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Back in the club!

16 Jan 2020, 9:05pm
With many time and money saving features as far as I can tell.
Well done Tribute.
16 Jan 2020, 9:06pm
I’m looking forward to new models.

I did like the SWB but only the Cali. If it is the case then anyone with one now has had a boost in value.

Onwards and upwards agreed.

Dave :)
17 Jan 2020, 11:30am
Classic Coachworks still seem to be offering the same cars with different names, makes sense, taking a step back from a replica name.

Just make sure you don't badge them or remove the badges as Smash is doing. If you put a genuine manufactures badge on a replica you are asking for trouble. The manufacturer will have spent many years and many millions of pounds on his name and badging so you have to understand why they would be pissed off.
However trying to copyright a design that is 60 years old and not badged or an exact copy, I think would be impossible to enforce.
There are many other replica manufacturers that I know off who make replicas with the same original name and using original badging. These have been trading for many years and do not seem to have a problem.
18 Jan 2020, 2:04pm
You have to tread very carefully with Ferrari .... This isn't a new subject. They do keep an eye on what's going on and are passionate about their brand .
You say it's difficult to enforce a 60 year old copyright .. Well they went to court to get the 250 GTO registered as art . The design has been recognised as a piece of art and that gives more clout to Ferrari to go after people for art forgery and the heavier penalties resulting from it. Now , they may choose to never pursue it but they are happy to let the world know this fact and that it bothers them enough to go through the legal process ..... I can think of better people to have an argument with !!
18 Jan 2020, 5:09pm
A lot of these issues seem to stem from the use of badges and using the name in an advert description, whether its a manufacturer or sometimes by a private owner.

Whilst there are some extremely well executed, like for like replica's out there, none of our cars are in that league.
In most cases the proportions of our cars aren't right, too short, too tall etc. The running gear isn't right, Ford, BMW, Mazda etc.
For the most part our cars are a long way off in just about every area.

If you can avoid the temptation to put on inappropriate badges and avoid certain words when you come to sell I would like to think you'll be ok.
18 Jan 2020, 8:58pm
Given of us are not party to any discussions on this I think it is safe to assume that we avoid anything that raise any opportunities for litigation from any manufacturer including the F people.

It is also easier for a builder to plead some form of ignorance than anyone with a commercial venture that has a direct affect on the livelihood of members of that company. If any maker of a kit or their related companies have a risk of commercial proceedings I would not be surprised if they ceased to produce or supply such items.

Good luck to anyone in this part of the hobby / industry as creating anything that keeps old style automotive designs alive is open to scrutiny and comment.

I will stick to my Kobra with the head scratcher badge as no-one is threatened by what I have.

Good luck all. We might be the last generation that produces unique cars. We need to band together to protect ourselves best we can or ...

We are all doomed !

Stupid boy Dave

Back to Scott’s hijacked thread ...
19 Jan 2020, 11:11am
.. (Good luck all. We might be the last generation that produces unique cars. We need to band together to protect ourselves best we can or ...

We are all doomed !)

Things will be changing over the next 20 years or so, if the ill informed Government making poorly thought out decisions continues. Our only hope is to push how environmentally friendly our cars are by the fact that they are recycled and we only use them infrequently!
21 Jan 2020, 10:58am
Whilst I do not support Brexit, the lack of Brussels imposed laws will help. Especially looking at the very restricted modifications allowed in mainland Europe.
21 Jan 2020, 7:40pm
I =may be wrong (very probably) but I thought the 40 year MOT exemption was an EU directive.
23 Jan 2020, 9:43am
Scott, the car is fabulous and I can see why you took it when the opportunity arose. Enjoy!
24 Jan 2020, 10:29pm
Jaguartvr wrote:
I =may be wrong (very probably) but I thought the 40 year MOT exemption was an EU directive.


I think the 1960 cut off was EU, the UK only have gone one stage further with the 40 year bit.

If you remember the EU were trying to harmonise the 4 plus 2 MOT, which got rejected in the UK.

For some reason NI is different.
25 Jan 2020, 4:56am
Barber wrote:
Scott, the car is fabulous and I can see why you took it when the opportunity arose. Enjoy!


Thanks mate - it'll be going over to Laon Historic tail end of May hopefully with full interior conversion having been completed.
5 Feb 2020, 4:44am
Car back from Jeff's and looks superb - he's done an amazing job but suspect he'll never want to see it again lol!

In case youre wondering why the front clip was repainted it was the cars been on the road a couple of years and the grp had settled plus the usual pulls on the small bonnet. The car deserved it. Grassbank scuttle really makes a big difference.

Interior next...
5 Feb 2020, 6:51am
Pictures?
5 Feb 2020, 6:41pm
Only a couple Jeff sent - I didn't take any before I left and it got pretty wet and dirty on way home. Clean this weekend and get some shots.
5 Feb 2020, 7:22pm
Thanks for the picture

Smash you must be really pleased, that looks great make q big difference to the look.
7 Feb 2020, 12:31pm
Yes thrilled with it. Was a bit of a ball ache for Jeff - arrived jntrimmed and grp was covered in pinholes but he's done the business.

New steering wheel arrived today too. Gorgeous.
15 Mar 2020, 10:47am
Car is in for interior trim and dash conversion. Headlining is using traditional bows rather than being stuck on. Very pleased so far!
15 Mar 2020, 1:14pm
Traditional headlining with bows is a very nice period feature, My Jag Mk2 had a new headlining professionally fitted when it was rebuilt 30 years ago. Still looks as good as new.

Was watching a wheeler-dealers video on youtube on a Jag XJS, Ed was fitting a new headliner as they are prone to drooping, someone had tried to glue it back and made a pig's ear of it. The new headlining looked superb. The next video was French Wheeler-Dealers (didn't know they did one), in this version again on an XJS, they removed the moulded headling and threw it away, then cut a new headling out of some material and stuck it on with aerosol glue. As you can imagine it looked awful, I wonder how long that will stay up with the Mediterranean sun?
Same job, different skill set.
Looking forward to seeing the dash conversion. Is the dash going to be painted or covered?
15 Mar 2020, 7:45pm
smash wrote:
Grassbank still supply them so that's a no no and I'm sure Chris wouldn't do that. Plus he's no longer producing the 250.


Makes the kits rare, mine is Mazda based 250 gto not swb.
15 Mar 2020, 11:16pm
@Steve - going for black crackle paint finish. I've got black on black dials rather than the cream centres.
18 Mar 2020, 3:38am
Dash being bonded at Evolution Trim Works. Black on black gauges.
18 Mar 2020, 8:28am
Great dash. Love the dials.