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Oxford build

5 Jun 2016, 8:13pm
Update - Part 2

So, I needed to build a semi-spaceframe. I ordered tens of metres of 25x25mm and 25x50mm box plus 25mm and 50mm angle.







The handbrake is from, er......a box of anonymous spares. Battery mounted above the passenger's feet.



The picture below shows a problems that I will be tackling shortly. I have used standard engine and gearbox mounts.....bot look at the angle of the top of the rocker cover.



The final pic shows the dash area taking shape.



I have dispensed with the Herald pedals - the offset was wrong for the new floor - and I am using a Midget pedal box with remote reservoirs.

Part 3 to follow.
5 Jun 2016, 8:17pm
Looking forward to part III already.

Engine angle not a problem but I believe that raising the rear gearbox mount will level it if that's important to you.
5 Jun 2016, 8:28pm
Update - part 3

Sometimes you have to maintain morale.......temporary fit....for fun.



Floor off to check alignment with the chassis......



Getting there.....it's the things like lugs to hold the battery and loads of other fittings that took time.



Spaceframe rolled off prior to painting. It's effing heavy as you'd imagine and I have no assistance in the woods.





This isn't a move to smaller wheels - just a solution to moving the blasted thing.



A coat of rust treatment yesterday.......



And, today, a coat of Rustoleum primer.......



The frame will be green.....for a change.

Next jobs........fibreglass the floors.....ali panel the spaceframe (I'm looking forward to that)......get the engine level (lower)......hang the exhaust.....fit the propshaft.........re-fit the floor.....add the spaceframe..........
5 Jun 2016, 8:58pm
Looks a little stronger than my frame��
5 Jun 2016, 9:02pm
Psycho pops wrote:
Looks a little stronger than my frame��


.......and a bit heavier.
5 Jun 2016, 9:13pm
Yours is a fantastic build, a real credit to you.

Is that a standard Lucas-type alternator, or a more modern alternative?
5 Jun 2016, 9:19pm
Triumph Special wrote:
Yours is a fantastic build, a real credit to you.

Is that a standard Lucas-type alternator, or a more modern alternative?


Thanks, TS.

It's a tiny Denso -

5 Jun 2016, 9:35pm
Nice work on the frame, it has to be the strongest frame ive seen on here.

It looks like you are using throttle bodies, what are they off.
5 Jun 2016, 9:43pm
swifty wrote:
Nice work on the frame, it has to be the strongest frame ive seen on here.

It looks like you are using throttle bodies, what are they off.


Thanks, Swifty. If the finished car looks anything like as good as yours, I'll be pleased.

It's a Dellorto DHLA 40. I couldn't get the SUs under the bonnet so I went for this solution.
6 Jun 2016, 8:32am
Nice work Oxford!!

Its good to see a lot of action from your stable!

Like you say, a tad heavy perhaps, but so safe to be in!
6 Jun 2016, 11:43am
Some inspiring work there on the sub-frame. I am building a Miglia and will need to get around to sorting mine out, and will refer back to yours for ideas.

All the best and keep posting those pics.

Marc
6 Jun 2016, 11:52am
oxford1360 wrote:
.......and a bit heavier.


If you need a hand to move it about just give me a ring !!
You supply the tea and biscuits. :heh:
6 Jun 2016, 5:53pm
Oxford - Thanks for the update. :cool:

And I thought I had made life difficult for myself. :icon_wink:

Jokes aside, your car is going to be very special when it is finished.

Whilst my Frankenstein Hillbilly internal framework is also pretty substantial, at least it came in two parts.
( Although, even lifting just the rear section was a serious effort if done single handed. :eek: )

So if you want to arrange a "Space frame lifting/re-fitting party" in the woods, just let me know, as you are only an hour (or so) from me.

Good luck, Paul. :)
14 Aug 2016, 9:50pm
A little more progress......and all progress is good progress.

Floors painted -



In place -



Exhaust wrapped and fitted -



Next up, finish full-length exhaust, top-coat the semi-spaceframe and fit it.

The chassis, engine, gearbox and rear end are filthy. A wash might be in order.
15 Aug 2016, 12:27pm
Oxford

No doubting your engineering quality and execution what a beautiful frame, but as the man said in the film Jaws "If think we are going to need a bigger boat" but in your case "I think you are going to need a bigger engine"!

How about a V8
15 Aug 2016, 1:27pm
Charman.tech wrote:
Oxford

No doubting your engineering quality and execution what a beautiful frame, but as the man said in the film Jaws "If think we are going to need a bigger boat" but in your case "I think you are going to need a bigger engine"!

How about a V8


The current engine is "new" and is +60 thou (it all helps). It has the Mk3 Spitfire cam plus the Dellorto and a 4-2-1 straight through exhaust......but like you I am mildly concerned (especially with a 3.89 diff and slightly larger wheels).

One of the ways that I have made things harder for myself is to ensure that the body will be easily removable once the car is finished so that working on it can be enjoyable (one of the many reasons that I like older cars).

This might just persuade me to swap-in a little Mazda unit and box......but I need to finish it first.
15 Aug 2016, 1:33pm
oxford1360 wrote:
The current engine is "new" and is +60 thou (it all helps). It has the Mk3 Spitfire cam plus the Dellorto and a 4-2-1 straight through exhaust......but like you I am mildly concerned (especially with a 3.89 diff and slightly larger wheels).

One of the ways that I have made things harder for myself is to ensure that the body will be easily removable once the car is finished so that working on it can be enjoyable (one of the many reasons that I like older cars).

This might just persuade me to swap-in a little Mazda unit and box......but I need to finish it first.


Oxford

was said in jest, the car is beautiful and as you say if all that quality safety and longevity requires more power at a latter date you have the basis there to accommodate of whole rang of options

I race an XJS with a friend and our moto is for every 1kg shed in weight is 1HP added
15 Aug 2016, 6:19pm
Oxford - Great to see an update from the woods. :cool:

My offer still stands if you need a hand lifting the space frame.

Good luck, Paul. :)
16 Aug 2016, 6:04pm
oxford1360 wrote:

This might just persuade me to swap-in a little Mazda unit and box......but I need to finish it first.


I'v got a BMW i.6i with gearbox, engine loom, ECU, prop ect.
Your's FOC if your interested. :smile:
16 Aug 2016, 7:21pm
micky1mo wrote:
I'v got a BMW i.6i with gearbox, engine loom, ECU, prop ect.
Your's FOC if your interested. :smile:


Ooooo, how tempting is that? Is it the same as one you've used in a Herald chassis?
17 Aug 2016, 6:06pm
The last one was a 1.8i (140bhp) this is a 1.6i (125bhp) but there are externally the same units. I also have the original radiator.
Why not drop in for a cuppa and have a look-see :smile:
17 Aug 2016, 6:11pm
Will do. I'll PM and aim for next week.
21 Aug 2016, 6:26pm
I now have an exhaust that exits out the back.......





.........and the semi-spaceframe is pretty green. Spraying box- and tube-section is effing tedious.





Next job, ali panel the frame. I'm looking forward to that.
22 Aug 2016, 6:48am
Oxford - Looking good. :cool:

Hope the panel work goes well.

Good luck, Paul. :)