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Don't forget to post lots of pictures for those of us that can not make it.

No pics i'm afraid, although i think Trevor may have taken some?

There is simply nothing like Orca out there although i think that due to the sheer size i would need a bigger garage to build her in! Talk about 'presence'! I can imagine hammering up the outside lane of a motorway, everyone will simply getting the heck out of the way

Seeing her next to the Spyder was cool as well as you can see the family resemblance, although the one thing i would say is that a Dick Dastardly mustache may be a necessity when driving as it does have an air of 'cad' about it. In the nicest possible sense

Ditto the word presence does sum it up, quite a machine piccy's don't do it justice, killer whale (orca) yep..Pat

Saw the beast at the Exeter show, which confirmed what the earlier pictures conveyed.....

I am growing the Dick Dastardly moustache as I write!

If anyone was to be so disparaging as to call it a 'plastic pig' or 'pOrca' let me know and I'll set Mutley on them.

In the meantime where's my cheque book....?

free scimitar buts its an se6 not sure if thats any good?

just found this ..nothing to do with me and its in Scotland so probably only worth someone up there grabbing it

Reliant Scimitar SE6 - Free to a good home For Sale (1976)

I have owned this vehicle since 1979. It was used as a family car continuously until 1995, since that time it has been laid up in my garage. It is complete undamaged and unmodified. Engine and running gear have not been exercised during layup. Recorded genuine mileage is 125000.

Advert Type: For Sale
Category: Classic Cars
Make: Reliant
Model: Scimitar SE6
Year: 1976
Country: UK
Region: Scotland
Town: Montrose
Telephone: 07043 241101 (Privacy Service)
Status: Private
E-mail: Contact Advertiser via Email
Listing Date: 01-Oct-2011

Thanks for the praise chaps - We were a little upset we ran out of time to get the body as far as we would have like ...time beat us but I think most people 'got it' and could see where it was heading.

We have actually had a very good day on it today ...Mike has started fashioning headlights and I started the patterning for the frame work inside.

The frame will concentrate mainly on the cockpit area , supporting central body and dash area as well as big steel side steps tying both ends together and creating a strong seat belt mount position....front end will be possibly a flip front now as the process of reaching over the wings to get to an opening to work on the engine might be a bit awkward as the car is so fat ! A C-TYPE style flip front would sort that out ....rear of the car will be bonded / glassed to the original Scim. floor and inner arches.

heres the latest pics....

We Dream Of Orca !!

My dad spoke to you last year when the Orca was "but a twink in your eye". Been following the web site and these forums and we both congratulate you for being imaginative, The G46 has to be the thinking man's Cobra!

Would have come to Exeter but decided to do this instead:
http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/charmantech1/?action=view&current=IMG_0340.jpg

He he RIP SE5a
http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/charmantech1/?action=view&current=IMG_0341.jpg

What does this need now ? Oh we know it needs a Sammio G46!

Chassis was done over the winter and re bracketed for a spare rover V8 we have in the garage. Car is on SORN and we hope we can change the engine details now on the Reg Doc and then simple
y but the body on and drive!

http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/m637/charmantech1/?action=view&current=IMG_0348.jpg

Hope to be the first V8 G46

Now how do we order?

Charlie & Peter.

HI,
WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE FAIRLY COMMITTED !!

Thank you for the comments and it looks like you are ready !

My local VRO ( Stuart ) tells me that you can change your engine without compromising your SVA exemption , within reason ....a V8 Rover will be fine - I think you may need to modify your bulkhead slightly but nothing too drastic.

I will pm you details of payment of deposit , order details etc.....


We took one definite order at the show for one of these , received confirmation from another show attendee that their cheque is on the way , have had consultations with a Spanish guy thats looking very positive and have had a dutch guy lurking in the wings for a while that I am pretty confident about and now yourselves...so its starting to happen !

I think I probably need to sell 10 to get my expenses back !

THANK YOU

Just checked my emails and its looking quite cool....lots of enquiries about the G46 ...It's interesting to see how many people lurk on here ...they have obviously read posts on this forum from the way they talk or ask questions etc...I have had a 'when can you start' email from Spain and Michael from Holland is starting to cut his car this weekend !

I'm surprised by the interest in this one compared to the 550 ....I thought that would be the popular one ( Porsche replica's are usually a safe bet )..I'm guessing the more exciting lines and base car are whats bring Orca to everyones attention...

Today I made my first pattern frame to create a jig ....this frame is a pattern and will not be how they are supplied - all frames are now being made by a local fabrication company ...I supply a pattern and they jig it and keep it as a measuring example ...

The picture is pretty cr*p and the extremely busy bench behind doesn't help , but basically its a double front hoop with steering column mount that goes across the front, a rear hoop with stays fitted to rear inner arches ( these will be fully glassed to new body , so nice and strong ) and front and rear tied together with folded cill steps and plates up the A and B posts that are tied into the hoops front and rear also...the centre of the body will be bolted around the door apertures , along rear cockpit and dash , bulkhead and body sides glassed to the Scim bulkhead and rear bulkhead , inner rear arches etc all will be bonded in ply to new body and existing...The body will still come off complete with floor/bulkhead etc. if needed...This is important for SVA exemption - a stock Scim body could go back on with no mods....

THIS WILL BE INCREDIBLY STRONG....

Second pic shows car with flip front started and the voids we need to fill with ply etc...

I am thinking that I may supply paper patterns for the front sections of ply and possibly rear inners and bulkhead ....

Looking good and congratulations on the response. I hope that the G46 is a huge success for you.

Thank you John.....The build concept is much the same as the original Spyder - it seems to have worked before.......

1950's styled car built pretty much how they were 50-60 years ago !!


We managed to get a bit done today ....

Although the progress shots aren't incredibly interesting and not many visual changes apparent , its all part of showing how we 'stage build' the cars....I know people fing the 'getting started' bit of the website useful - if nothing else it gets people into the correct mind set to build the cars on the level they are built ....low tech and low price !

We cut out the bulkhead pieces and glassed them in place...really stiffens up the car and fills those big gaps between original bulkhead and new body...the 'step' on top of the lower wing panel will house a latch or pin setup to locate the flip front whilst down.

Future bodies will be supplied with some of this bulkhead moulded onto the body to locate the car onto the Scim bulkhead....




second pic shows a new moulding taking shape ...

Patrice , the owner of this car has requested single tonneau and single screen for his example...we already offer the D-type STYLE centre bar as an option on the Spyders but have never really made a mould for it ....I have a feeling the bigger G46 might generate more requests for the centre divider , so Mike has started making a plug for a mould ...this piece can be used on eiither cars as , surprisingly , the Spyder and 46 are roughly the same cockpit length !



I think it looks really good ....and emulates the Jag that has had some influence on this car ..




THANKS FOR READING .....

Centrer Bar

Charlie and I are loving the centre bar, would it work with a full screen and a second head rest fairing.

What really looks cool is the photo of the "C" / "D" type with the single wrap around screen with the passenger side plug in place. But then we would have to build a car each, now that's an idea!!!!!!!!

The passenger headrest idea has merit I think, is this an option Gary ? if so might help me pursuade the missus to embrace the idea of spending a few grand and lonely nights while I'm in the garage (mind you I'm sure there's always some B****cks on the telly ! Gary, I've been in touch before but this forum might be an easier route for communication. Cheers, Richard P.S. This project is a cracking idea and well done for seeing it through, I'm sure it'll be a great success.

My young ladies daughter pointed out to her " you know were he is when in the garage". Gary can do any fink solong as it's glass fibre...PAT

My wife is irked as i've now installed heating in the garage and also two hooks for my hammock for when i'm "pondering" what to do next. I will do the windows on the main house..... soon

Please don't let me stop you building two ...!!!

Heres a pic of split cockpit , full screen on a D-type....looks pretty cool to me ..



As far as split cockpit full screen , two humps goes ....I think it would be ok....don't paint it black though ...with red bat logo's ....!!

The beauty of the concept , as with the original Sammio , is they are flexible ...only restricted by finances and time , not imagination ....replica's dont have this exciting edge as you have to conform to their factory options to be considered 'accurate' and fit in ...

I am thinking about doing a D-type / Cunningham style tail fin as an extra as well....not as harsh , a subtler version

I know its all a bit Jaguar-ish but the cars will look very different....

We got some smoothing out done today and finished the glasswork on the bonnet.....

The mould needs to be put back on now , cut and remade to include these new features....all these mods will be done by the w/end ....hopefully !!




The next few pics show the cutline for the bonnet and how its beginning to shape up.....








Headlight detail etc is clearly shown as well.....The car is really starting to happen !!

looking back at the pics , its funny how short the bonnet looks when cocked - it is pretty long in reality....the car is 14' long and the cockpit is 2'' shorter than the Sammio Spyder !

Paid Gary and Mike a visit today and fell in love!!!
Not with them but the sleak looking lady at the back of the workshop called a G-46!!
It's got the "x" factor for me!!
Liked the Spyder too so I ordered one of them as well!!
Got a Simitar but need a Herald can anybody help?
Regards
Mike

Hi Mike,


Seriously?

Well done! Welcome to the mad house.


Trevor.
http://www.sammiospyder.blogspot.com/

This looks like it would be worth a look as a potential donor:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120802833853?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Not sure where you are in the country, but the herald is in Fakenham, Norfolk, which is in mine and psychopops neck of the woods.

Good luck finding a suitable donor and welcome to the club.

You sure about that ? .....you were looking at Mike a little odd .....!!

Seriously though ....it was good to meet you today and throw some ideas about...Another builder who 'gets it ' and can see the massive potential in these cars.....

I am really chuffed that we are getting deposits on a body package that we haven't quite finished yet....it's great that people can see where we are going .....

We have remoulded the front scuttle area of the car , so bodies with seperate flip fronts are ready to go now....we have secured 5 kits with deposits received and are expecting the first one to be ready in about 2-3 weeks from now....so nike55 , get ready , we are coming to get you !!

I am getting more interest in these initially than we did with the original Spyders , so hopefully a few will be turning up on these pages soon....

EXCITING TIMES !!


This Heralds not too far along the M4 from you .....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-HERALD-1200-GREY-/320786662637?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ab06004ed

Well, I'm ready - but not sure you will be able to handle the workload once the world see's 'my' take on the G46...

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That's whats so great about this car you look at it and your mind starts working out how your going to "make it fit" in your own way.

Each one should turn out as individual as the builder.

This car could be a real star!!!

One or two humps

[QUOTE=lancelot link;23773]Please don't let me stop you building two ...!!!

Heres a pic of split cockpit , full screen on a D-type....looks pretty cool to me ..



As far as split cockpit full screen , two humps goes ....I think it would be ok....don't paint it black though ...with red bat logo's ....!!


Yes, time for the men in "white coats" Charlie and I are decided, split cock pit single drivers hump full screen. The jag cockpit is exactly that a "spitfire cockpit" wings optional!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like to pop down and see you week after next will call you first

Should we start our own thread? ie build diary

YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL BY ANYTIME - You might be best advised to give us a little notice to just make sure we are about , we usually are ...the only appt. I have soon is the Orca Inspection...probably next week...

We have managed to get a bit more done on the car ....Mike concentrated on the rear end (his speciality !! ) and I stayed up front....

I have made a bolt on subframe , needs to be bolt on to keep us the right side of SVA , that enables me to hang the bonnet...some simple 'rabbit ear' brackets and 1'' box have made this job pretty straight forward....

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Mike meanwhile started cutting a bootlid....we had initially thought about leaving the boot area up to the builders choice , but pretty much everyone who has enquired wants to use that dead space....we have cut a hatch that is big enough to get a spare wheel through. It works really well as a spare fits in really nice and with the front of the wheel sat where a natural bulkhead can go inside the body , the spare just pokes ot , leaving a little room behind for a small jack or wheelbrace etc.
There is still two obvious boot space sections where the original back seat was and these can be accessed in the cockpit through hatches in the rear bulkhead ....so basically , the rarely touched spare etc is tucked away in the back , adding a bit of ballast at the same time and anything you want more regular - maps , picnic , tent etc can be kept seperate up the front section of the rear....
The bootlid itself can be either hinged or fitted with locating pins , quarter turn latches , zeus fasteners , whatever !!





Obviously , if someone doesn't want the bootlid , it can be filled in and glassed over by us....

I have been toying with making some dummy Rudge style wheels recently as well ....well actually they have been going on for about 6 months !!

Rudge knock on steels were used on 1950's Mercedes cars , Gullwings etc as well as turning up on Porsche 356's over the years as well....genuine examples now change hands for thousands of pounds EACH as they are pretty desirable in those circles ....

The slotted rims are very similar to the early Porsche / VW rims , so I am starting with that and making some 'knock on ' style hubcaps ....The Beetle rims will be fitted on adaptors and then these caps will be bolted on to the wheel studs to hold in place ...dummy rivets around the edge and the centre ring eventually will help give the look as well as a bit of tube in the centre and a spinner ....they aren't replica's of a Rudge but they are '' in the same style as '' and could be an interesting option to fitting wires ....