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Garyh's Sammio build

23 Aug 2014, 1:08pm
garyh wrote:
Ive found a Puma engine... so do i need a type 9 gearbox?


have a read here...info regarding that engine in all its capacities

http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthre...etec-SE-engine

"You may aswell just do a 2.0L zetec conversion as its about the same power, cheaper, easier to fit and easier to tune up"
23 Aug 2014, 7:27pm
Gary - Good luck with the engine, hope you can get it all sorted out.

Cheers, Paul. :)
24 Aug 2014, 7:51am
garyh wrote:
Hi T, its a Zetec S 1700 95,000 miles no leaks etc... would i need to get the wiring loom/ engine mounts???


Hi Gary, I'm no expert in engine swapping, it's just a kernel of an idea that's simmering away in my subconscious for an ultra lightweight Spyder with enough power to be exhilarating without being too scary to drive.

My plan will be to buy a running Puma and transfer the complete loom with all ecu's etc and the motor into the Spyder chassis/shell. I'd guess that engine mounts will need to be fabricated too. I don't know if all that's possible, but RWD motorsport can probably advise -

http://www.rwdmotorsport.com/zetec-se-to-ford-gearbox-bellhousing.html

I'm sure Viatron can also shed some light on the details as he fits his 400hp 4 pot Ford into his Cordite. :flame:

I'll be following both threads with real interest. :)
24 Aug 2014, 7:58am
Transferring the engine with loom can be done but is a tricky job as the anti theft system needs either disabling or also transferring. By sticking with the standard ECU and wiring you'll also limit yourself to any tuning improvements, just my opinion but if it was me I would investigate after market induction, possibly a bike carb setup? And a cheap ecu like the Nodiz I'm running my triumph on. Also don't underestimate how difficult engine mounting can be. One reason we ditched the Volvo T4 in the GTA was that it was very lacking in threaded bosses on the one side of the block which left very little to attach mounts to. Could be a little flyer though with that engine in and set up right. Good luck!
27 Aug 2014, 2:10pm


Epic thread, just read through from start to finish-ish. I say that as in true 'special' builder tradition, an on-road target date of Christmas 2011 has now run on to summer(!) 2014 and the car still hasn't actually run.

I'll bookmark the thread and cross my fingers that the builder's perseverance doesn't wane.

And that motor does look good in its new home -

27 Aug 2014, 6:53pm
Mister Towed wrote:
... Epic thread, just read through from start to finish-ish...

+1

Although I was gutted to find it wasn't finished by the time i got to the end.

Amazing fabrication work. :cool:
29 Aug 2014, 9:00am
Will ERW 25mm od x 1.5mm wall tubing bend ok on a plumbers bending tool or will it just crease?
29 Aug 2014, 9:36am
If you use a "bending spring" inside it gary, it should be okay, but you'll have to try a bit first.
I did lots of this stuff while making my bumpers, and really, you've just got to try it first.
1 Sep 2014, 10:17am
Some of these for sale on ebay at the moment.

Triumph Rotoflex Cv Conversion Driveshafts
191301056010
2 Sep 2014, 8:04am
I thought the interesting bit, was the fact is they had fitted an MX5 engine... look at the numbers.

2 Sep 2014, 8:19am
Bloody hell Gary! The price is the most impressive at over £95,000!!
2 Sep 2014, 4:00pm
...or you could have an Eagle E Type Speedster for only another £400k
2 Sep 2014, 5:43pm
Or chuck in another five and a half million, and buy Steve McQueen's XKSS..............If it ever comes on to the market!
3 Sep 2014, 8:01am
Question.
When do you use 0.6 mig wire or 0.8?
3 Sep 2014, 8:16am
If you are using 0.8 and run out, you can use 0.6, but to get the same amount of metal to melt, you'd have to turn the wire feed rate up a bit , does that make sense?

Like if you were using 1mm you'd just need to turn the feed rate down.
You can also alter the current to suit as well.
Or at least you can on my machine.
3 Sep 2014, 8:26am
Thanks scottie, so its dependent on thickness of metal, you're trying to weld?
3 Sep 2014, 8:53am
That's it Gary, you've got it.
You can use different wire sizes, feed rates and current settings to get it all right.
Best way is to set your welder up with whatever you intend to use and then experiment until the weld is right for what you are working on, that way you don't bugger up your build.
3 Sep 2014, 8:58am
Gary - This is a photocopy of my welder's guide which follows Scottie's advice.



Obviously it will vary depending on your welder.

But I hope that helps, Paul. :)
13 Sep 2014, 3:08pm
Made some floor pans, just need to weld the corners and plug weld. After looking at some threads I need to take out some more leaves and bought a lowering block. Heres some pics of what i did.









16 Sep 2014, 8:16pm
18 Sep 2014, 8:29am
Lots more nuts and bolts, rear drums and welding consumables ordered. I have bought some different rear lights, remind me more of a Lancia.

18 Sep 2014, 12:43pm
Gary - Great job on the floors. :cool:

Your bead roller work means they are stiffer than my "factory" floors.

Good luck, Paul. :)

PS
How easy is the bead roller to use?
18 Sep 2014, 2:16pm
At first i was going to do the floor in one piece but it proved too large, so i ended up making the inserts. This makes it easier to use as regards size when using the beader, plus you need one hand to turn the handle and one feed through and looking at the bead following line... you get better as you know.