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Fornt suspension setup

22 Jan 2007, 8:31pm
GreatOldOne wrote:
According to Mark, what you need to do is 'shave' the bolt so it will slide past. He didn't elaborate on this past that it needs a side of the bolt head cutting down so it's level with the shaft.


Sounds a bit of a strange solution to me. So - are you building a car with an E36 donor then - or perhaps Marlin have decided to rationalise the wishbones so that one size fits all.

An alternative (and possibly better) solution would be to get a longer bolt and chop the head. Thread the end so that you have a thread on both ends - a stud I think you would call it like they used to use on cylinder heads. You could then easily get the stud in and put nuts on both ends. Shaving the head of the bolt sounds really dodgy to me - but I suppose Mark knows best...

Robin
22 Jan 2007, 8:57pm
No, my donor was an e30. I guess, as you say, they are rationalising the parts and having a common wishbone for both e30 and e36.

The shaving sounds odd, yes - but it seems to work for now. Should I get the jitters over it later on I'll try the stud method you suggested.

I'll take some photos tomorrow and let you all have a look at my bolt shaving. At least I haven't had to shave my nuts! :icon_mrgreen:
22 Jan 2007, 9:08pm
Cutting the head of the bolt wasn't enough to clear the arm and I also had to cut the length of the bolt 'cause it hit into the other arm when tighted.
Also, I was always taught that you need at least 2 threads visible to be sure that a nyloc nut is effective.
Before I modded my suspension arms, I had to cut the nut in half to make this happen. I ended up with a nut 6mm thick.
I wonder how the SVA chaps view this?
22 Jan 2007, 10:23pm
This is very strange....

All the pictures of e30 Sportsters I have, including Marlin's latest customer car (the red one) have wishbones like mine.
The e36 cars have wishbones like the ones supplied to Robin.

Did Mark explain why there are two diffrent types?
23 Jan 2007, 8:48am
No - He and Terry just said that I'd got the correct wishbone, and Mark told me about the bolt shaving. Taking that a face value, the speculation that they're making it a common part now seems accurate.
23 Jan 2007, 5:31pm
peterux wrote:
Ok, i'll measure them up when they arrive.....


Hi Peter

Don't suppose said covers/boots/thingamajigs have arrived yet?

Cheers

Robin
23 Jan 2007, 9:09pm
Here's some pics of my shaved bolts. It's OK, they're not mucky... ;)


23 Jan 2007, 9:16pm
GreatOldOne wrote:
Here's some pics of my shaved bolts.


Hmm - 2 be frank don't think I would trust my @ss to that solution. If the bolt broke, dropped out or whatever the front suspension would colapse. All IMHO of course :icon_frown:

Robin

PS - wish I had started this thread with better spelling Fornt = Front. Allegedly it's the main qualification for an engineer - the inablity to spoll...
23 Jan 2007, 9:45pm
MartinClan wrote:
Hmm - 2 be frank don't think I would trust my @ss to that solution. If the bolt broke, dropped out or whatever the front suspension would colapse. All IMHO of course :icon_frown:


I can't see how the bolt is any weaker for having this done - the main force on the damper is up and down, and the shaft of the bolt is still the same diameter as before shaving - it's only the head that's been touched.

All the fore to aft forces are going to go through the top and bottom wishbones, so the bolt head and nut are only there to stop the bolt from sliding out, and there's plenty of head on the bolt for that.

This is apparently the method they use at the Factory... Get me suffeciently scared though and I may make some threaded pins up with a nut either side as you suggested. :)
23 Jan 2007, 10:27pm
MartinClan wrote:
Hi Peter

Don't suppose said covers/boots/thingamajigs have arrived yet?

Cheers

Robin


Hi Robin,
No sign of them yet.
They obviously don't have the 24x7 operation like Screwfix! :D

Peter
23 Jan 2007, 10:35pm
GreatOldOne wrote:

This is apparently the method they use at the Factory... :)


No doubt covered with a plastic cover? :badgrin:
24 Jan 2007, 8:33am
GreatOldOne wrote:
Get me suffeciently scared though and I may make some threaded pins up with a nut either side as you suggested. :)


Don't let me scare you - been an engineer too long that's the trouble and I am used to sod's law taking over. I guess if that's what Marlin do it should be OK.

Still think the stud would be a better solution though :biggrin:

Cheers

Robin
26 Jan 2007, 12:59pm
This is what mine look like:







EDIT, was looking at the first page and didnt see the second one :lol: so this was in response to the pics on the previous page! :)