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Looking to use the Alfa rear screen only thing is I have to drive their as they wont deliver due to its fragile nature. Gonna take the chance of having a mold taken off it so it will have a return to fit it. Been looking at a colour on a ford kuga its a light metallic green. Havnt told the mrs haven't told the wife the colour maybe changing.
The style is as above but in a metallic grey. Dsg4me did his home work and found the exact style of wheels I mentioned. Mine are one colour and not two toned. If you look up the Alfa Giulia gt and deviant art you'll find he's used similar wheels on a silver car with a red bonnet. The rota flashbacks aren't far of the design
She meant she wanted something like a cross between the Mercedes CL V12 that she liked and an Aston DB5 or perhaps an Intercepror.
I shall Google big GTs while desperately trying to think of a decent donor. S Class mercy would be ideal if it came apart like a Z3. Big Audis or Lexus?
ZAGMAD ...Next time you change direction with your project , please bear in mind I'm parting out a Herald at the moment and the roof and glass are still available ....
When you say herald roof what does yours look like. Is it the single window with a small triangle window going into the boot or is it a double window at the side like a 2+2
Whatever happens with my roof it will work with the donor and with the period of the wings and panels from the Alfa gt . I'm trying to be sympathetic to both. Imagine a curvier version of the fulvia roof that flows with the windscreen. Was looking at the tr6 roof just not sure on it needing a stretch as the mx5's width seems to be wider than most English and Italian cars of that period other than the 2+2 specials if Ferrari.
Thanks for the offer of the parts but it would prob best going to a herald owner in need of a roof as a mold would be taken but not actually use the roof itself. I don't think the angles are right for what I'm trying to achieve. Don't spose you know anyone with the angular spitfire roof. :-)
I'd like to see Chris try his hand at nearly anything which Giotto Bizzarrini had his hand in, but especially the 5300 Strada or the P538S - after he's finished a certain silly American's Miglia, of course. I'd think either an easy project, really; all he'd need do is to convince some local Bizzarrini owner to let him take his car apart to make the molds.
I'd like to see Chris try his hand at nearly anything which Giotto Bizzarrini had his hand in, but especially the 5300 Strada or the P538S - (...) all he'd need do is to convince some local Bizzarrini owner to let him take his car apart to make the molds.
This looks like a suitable post to introduce something regarding copyright and design protection law that's been concerning me for the last few days since it cropped up at work on a non-car related matter.
To get straight to the point, the UK Government is going to bring our copyright and design protection laws into line with current EU law next week (28th April 2016).
The upshot is that the rights to 'artistic designs' will now belong to the designer's heirs for seventy years after their death, not twenty-five as is the case today.
Although this law was intended to cover art works like sculptures and paintings, it's about to have a catastrophic impact on UK based reproduction furniture businesses who are being given six months to dispose of all stock and stop production of anything that comes under this diktat. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the heirs of car designers may argue that their ancestors' designs qualify for protection from copying under this ruling.
A design will not be covered under this act if fifty or more items were produced by some industrial process - these will remain at 25 years after the death of the designer. In the case of my Spyder, a (sort of) replica of the Lancia D24 Spyder, the designer, Battista Farina, died in 1966 and only four cars were built, plus four 'continuation models constructed in the 1980's and around a dozen D23 to D25 derivative models using the same basic body design in the one or two years before and after the D24.
I think this means that under the new law I could be on thin ice if I built another one as the design will belong to Farina's heirs until 2036, but I don't think I could be made to destroy the one I've already built (it's not an exact copy anyway, more 'in the style of').
I really don't know what the implications are for resale of existing reproductions though - will people still be able to sell on their second hand 'designer' furniture/clothes/cars?
In the case of Giotto Bizzarini's designs this is all fairly academic - he'll be 90 in June and is still working as a designer (I guess he loves his job) so he still owns the rights to all of his designs that he hasn't specifically passed on to someone else in a written contract. But it could have a significant impact on the 'classic' kit car market, especially when recreating low production sports racing cars designed in the fifties and sixties, using the original design or part of the design (which is also covered).
Towed ...thats interesting.... I cant think of a suitable response at present ...but it's all part of the tightening grip process I guess .
The low numbers only thing makes me sceptical of wealthy collectors worried about their investments maybe having some influence on this ...cars like the 30's Fords etc which must rank amongst the most replicated in Europe are exempt by my understanding ...
I wonder at what level of replication an inspired by becomes a replica ? I was led to believe years ago , that a 10% change in design was enough to alter something but there is an Intellectual Property Rights issue , even with that theory ...that may well not be the case nowadays ...
IF you are genuinely worried about your car , remove the Lancia livery and thats dealt with that ... there is very little on it that could be claimed to be solely influenced by Lancia , it is a generic 50's design with influence from many quarters ...as are all the other 50's designs ...just look at various Maseratis and Ferraris etc and see just how similar they are in many ways ...
I know your cars designer very well and , although he's alive and well and still involved in the industry ...Yours is a genuine product not a replica and , even if it wasn't ... he sold over 50 units and they were produced commercially !!
The reliant scimitar rear screen and roof shape looks promising as an alternative to create the Italia style.
I saw that roof section and front screen aperture yesterday and have to say , thats an inspired choice ..it really looks the part for that roofline / rear screen treatment ..
That's interesting Towed, wasn't aware of that change.
Is probably worthy of a thread all of it's own as it could open a whole can of worms.
Presumably a lot of designs are owned by companies rather than the designer so wonder how that fits?
John
Hi John, I had reason to look into design copyright at work this week and it's a minefield. The intellectual property Act 2014 now states that ownership of a design remains with a designer, even if the design has been commissioned and paid for by someone else/another business, unless they have specifically signed away their rights in a written contract. This could mean that the heirs of a designer have a claim on the rights even if the product was entirely made by a major corporation, never mind a small kit-car manufacturer.
I'm aware that some manufacturers - notably B*ntl*y and M*rc*d*s B*nz - have taken legal action to stop their cars being copied, so it could happen again with the likes of F*rrari, Porsch* or Mas*rati.
Somewhere on the forum is a picture of a late Corvette (?) that Chris was modifying, looked stunning but a bit expensive to get for a donor.
How about something similar based on a Mitsubishi GTO. Plenty around at very reasonable prices, they don't seem to rust at all.
It would be nice give Chris free reign over the styling and see what he would come up with. No problems over copyright infringement then.
Hi John, I had reason to look into design copyright at work this week and it's a minefield. The intellectual property Act 2014 now states that ownership of a design remains with a designer, even if the design has been commissioned and paid for by someone else/another business..............................I'm aware that some manufacturers - notably B*ntl*y and M*rc*d*s B*nz - have taken legal action to stop their cars being copied, so it could happen again with the likes of F*rrari, Porsch* or Mas*rati.
Ferrari used to be big on it too , not sure if its happened in recent times but in the 80's they legally destroyed some GTO moulds locally , a guy who used to convert 240Z's ...that I am pretty sure was to do with branding and useage of badge and not so much design , but I was new to the hobby then and not in a position to comment confidently on that ...
There was also a french guy building Ferrari replicas around that time ..he was using Ferrari parts and they were being registered as Ferrari's ...He was being taken to court by Ferrari , but it was looking like he might win on a technicality ....Just before the case was finished , he ''committed suicide'' in a hotel room ...
