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What would you like Chris to build you?

23 Apr 2016, 1:08pm
It does surprise me that Ferrari have not been more vocal in this area, especially with copying of their newer models, same with Lamborghini. I can only guess their legal teams know something we don't.
23 Apr 2016, 2:48pm
Aston Martin don't hold back . I remember the Aston Convertible at Exeter a few years back that had a cover put on it and then was removed from the arena and I think Evanta have had issues with their cars too , but only know that third hand but can see they have changed their distinctive grille aperture to a more generic shape on the Barchetta , which incidently is stunning ,and , interestingly , is limited to a production run of 49 cars ....
23 Apr 2016, 3:50pm
Ah the Evanta :love:

Love this car but beyond my budget by some margin I would imagine. Think I'm right in saying that Aston Martin managed to trademark their front grille design which would probably have been the major problem for the original Evanta, plus I recall it being promoted as a DB4 Zagato replica which wouldn't have helped. Redesign is still lovely though.
23 Apr 2016, 4:15pm
lancelot link wrote:


There was also a french guy building Ferrari replicas around that time ..he was using Ferrari parts and they were being registered as Ferrari's ...He was being taken to court by Ferrari , but it was looking like he might win on a technicality ....Just before the case was finished , he ''committed suicide'' in a hotel room ...



My memory is fading; I'd thought that he'd had his corporate counsel pass 'his' designs through the French Copyright Office (the Bureau de la Propriété Littéraire et Artistique) to establish their creation date, and that the paper trail was sufficient to act as its own ruling on the case, if you will. Once the copyright's been registered, the legal presumption (in most jurisdictions) is that the Offices Patent have performed their due diligence, and that therefore the copyrighted design is its own intellectual property. (Caveat / Disclaimer: I'm not schooled in Jurisprudence [nor in anything of particular value, really], and on the whole, am probably only slightly above the intelligence level of an Austin Allegro's connecting rods, and marginally less illuminating than ___________ [insert your favourite Lucas product here] ).

My off-the-cuff jest regarding making molds directly from a God-awfully expensive motorcar was doubtless in poor taste for varied reasons, but it does, I believe, beg the question, "what's creative and what's forgery?" I'd think (and here, I mean anyone with a bit of common sense, and not necessarily any bureaucrat, of course) that a panel beater who'd constructed his or her own bucks and then hammered sheets to form a motorcar body should have a rather fair margin of leeway regarding copyright, since the creative process is the manufacture of something decidedly original. Likewise, I'd expect that someone who'd sculpted their own model, in whatsoever medium or media they chose, and drew production moulds from that model, should likewise enjoy sufficient "protection" of their intellectual property - no matter against which existing designs their inspiration might have sprung - that their local Copyright Offices would scarce consider denying them the proper paperwork and magic numbers with which they might be assured that they could carry on their business without some overly litigious billion dollar corporation laying claim that the poor chap was infringing upon their Trade (and I'd further suspect that, in the event that they did face such a situation, that a countersuit for Restraint Of Trade would nearly instantly convince the larger corporation's legal staff to seek out and to pursue a less well-protected kit car maker).

Lastly, before one or all of you chaps suggest it, I will - as soon as I click the "post" button - change my username here to ThatAmericanPrattler.

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23 Apr 2016, 5:12pm
ThatAmericanChap wrote:
that their local Copyright Offices would scarce consider denying them the proper paperwork and magic numbers with which they might be assured that they could carry on their business without some overly litigious billion dollar corporation laying claim that the poor chap was infringing upon their Trade (and I'd further suspect that, in the event that they did face such a situation, that a countersuit for Restraint Of Trade would nearly instantly convince the larger corporation's legal staff to seek out and to pursue a less well-protected kit car maker).



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But the reality of the situation is that the small trader wouldn't be able to afford the lawyers to protect his copyright- the large corporation will always crush the small trader!
29 Apr 2016, 7:10pm
The Vignale version here:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KIo.ACsSNXWhcAAEgsnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=ferrari+225s+berlinetta&vid=b46b36d97677c2d8679971c81e012b77&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.Vca21cc84f087e2a207267dead0ef11b5%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D132%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7YcgMhjbwYY&tit=FERRARI+225S+BERLINETTA+VIGNALE+1952+-+Mille+Miglia+2014+-+V12+Engine+sound+|+SCC+TV&c=0&h=132&w=300&l=131&sigr=11bpbum8d&sigt=12kjtjtp1&sigi=1317r4b5p&age=1421748254&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhs-mozilla-003&hsimp=yhs-003&hspart=mozilla&tt=b
3 May 2016, 6:51am
Some peple have too much money.
While others are making the humble MR2 look like a lambo
These guys are making their lambo look like the batmobile from the latest computer game
In full carbon fibre and the details are all there this must cost a fortune.

https://youtu.be/fQUTjm3iXMk
5 May 2016, 5:13pm
Back on the subject of "what I would like Chris to build me"


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5 May 2016, 8:50pm
What could work on a mk3 mr2.ideas? I did see a lambo kit made on it with optional windscreen. But they don't seem to be at any of the shows so never know whether to trust sites like that. Maybe lotus exige shell. Panels are around 3k as original not sure what the difference in dimensions would be. Maybe a stretched lancia stratos more leg room and wipers that don't come off at high speed like the one on top gear
6 May 2016, 6:23am
zagmad wrote:
What could work on a mk3 mr2.ideas? I did see a lambo kit made on it with optional windscreen. But they don't seem to be at any of the shows so never know whether to trust sites like that. Maybe lotus exige shell. Panels are around 3k as original not sure what the difference in dimensions would be. Maybe a stretched lancia stratos more leg room and wipers that don't come off at high speed like the one on top gear


I have my suspicions that Clarkson started out to prove his preconceived notion that anything built with spanners by a man in a shed would be useless. The wiper coming off was probably a setup, and if you stand on the brakes while cornering in a short-wheelbase car it's not going to stop in a straight line.

Funnily enough, when Hammond and May tested a real Stratos they loved it, even though it's acknowledged as being one of the most difficult cars to drive on the road, in the world...
6 May 2016, 8:34am
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mr-s&view=detailv2&&id=A7D3D11DA15038C783C48412F5261FAF33601772&selectedIndex=48&ccid=4%2f%2bsRSaM&simid=608020924601076406&thid=OIP.Me3ffac45268cd24beb3d08629322dcb7o0&ajaxhist=0 Toyota mr2 (mr-s)
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hybrid+918&view=detailv2&&id=BF3E1FF3863DAFA80D553B8B8F9256B5EFCDC4E9&selectedIndex=25&ccid=ReTBP896&simid=608029935445346124&thid=OIP.M45e4c13fcf7a9b9f60f39e8a8d06af5do0&ajaxhist=0Porsche 919
Screen looks right proportions are good
6 May 2016, 3:24pm
People have made Ferrari reps from it and panels that bolt on like the z3 . I was just thinking of finding panels from a car that exists and shortening them to fit. Spose its finding a crashed ferrari/porsche with panels that are going cheap. Standard they don't really inspire but with a new shell would look quite awesome. Plus no bonding if it just bolts using the original bolt points. Also looked at the lotus m100 but some might say it wrong to change the shape . Always reminded me of a lambo. Not sure why. Minus the pop up lights and tailights
9 May 2016, 6:02pm
Posted this photo on the new Sammio Spyder thread "next door" and thought I'd add it to this thread too.

1964 CD Panhard Le Mans

9 May 2016, 6:21pm
Very low rocket.
9 May 2016, 7:05pm
Mmmm lovely, would make interesting reactions methinks
17 May 2016, 12:20pm
I would love this front end. An S2 Cobra front bumper from Japan.

There doesn't appear to be a UK importer. There is a US one who will ship to the UK. Overall cost would be around £1000.

19 May 2016, 6:32pm
Here's a thought. Mix an Alfa Romeo 105 coupe with an Alfa Romeo Montréal. What do you get
21 May 2016, 3:07pm
1953 ASTON MARTIN DB3S please












This one is on sale at auction today with a £6-7m estimate :scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
21 May 2016, 3:29pm
Looking at the seat design, it takes bigger balls to be a driver than it does to be the navigator:icon_lol: