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New Sammio Alpha build

3 May 2018, 2:07pm
Delivery of Sammio Alpha

Well 19th April is the day I took delivery of the Sammio Alpha






So with that the build has officially started.
3 May 2018, 3:52pm
I'm pleased to see you'v got to grips with the photo editing. :icon_smile:
5 May 2018, 8:07am
Thanks for that Mike, but I am still in the learning process with this photo uplink.

Well due to skill or luck I will try and upload some photos of the Sammio Alphas Doner which members of the household have nicknamed Harry.








5 May 2018, 8:21am
So after a first trial fit of the body and photo.




it was time to move Harry to start the stripdown.






Which also required emptying the car of spares and trying to find locker space for them.
6 May 2018, 6:57am
Goods like you have got a very tidy Spitfire donor there. :cool:
8 May 2018, 11:59am
Thanks Paul I spent some time looking for a doner. i wanted to limit the build time and I needed a good base to start with due to the construction. This spitfire ticked all the boxes so I think the extra outlay was worth it.

So these photos that follow are the first fitting of the body to the spitfire tub






As you can see from the photos the body is sitting high at the rear and also at the front so a steady aproach with the grinder removing small amounts untill the body sits correct.

First photos show the top of the dashboard.



Working towards the back of the spitfire this was the next area to be trimmed.




finally the back of the car. There was much more trimming and body trying before I got to this point as my lift assistant for the body pointed out to me.









I Now turned my attention to the fuel tank and repostioned and trimmed away the rear top pannel to give better acess for the boot area.







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more to follow on the build.
8 May 2018, 12:08pm
So after the first day the photos below show how far I have got.






Iam happy with progress so far and now before the body can be bonded i need to sort out the arrangement for hanging the doors and the hinges.

So car pushed in garage and beer sought to help with thinking process.
8 May 2018, 6:09pm
looking good

looks so different from the steel subframe build, I will be interested to see how the wheelarches meet the existing steel, are you going on wires, I got my second hand ones powderchromed at cas coatings near you £26 a wheel, cant tel it from chrome and it washes in two minutes. I have a couple of 72 spoke ones spair if you get stuck, keep up with the info, and good luck!
8 May 2018, 6:50pm
Looking good. :rockon::rockon:
9 May 2018, 5:32am
I really like the way this kit seems to go together. :cool:

As there is a lot to be said for keeping the donor car as intact as possible.

Good luck, Paul. :)
12 May 2018, 6:11pm
Wharfdale I will take you up on the offer of wheels. As you can see below I have managed to collect a few different styles of wheels over the last year so maybe its a bit early till the cars painted. but I am thinking minilight or 14 mgb wire wheels.








I guess the biggest decider will be when the arches are finished.

Barber Micky1mo Thanks for the reply I welcome your icons of suport :smile:

Paul L Yes Paul the build for the main body was much quicker and simpler than the sammio syder. However the next challenge will be the doors and fitting the bonnet.
13 May 2018, 1:19pm
The ALPHA's wheel arch was curved to suit 14" wheels.

This ALPHA is fitted with VW 14" wheels and 185/70/14 tyres




:icon_cool:
19 May 2018, 6:00am
Thanks for the info on wheel size Mike. I will fit the wires on the car to get the wheel archs gap right.

With last trial of the body. it was time to prepare for bonding.





Which means the grinder was out again.

I then prepared the area and cleaned and got all the drills ready, screws and back up drill as the cure time for bonding was only 20 mins.

The time taken was about 1 hour the front panel where the windscreen use to be was the trickest to grind the longest to grind was down the two sills. To grind the lower sill area that meets the lower bulkhead I had to lift and remove the front wheels to gain acess. I consider I was lucky as removing the paint i found good steel. otherwise it could have involved welding in repairs. However removing the paint will require major touching up once bonding and body work is complete.
22 May 2018, 5:36am
Did you get a chance to bond the body shell on?

The very short time from body shell arriving to bonding is amazing. :cool:

At this rate, you will have got further in months than I did in years!

Good luck, Paul. :)
23 May 2018, 5:23pm
Hello Paul L.

I did manage to get the main body bonded to the spitfire shell. It still requires a few tweeks but I have come up with a few ideas which i will try out when home. The Build without the doors I believe on a good doner could be done very quickly much faster than the sammio spyder. However I believe the 30th of July deadline I gave myself is coming up fast and the Alpha wont be ready:icon_eek:
Here are some of the photos showing the body bonded.






The last photo shows a little of the hinge arrangement more to follow on that and the bonnet arrangement, I started but not finished before going back to work. As for the rear arches i will wait until i have fitted the bonnet and set the ride height of the car before the grinder comes out for the last time. Hopfully more to follow next month.
16 Jun 2018, 10:26am
wharfedale wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aq5vqx8hdawmqct/IMG_9802.JPG?dl=0
I dont know mine seem to fit, dont 14s gear it up?


That does look good but 14's or 15's definitely fill the arches that little bit better -



The gearing is raised depending on tyre/profile choice, but not by as much as you'd think. Going from a 165/80/13 to a 175/80/14 only increases the speed for a given rpm by 7%, which will usually make the speedo read more accurately as they tend to under read by around 10% as standard. The lighter bodywork means that the car won't struggle on hills either.

You can have a play with tyre sizes here -

http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-calculator

Just bear in mind that the 175/80/14 just fits with a little bulkhead alteration (I used a lump hammer) so anything bigger will need more serious modification of the bulkhead to avoid fouling.
30 Jun 2018, 8:06pm
Well I am back with some updates on the Alpha hopefully for all of this month now the internet and computer are sorted fingers crossed. I also thankyou Wharfdale for the link for 13inch wheels and Mister Towed for the link for wheels and tires and I must say your sammio build was the inspiration to start my build.
30 Jun 2018, 8:13pm
So after a month at work and enjoying a lie in a knock at the door from the postman, brought me a nice suprise from Mike at Sammio cars. With that it was time to get into the garage with coffee in my new mug and a look at where to fit the new style vin plate







30 Jun 2018, 8:50pm
So with a sunny morning car was pushed out of garage.




When i left the car I had bonded on the body and decided to leave it for the month to bond. While at work I came up with an idea to bolt the body as an extra security to the spitfire side bumper mountings. this was for two reasons one to hold the body as well as the bonding agent and two to postion the rear arches in the correct postion.










The first photos shows the body and the measurement need to have a uniformed distance on both sides of the car. So with using the countersunk set screws I was able to set this and lock it all in place and add some extra strength but not sure if its over kill or not. With using the countersinks I can blend them into the bodywork at a later date. Also at this time I replace the selftapping screws with poprivets so thats the main body now fitted to the car.
1 Jul 2018, 5:58pm
That looks like a good solution to me. :cool:

It also means that the body will not move when you trim back the original arches and bridge the gap between old and new.

Good luck, Paul. :)
1 Jul 2018, 6:50pm
Looking good :thumb: