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Ericholm 250 SWB Build thread

25 Jul 2017, 11:10am
After I had a bare metal respray on my E-type, I just couldn't bring myself to fit the stick on front number plate, I just knew it would go on wonky with bubbles underneath. I ended up with a magnetic vinyl front number plate, only problem was that when you picked up speed it would slide up the bonnet until it hit the bonnet bulge, then it would fly off never to be seen again.
I had a few made but in the end just kept one on the passenger seat and ran with no front number plate. Never got a tug for it and I used it as my everyday car commuting from Hemel to Windsor.
25 Jul 2017, 12:35pm
Jaguartvr wrote:
After I had a bare metal respray on my E-type, I just couldn't bring myself to fit the stick on front number plate, I just knew it would go on wonky with bubbles underneath. I ended up with a magnetic vinyl front number plate, only problem was that when you picked up speed it would slide up the bonnet until it hit the bonnet bulge, then it would fly off never to be seen again.
I had a few made but in the end just kept one on the passenger seat and ran with no front number plate. Never got a tug for it and I used it as my everyday car commuting from Hemel to Windsor.

Lol just got an image of your number plate flying away:icon_smile:

Yeah I had a Stag for years with no number plate attached. Instead I had it on the passenger sun visor on two rubber bands, to flip down when needed. Never got a tug
25 Jul 2017, 12:39pm
What were your suspension upgrades? Was that because of the wheels (I know some have had turning issues with some wheel specs) or because you needed to lower the body anyway? Tx
25 Jul 2017, 12:41pm
Shaggy wrote:
Lol just got an image of your number plate flying away:icon_smile:

Yeah I had a Stag for years with no number plate attached. Instead I had it on the passenger sun visor on two rubber bands, to flip down when needed. Never got a tug



Did you develop the Stag squint?

Where one eye looks forward and the other eye is always on the temperature gauge?
25 Jul 2017, 1:12pm
When I bought my Noble P4 I didn't notice it had no front number plate for at least a month!
25 Jul 2017, 4:21pm
Barber wrote:
What were your suspension upgrades? Was that because of the wheels (I know some have had turning issues with some wheel specs) or because you needed to lower the body anyway? Tx


Hi, yep needed to adjust suspension to get gaps right and have flexibility on movement. Also front Z3 suspension has sticking out part that means restrictions on tyre sizes.
25 Jul 2017, 4:32pm
Shaggy wrote:
Having studied those pictures last night (jealous much) I reckon your beauty could do with a smaller number plate on the front. The plate on the No.7 doesn't detract from the beautiful design

Obviously just for shows like *wink*


As others have said, really don't want a pull so will stick with what I have, also pretty much replicates the 1961 No.14 well so not really bothered, but get your point. I have the modern plates in the boot to easily swap if needed (2 screws and they are swapped).

Cheers and thanks for the comments they are appreciated! :welcome:

Bruce Meyer's 1961 Ferrari 250 GT SWB SEFAC by eric holm, on Flickr

IMG_0539 by eric holm, on Flickr
25 Jul 2017, 5:46pm
ericholm wrote:
Hi, yep needed to adjust suspension to get gaps right and have flexibility on movement. Also front Z3 suspension has sticking out part that means restrictions on tyre sizes.


Thanks, i will budget it in. What was your choice?
25 Jul 2017, 6:51pm
Barber wrote:
Thanks, i will budget it in. What was your choice?


Ebay £159.99 Z3 coilovers

Here is a pretty much complete list of the costs bourne on this car, save a few items:

Price Item Comments

£160.00 Tax 6 months
£12.00 Tyre fitting Kipling
£32.00 RAC Tesco vouchers
£35.00 MOT brake and service world
£40.00 Aircon regas brake and service world
£75.00 MOT Kipling
£733.08 New clutch and fly wheel Autowerx
£100.00 Deposit
£120.00 No. 14 decals - ebay
£1,000.00 Kit deposit
£24.95 Gaiters Ebay
£29.50 Foot plates Ebay
£6.50 Toggle Switch Ebay
£40.69 Car Mats Ebay
£8.36 Oil filler cap Ebay
£29.92 White dial kit Ebay
£25.00 Start Button s2000
£15.99 Airbag reset tool Ebay
£25.00 Analouge Clock Ebay
£34.98 Leather look film Foliatec
£54.90 Gear Knob Ebay
£25.00 Brake lever Ebay
£19.00 Oil Morrisons
£70.33 Steering Boss Ebay
£211.32 Wooden Steering Wheel Demon tweeks
£4.95 Door lock sorounds Ebay
£16.29 Hazard soround Ebay
£132.00 Rear Springs Europarts
£2.49 Seatbelt pin Ebay
£62.28 Rear Brakes discs Europarts
£25.34 Spacer steering wheel Ebay
£6.90 2 x SRS fuse Ebay
£12.99 2 x top shock mounts Ebay
£62.98 Front Brakes Europarts
£1.95 Door panel clips Ebay
£13.42 Seat bushes Ebay
£14.98 Chrome air filter Ebay
£2.44 Steering wheel nuts/bolts Ebay
£3.99 Stereo adapter Ebay
£108.90 Stereo Classic car stereo . Com
£43.32 Mirror vintagecarparts.co.uk
£3.98 Mirror magnets Ebay
£20.76 Chrome door handle surrounds Ebay
£25.18 Indicator stalks Germany
£8.20 Sealant Ebay
£3.25 Jubilee clips large for fuel pipe Ebay
£4.98 Chrome jacking cap Ebay
£7.99 Chrome jacking cap Ebay
£44.00 Chrome internal parts FMW .de
£7.99 Red reflector Fog led lights Ebay
£11.10 Tax disc holder Ebay
£2.55 Tube caps ebay
£149.00 Tyres ebay
£486.00 Wheels Demon tweeks
£92.83 Side repeaters OKP.DE
£52.50 Boot and door handles Ebay
£140.68 Rear brake/ind. Hook latch & boot stay Europa parts
£80.50 Front ind, rims, no. plate lights SVC
£58.47 Plates [url]www.platesforcars.co.uk[/url]
£29.90 2 x headlamp bowl Ebay
£4.45 Oil filter tool Ebay
£41.73 Spinners Ebay
£1.99 Trim tool Ebay
£49.95 P700 headlights Ebay
£4.94 Hole drill set Ebay
£15.90 Number plate surround Ebay
£21.50 Boot hinges Ebay
£14.90 Chrome wrap Ebay
£4.60 Fuel t parts Ebay
£2.39 Fuel elbow parts Ebay
£19.99 Bump stops Ebay
£20.00 55 Tyre Ebay
£40.00 55 Tyre Ebay
£16.00 2 x single bulb holder for indicators SVC
£25.00 2 x tyres fitted kipling
£3.99 100 crimps Ebay
£9.99 Breather Ebay
£75.00 Tonneau cover Ebay
£4.85 washer piper reducer 6mm to 3mm Ebay
£1.85 1m x 3mm washer pipe Ebay
£159.99 Coilovers Ebay
£30.00 21.5mm pads rear springs Ebay
£185.00 Various items from Newark autojumble Newark
£60.00 2 x 235/55/17 tyres Ebay
£20.00 2 x tyre fitting Kipling
£7.99 5mm wheel spacers Ebay
£14.50 Dremel disc set Ebay
£2.99 Boot switch Ebay
£57.00 Car cover Ebay
£63.95 Number roundels Prestige parts.co.uk
£2.99 Flag for dash Ebay
£35.00 Door trim Woolies
£10.00 LED side repeater lights and holder ebay
£25.00 twin rear roundel number lights ebay
£44.00 Ferrari bonnet badge ebay
£152.70 Ferrari grill and rear badge eurospares.co.uk - Harry
£57.84 Bonnet Struts SGS
£28.49 Boot seal Ebay £22.84
£130.00 Bonnet screen and bracket Paul
£7.00 Leather strap screws and 1/2 nuts ebay
£15.00 Leather strap replacements TKMaxx
£162.34 Fuel cap, pipes Carbuilder solutions
£62.00 Connector/crimp tool/badge Carbuilder solutions
£159.00 Wires, nuts bolts, bulbs, etc. Carbuilder solutions
£17.89 Chrome jacking cap x 2 Ebay
£12.70 Pu18 x 4 Ebay
£66.34 Various tools and bolts Wickes
£340.00 Exhaust Custom Chrome, Nuneaton
£190.00 delivey of kit Tribute
£1,950.00 Kit Tribute
£12.61 Blue stripe and tools ebay
£192.00 Blue stripe and fitting Charmeleon
£49.00 ABS sheet wheel arc liner Eagle plastics
£20.00 Various sprays Maplin and B&Q
£45.26 Inj cleaner, slick 50, air freshner, rust remover Halfords
£5.80 Odor bomb Ebay
£14.99 Caliper paint Ebay
£4.40 Wire brushes Ebay
£19.95 Liquid Leather Ebay
£20.00 Jack and stands Ebay
£6.99 Torx set Ebay
£19.26 HPI Check All Clear
£90.00 Laser cut brackets for front screen Local metal worker

Petrol cap http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5232&highlight=light&page=2
Gen Parts http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4261&highlight=light&page=40


Headlights P700 £50 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Austin-Mini-Domed-P700-7-Halogen-Headlight-Head-Lamp-Tripod-Conversion-/261728684108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf03ec84c
Boot lock Europa spares flat hook type bn3bll £6 http://www.europaspares.com/flat-hook-latch.html
Indicators, tail /brake £96 [url]www.europaspares.com[/url]
Fog light Ebay
Number plate lights 2 x £10 each SVC http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/550-type-no--plate-lamp--frogeye/
handles & boot lock ebay - £52.50 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-CHROME-DOOR-HANDLE-SET-WITH-KEYS-MK3-ONWARDS-CZH1785-EXHS-/121573064173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c4e51bded
Headlight rim SVC - Cobra £20
indicators SVC £32 pair http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/product/l594-lucas-clear-lens-indicator--pair-/
side repeaters,* http://www.okp.de/xtc2/Ferrari/55-Lighting/Indicators/Side-marker-Ferrari-250-275-Lancia-Fulvia::17882.html
boot stay [url]www.europaspares.com[/url]
Number plates
Headlight bowl £30 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-MINI-7-PLASTIC-HEADLIGHT-BACK-BOWL-BUCKET-CUP-RETAINER-RING-NEW-/181776448060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a52b87a3c
Spinner http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-new-chrome-plated-spinner-caps-5-16-bolt-on-3-blade-sweep-rat-rod-mag-wheels-/361330945531
Number plate surround http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Bertone-GTV-rear-Number-plate-surround-Brand-new-/161636705537?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a24c6501
Boot hinges, any triumph type external chrome or internal modified mx5 type http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOOT-HINGES-GASKETS-FOR-TRIUMPH-SPITFIRE-MK1-MK11-MK111-604917-8-/251625115431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Car+Make%3ATriumph&hash=item3a96068f27
Fuel cap £162.34 - car builder solutions - AST100, FFF51 & ALIT50
bonnet electric loom to connect lights,* Car builder solutions
washer jets,* Newark autojumble £2 each
Door mirrors Newark autojumble £30 for pair of bullet mirrors
Front Fog lights and brackets £100 for the pair Newark Autojumble
Hood cover £75 ebay
bonnet pins for small bonnet opening Nubodi £150
Rear rally number lights - ebay £13 each http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Number-plate-map-light-lamp-replaces-Lucas-L534-for-MGB-MGB-GT-MG-Midget-/301243974028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item46238a418c

Plus I reckon 1000 hours in total bringing the whole lot together. Not including all the various trips to see cars, talk to people and even visit the Ferrari Museum in Italy with camera and ruler! Prep and painting are not included, nor is cost of buying base car, nor is insurance costs, and running costs. Minus the money I got for selling the Z3 parts, so a total of around £1m in my making! :becky::becky::becky:
25 Jul 2017, 7:02pm
Prep and painting are one of the biggest costs. Don't forget to knock off the cost of parts sold, every little helps.
I would strongly suggest you delete this post, if your wife comes across it you will be sleeping in the garage with the car!
25 Jul 2017, 7:11pm
Jaguartvr wrote:
Prep and painting are one of the biggest costs. Don't forget to knock off the cost of parts sold, every little helps.
I would strongly suggest you delete this post, if your wife comes across it you will be sleeping in the garage with the car!


Agreed on paint and prep, She got a dog out of the deal and gawd only knows how much that little fella has cost us, think I got off lightly!
25 Jul 2017, 7:25pm
Look on the bright side, she could have wanted more children, you might have got off lightly with a dog!
14 Aug 2017, 8:29pm
Hi Andy,

So your wheel and tyre configuration is (I think):
Front, Vintage Calibre 17" 8J ET35, 235 x 50
Rear, Vintage Calibre 17" 8J ET35, 235 x 55
Cheers
26 Aug 2017, 4:31pm
Hi Barber, sorry for no response as been out of country on hols for last few weeks!

I have on the car:

Rear 17" x 8 ET35 Tyre 235/55/17 Dunlop Sport
Front 17" x 8 ET35 Tyre 225/50/17 Dunlop Sport

Fronts I have a 5mm spacer to make it clear the turning circle and not rub on the inside of the arches at full lock.

Cheers. :thumb:
26 Aug 2017, 5:22pm
No problem Andy,
Thanks for the confirnation, that will be really useful. What brand of spacertain was it?
26 Aug 2017, 5:40pm
Barber wrote:
No problem Andy,
Thanks for the confirnation, that will be really useful. What brand of spacertain was it?


No particular brand, think it was universal spacer, ebay purchase, nothing special. :icon_lol:

5mm wheel spacers £7.99 Ebay


Cheers.
28 Aug 2017, 12:08pm
Meet today

Great to meet JagTVR today :peace: share hints/tips and have a look around each others cars, I love the blue colour and the attention to detail with the extra small modifications done to enhance the car particularly on the bodywork, that I don't have the skill set to undertake myself. There are so many things that can be completed in different ways to each owners preference, no 2 cars will ever be the same, which is another thing I love about these builds.

You might just about be able to see in the photos that there is a noticable difference in the height of the front of the 2 cars, Jag's is lower than mine, and gives it a different stance, probably due to the wheel sizes and the adjustment on my coilovers.

@Jag TVR, good to talk and am sure you will make good use of the plastic sheeting! I'll be watch with interest for more progress :eyebrows:

Here are some pictures of the 2 cars together:

_Img_1473 by eric holm, on Flickr

_Img_1465 by eric holm, on Flickr

_Img_1458 by eric holm, on Flickr

_Img_1483 by eric holm, on Flickr

_Img_1480 by eric holm, on Flickr

_Img_1479 by eric holm, on Flickr
28 Aug 2017, 1:22pm
Thanks for the plastic Andy, it will be put to good use.
The silver on No 14 looks much better in the flesh than it does in a photo, not that it doesn't look good in a photo.

One thing that might help other builders, if you look at the rear reflectors on No14 they look like the Lucas reflectors but are in fact LED lights which act as the rear fog light. Very nice touch on a very nice car.
28 Aug 2017, 2:58pm
Two beautiful looking Tributes!
28 Aug 2017, 5:17pm
I agree, two very attractive looking cars.
28 Aug 2017, 5:49pm
Great photos. :cool:
28 Aug 2017, 7:04pm
Nice!
29 Aug 2017, 8:31am
Very nice cars guys, great to see two fine examples together. Gives all of us yet to build plenty of inspiration. Cheers.
29 Aug 2017, 4:39pm
Thanks for the nice comments everyone! can't wait to see all of your cars too! :icon_smile: