be a bit taxing but the shape tweaked a little could probably live wirthout them....


Firstly , thanks for the link Nick - that would fit the bill nicely....

I have made some very conscious decisions over the weekend about the Cordite. Firstly , I spent some time round my friend , Chris ( Tribute Automotive ) Welch's house yesterday and he very kindly turned my ramblings into a photoshopped image of how I think the car should and could look. He wants to fine tune the image , add some better shut lines etc for me before hes happy for me to use it , but when I left it was looking the part and is very feasible.
I won't go into too much detail until I get my image back , possibly end of week as Chris is trying to be creative and constructive with his own project as well as suffering my passionate pleas for assistance !!


The car is very obviously a Sammio - no question.



The rear hasn't changed a great deal , only dimensionally to accept the Spit configuration. The bonnet has changed to allow for the taller engine. I am trying to avoid compulsory scoops and bulges as they aren't for everyone....I didn't want to restrict the appeal by forcing a race-look on every interested party....scoops and vents , blisters etc can always be added if thats your thing...
The reality of creating a real version may not pan out completely blister free , but hopefully it will.

I have taken some inspiration from an early 50's British car and an Italian one....stock 7'' headlights and no covers will feature rather than shrouded ones.

If everything goes to plan , the bonnet may be a 3rd option to be used on the original Sammio as well !

The other decision I have made is to build this one more like the Chevaux....By that I mean we won't be using the Spit bulkhead. This is primarily for 2 reasons. The Spit body doesn't naturally seperate in the way the Herald one does and there appears to be a lot of Spit chassis out there without bodies at all....this will allow those to be an option for people.

The frame will resemble the Chevaux with outriggers and a framework mimicking the bulkhead of the Spit will be part of it as well. 20x20 box will be used .
The front section will feature lowered outriggers to create footwells and plates will be in place to accept the stock pedal units/cylinders etc.....the body will feature a bulkhead top section and horizontal shelf that the pedals will hold down to the steel frame . Lower bulkhead will be created by bonding/sikkoflexing flat sheet to the framework....slightly more involved , but not much. Probably faster to build than repairing a rusty bulkhead !!

My development chassis should be here on Friday , so I can finally get going !
11 Jan 2012, 10:40pm
Heres the picture Chris has done for me ....Thank you Chris , pleased with that.

I know its a photoshop , but its pretty close ...I took some influence from 1953 Ferrari 375 and AC Ace front grilles and bonnet lines , the rear is clearly still SAMMIO.

The raised bonnet / larger grille is from necessity but I like it.

The body is approx 7'' shorter , screen is a full wrap , tail fin etc.

As well as the bonnet being optional to use with the existing Spyder / Chevaux packages ...I am hoping the screens , tail fin , doors etc can all be mixed and matched...

DIFFERENT BUT THE SAME .....

11 Jan 2012, 10:57pm
Very nice obviously from the same stable and yet different, I can see a lot of interest in this one, are there a lot more spit donors available at a good price?
Psycho..
11 Jan 2012, 11:03pm
Drop Dead Georgeous !
11 Jan 2012, 11:23pm
Looks very good Gary. I have been thinking that i will need to redo the bonnet to clear the Miata engine and tall shock mounts. I have been sketching one very similar to the Cordite photo shop pic. NOW SEND ME A NEW BONNET!
I like it a lot. The added bonus of the new look is that is farther away from Cobra looking. Nice job.
12 Jan 2012, 4:41am
Gary, Did you take the entire 7 inches out of the cockpit and left the rear bulkhead in the same location? If this is the case, will there be enough leg room? Or, are you having to move the back of the cockpit rearward? Not having ever seen the Sammio I don't know how the leg room is. Just curious.
12 Jan 2012, 7:38am
Really nice, I like that! Its a nice evolution of your design.
12 Jan 2012, 8:13am
beautiful baby

lancelot link wrote:
Heres the picture Chris has done for me ....Thank you Chris , pleased with that.

I know its a photoshop , but its pretty close ...I took some influence from 1953 Ferrari 375 and AC Ace front grilles and bonnet lines , the rear is clearly still SAMMIO.

The raised bonnet / larger grille is from necessity but I like it.

The body is approx 7'' shorter , screen is a full wrap , tail fin etc.

As well as the bonnet being optional to use with the existing Spyder / Chevaux packages ...I am hoping the screens , tail fin , doors etc can all be mixed and matched...

DIFFERENT BUT THE SAME .....



There is no question of who the father is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 Jan 2012, 8:16am
thanks chaps.....The changes should mean this one can be out there quite quickly ...

JMC - We shortened 7'' and then moved the screen forward approx 2'' and rear bulkhead back 5''.

When I did a one off a while back , thats how we kept the full cockpit space and gearstick positioning correct....
12 Jan 2012, 9:49am
Great bonnet!

I think you will have to introduce Mk1, Mk2's etc... the rate you are coming up with these updates.:eyebrows:
12 Jan 2012, 9:54am
Liking the squared off AC Ace style grille on the taller bonnet Gary. I think your Cordite could sell better even than the Spyder...:party:
12 Jan 2012, 2:14pm
It Is Really Lovely...

I CAN'T HELP LOOKING AT IT! But this will only inspire me to work harder on my Spyder:eusa_pray:
12 Jan 2012, 2:35pm
Love the colour. Looks like the Morris colour I had on my Austin.

12 Jan 2012, 3:18pm
Gary,
That looks bloody lovely.....next one for me I think:first:
12 Jan 2012, 6:18pm
Fabulous, Gary!

Great stance, gorgeous colour... Looking forward to seeing the prototype as you develop it!

One concern I always had with the Spyder was the use of the Herald chassis - as a Triumph enthusiast I'm always sorry to see saloons disappear, people always seem to prefer to hold on to the convertibles ! Meaning that in my mind there are more than enough Spitfires around :eusa_angel:


By the way, will the new bonnet accomodate the 6 cylinder without additional blisters/scoops ?

cheers
Baz from Brussels
12 Jan 2012, 6:50pm
GOD! i've got to get skippy painted,
12 Jan 2012, 7:27pm
Alpha wrote:


By the way, will the new bonnet accomodate the 6 cylinder without additional blisters/scoops ?

cheers
Baz from Brussels


I don't know Baz !!

Height wise it should if alternative carb inlet manifold etc used .....I think its the 2000 style one that puts the carbs lower ? Phil Jacklin was telling me the other day , but I have forgotten !! Sorry engines aren't my thang !

BTW ...The picture used was the old 66 car but we scaled the wheels down to 14'' and dropped the body a bit to allow for slightly smaller wheels....

Mike is very confident we can recreate that bonnet as shown , so hopefully the photoshop picture is going to be pretty accurate.....

I agree this one could be even better than the original Spyder...