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Hi all. Without feeling a proper twit could some kind soul please enlighten me to all the mentions of radii etc for SVA as the last kit I constructed was 'pre' SVA so haven't a clue what is actually being discussed, plus do all auto manufacturers have to comply to these type of regs or is it just the poor kit car builder? Thanks in advance for opening my mind!
The basic rule is anything that can contact some one or something on the outside of the car must have a minimum radius of .25mm - so lights, bolts, bodywork etc. all need a radius on them or something to cover them up.
For the 7 type cars such as the Sportster that means every bolt / nut on the front suspension needs SVA friendly plastic caps on them (cbs sells them).
My reflectors have a hard edge so I'm going to have to sand them down.
Thank you Patrick for the explanations, which I now understand as 'rough edges' re radius term. Strange don't you think regarding the nut covers - do mainstream producers such as GM or Ford use them on the models they produce? I don't think so. Is it only such kits with exposed suspension components or all kits?
Production cars have to be type approved so one model is tested and approved which then covers the whole production run - cost £250,000 per car I believe so I suspect there may be some jiggling of the rules - however most newer cars tend to have everything rounded off anyway. This is part of the reason for SVA as kit manufactures just don't have the budget for type approval and as soon as a builder digresses from the original the type approval doesn't count for that one!
With regards to nut covers and other radius's - this only applies where parts can come into contact easily with people. They've got a knee sized metal sphere used to determine if a radius falls within rules.
Exhausts that stick out past the bodywork need a radius on them too...
Sometimes it does get a bit silly on 7 type cars - if some ones head is that far into the moving parts of the car a scratch of a sharp edge is going to be the least of their worries! On the other hand people will sue or claim compensation for the smallest things these days.
Hi Patrick, Thanks again for the info. Sounds like SVA is similar to Health & Safety at Work where some rules make perfect sense and others are totally unnecessary. As said if someone is that close their are going to have bigger worries than scratches .lol:-)
Hi, IVA stands for Individual Vehicle Assessment which is the name given to the replacement test for SVA due to come into force in the Spring of 2009. SVA the sequel if you will.
As far as I know its in the consultation faze but from looking at a draft document it doesn't look like it will be much to worry about.
I'll add some Q&A style facts to the SVA Knowledge base as and when information comes through.
Hi there, I am on the fetal stage of my 7esque project and imagine that by the time it is my "screaming baby" it will be after the 2009 so more than likely she will be needing IVA!
My concerns of the project are actually from the diff I am using. When I was using my mkII escort as a "runabout" I fitted an ATB quaife diff (which has been fun using it on the odd autotest! ). When I took the car for mot's I told the MOT tester it had a LSD and he never checked the balance on the rear brakes but tested them together. I was told it would damage the diff if he did. Anyway, if I use this axle in the 7 how can the tester for SVA/IVA check the balance of the brakes? Or is the balance test breaking diffs just a line?
No!!!!
With Lsd The Rear Must Be Tested Together It Blew My Lsd (it Shdn't Have ... Testing Them Separately).. Yes Talk To The Tester Tell Them You Have Limited .. Note Limited The Meaning Slip Diff And If They Have Half A Brain Insist They Test Them Together!!!!
Nice Thread Al>
Also (me Yet Agn) Yes( I Just Forked Out For A Load Of These Plastic Nut Head Covers).. Dont Forget To Use Nylock Types As And When ... So Many Times In Kits I've Come Accross The Nuts Are Plain When Clearly Nylock With Split Washers Shd Have Been Used , Or There S Insufficient Or Too Much Unused Thread Protrudeing .. You Know .. Don't You ? It's Plain Engineerring Sense. However I Doo Feel This Radii Thing Is Fairly Reasonable .. But Shd A Bolt .. Whatewver Come Loose .it's Harder To Spot It With A Damb Stupid Plastic Cover Covering It Up ! .. Al>
VIN PLATES ; AS POSTED ELSEWHERE ; THERE S NO LIMIT ! USE MORE THAN ONE FOR INSURANCE SHD YOU PRECIOUS EFFORTS BE ( HOPEFULLY not) be stolen .. yes 3mm is a bit small ,,, 4mm is 'usual' but so long as theyre legible and not ambiguous should be ok ;do not forget you can also etch the vin etc anywhere you goddam like on the inside of the body shell(or anywhere else come to that )...>>>
al
Hello to all,
I’m completely new to kit car building and I’m in the process
of SVA for an Indy.
As far as the VIN (in northern Ireland) is concerned the SVA Centre issues the Number. The vehicle goes to SVA without a VIN.
Alvin, Please don't capitalise every word in your posts or use all capitals as that means you are shouting and just makes your post unreadable so people will not actually read what you said!
Starting each sentence or paragraph is fine but not every word! Also no text typing ! Full words are better.Thanking you in advance a mad old bugger(who is also a teacher)
Getting the urge to build another kit and looking at what about and noticed some unfinished near new kits on offer such as a brand new 1989 Rickman Ranger which was virtually untouched and an 86 Ginetta G31 which had had little done to it (both just rolling shells)and wondered as these were both pre SVA and therefore pre IVA would there be any major problems with such a project with regards to the dreaded radius etc as I really like/understand Cortinas and Escorts and my first build was in fact an 88 Ranger kit?
I know that cars registered before 1965 do not have to have seat belts fitted but if I convert my post 1965 donor from 4 seats to 2 do I still have to have seat belt fittings in the empty space?
Also, I saw somewhere that donor cars over 30 years old (1985?) do not have to have an SVA. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, if I fit Polycarbonate (bulletproof) windows, do I have to get them E marked and if so, how?
I have had a reply from DVLA and they say that
(a) if the rear pair of seats are removed then the seat belt mounting points must be permanently disabled, e.g. by welding over
(b) older donors still have to undergo the SVA/IVA
