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Oh dear I appear to have touched a nerve otherwise your response would not be so aggressive, if as you say you wrote an article then you would know the vehicle is currently in an illegal state, will you advise all potential buyers of this? Why mention amnesty which is something that stopped/closed years ago & has no relevance.
There is no need to advise potential buyers as the paperwork will be back any day not that we have to justify ourselves to you
The amnesty was mentioned as part of the history leading up to the present situation, we were not suggesting its still current.
Please you have made your point now move on
Oh dear I appear to have touched a nerve otherwise your response would not be so aggressive, if as you say you wrote an article then you would know the vehicle is currently in an illegal state, will you advise all potential buyers of this? Why mention amnesty which is something that stopped/closed years ago & has no relevance.
I didn't think the response was aggressive at all ...merely someone a bit annoyed at a third party making unfound and unresearched statements on the world wide web ...potential customers could well be reading this thread and might be put off by your 'inaccuracies'' ...that would certainly annoy me , if it was my car ...Richard was a whole lot more diplomatic than many others may have been ..
The phrase 'Ringer' suggests its had its identity changed , so I am led to believe...where's the evidence of that ? !!!!
The V5c not stating exactly what the changes are is , as Richard said , a paperwork exercise thats underway ...even when hes done it , the record online won't update straight away ...
V5c in the process of being altered doesn't render a car illegal ....
I would probably have done my homework a bit better before I came on here throwing accusations about ...
It's not my argument ...but justifies responses from people as , in the same way , potential buyers can read your damaging statements , they can read the replies putting their minds at rest too ...
Does no-one care that the car on Ebay is a ringer & could be seized & crushed? Or if involved in an accident would not be insured & the driver personally liable?
Phaeton (or is it Micha/RochdaleGT?)
A couple of quick definitions for you:
A 'ringer' is a stolen car that has had its identification numbers replaced by a set from another - usually written-off - car, which effectively changes the car's identity.
Defamation is split into two legal bases that a person can sue for: slander and libel. Slander is defamation of a person through a transient form of communication, generally speech. Libel is defamation of a person through a permanent form of communication, mostly the written word.
Therefore you have just committed libel by accusing Richard @ Nubudi (in writing) of stealing a car and changing its identity.
As you do not appear to care about these "facts", why should anyone care about anything else you have got to say?
Either way, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, despite fact we have been through this so many times already.
Yes it has the tone of someone who posted previously and Paul hit the nail on the head with the previous names ....very strange people out there for sure
Joined December 2016 and decided to post today about something that has been covered before many times by persons mentioned ....or all the same person?
Thank you for the link , so we are in agreement that the car is as advertised illegal to be used o UK roads, not withstanding the use of silver/black number plates on a post 1973 car, or it's questionable MOT if it passed with them fitted.
redratbike wrote:
Yes it has the tone of someone who posted previously and Paul hit the nail on the head with the previous names ....very strange people out there for sure
Joined December 2016 and decided to post today about something that has been covered before many times by persons mentioned ....or all the same person?
Just for clarity never heard of the people/posters you mention
Looks like it's more than one of you whose feathers I have ruffled, I thought it was quite an innocent question clearly not. It would appear that you are all happy with the situation or dare I suggest complicit with this activity & almost appear to encourage it. It would appear Barber has it down to a tee
Barber wrote:
Why should anyone on this website care about that,
So what's the collectives view on somebody buying a Sevenlookiliky kit, building it, then buying a V5C of an existing kitcar, scrapping it & using the VIN & identity on their newly built car?
I'm already behind my desk but thank you for your concern
Well get on with something constructive and stop being a prat!!
You obviously are just here trying to stir up something out of nothing that is actually none of your business.
We are a friendly forum and don't need idiots like you. I suggest JG blocks your posts as you have nothing constructive to offer.
Well get on with something constructive and stop being a prat!!
You obviously are just here trying to stir up something out of nothing that is actually none of your business.
We are a friendly forum[COLOR="black"](yeah right)[/COLOR] and don't need idiots like you. I suggest JG blocks your posts as you have nothing constructive to offer.
Actually I wasn't, as previously stated it was a genuine question what a group of supposedly kit car enthusiasts thought about a dodgy registered car being sold. I would have liked to have had a constructive conversation about the subject but it is clear none of you are capable of that, or at least your name calling & childish behaviour alludes to that. So I shall leave it there & you get your wish.
Does no-one care that the car on Ebay is a ringer & could be seized & crushed? Or if involved in an accident would not be insured & the driver personally liable?Originally posted by Phaeton.
The above was not a genuine question, it is a statement about a car which is being sold by someone well known within the Kit Car industry. If you want a constructive conversation about it, ring him.
I think your allegations about this car and owner unfounded and the answers you have received from Paul and Richard are factual and correct.
Starve them of oxygen.I have enough experience on footy forums to know that this sort don't care about facts, criticism, balance or anything else, disregarding age or intelligence.
Isn't there a rolling date for these number plates now? sure I read about it somewhere. I have a 1973 Stag ( as well as the Sammio) and was considering changing from yellow.
Also I read a rolling 40 year age limit for MOT tests if it's a Vehicle of Historic Interest which it seems the Sammio is not...
Tax exemption and black'n'white plates are now on rolling 40 year qualification*, MOT isn't (apart from in Eire, I believe). Pre 1960 is the cut-off for MOT exemption, but I think I'd still want an annual safety inspection conducted by an impartial third party motor mechanic anyway if I had a pre '60 classic.
Part of the wording of the proposal to introduce rolling 40 year MOT exemption states that it doesn't apply to cars that have been modified to no longer resemble the original and also a power to weight increase of 15% or more ...the lighter and alternative body means S*mmio's and the like will not gain MOT exemption ..which really is not an issue for me ..who doesnt want their car checked annually for £40 ?
We still fall into the 8 point system , so no issues with that. Cars will still be re-registered as they are now and not subject to an IVA.
The guys who may have more of an issue are my Hot Rod buddies with modified running gear / chassis changes etc... It's been a growing issue for years and every few years or so , DVLA squeeze the hobby .... its an overlooked situation more often than not , but with owners having to tick a modified or not box when re-taxing and MOT stations potentially being prosecuted or penalized if they choose to ignore it ...things could be changing for any unaccepted modified cars built after 1988 .....If anyone is caught out not declaring their cars and claiming MOT exemption , they will be sent to an IVA test ...if you declare it as modified , you can bet your bottom dollar , you will be asked to explain mods ...as I said before , S*mmio-esque builds will be deemed as acceptable and not given MOT exemption , but not put forward for IVA either ...but if you fall into certain categories , I suspect SCS or a similar body will be inspecting the vehicle and some of those will be put forward for IVA...
It's one way of filtering out the awful Rat style rubbish thats been nailed together in recent years , but at the expense of some very well built cars ...
The stupid thing about this ruling is ..if you have , for example , a split screen Minor , you put a later Minor engine in it or a twin carbed MG engine or something ...that mod alone will lose your right to MOT exemption ...if you improve the brakes , suspension and steering to make the car handle better using later BMC parts ...you could be heading for IVA in your very stock looking and upgraded old Minor ....now that's not fair ...
I don't want to have to pay for an MOT every year, my old Jag averages about 500 miles a year and hasn't had a failure in years.
I haven't heard about a rolling date for black and silver plates, as I understand it, it is still pre 1975.
i don't want to have to pay for an mot every year, my old jag averages about 500 miles a year and hasn't had a failure in years.
I haven't heard about a rolling date for black and silver plates, as i understand it, it is still pre 1975.
DVLA issued an INF sheet that stated black & silver plates could be used on historic class VED cars - unfortunately they did that before the C&U regs were changed (arse/elbow) but I don't think you'd be charged for that alone.
As for Phaeton, I'd love to have a constructive discussion about the UK laws surrounding the rebody of separate chassis vehicles - but you can't honestly expect that to happen with an aggressive opening statement like "It's an illegally registered car..." followed by "the vehicle is currently in an illegal state" they aren't "innocent questions" (they're not even questions), they're trolling - which no-one likes.
Would advise any potential buyer to hold off painting the body until it's fitted to the chassis and frame with your engine of choice installed. But, having the body pre-prep'd and primed will save you a lot of time, so long as it was done right in the first place.
Would advise any potential buyer to hold off painting the body until it's fitted to the chassis and frame with your engine of choice installed. But, having the body pre-prep'd and primed will save you a lot of time, so long as it was done right in the first place.
AGREED- I would go as far as to say , as attractive a proposition as it may sound to the potential buyer , having the car sprayed will be a total waste of time as it will DEFINITELY need painting again once it is built .....
The suggestion , as I see it , is the bodies just go straight on , few bolts , bit of fitting up and drive away ...we all know that's not how it works ...
