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Stonleigh Kit Car Show

2 May 2006, 7:59pm
They're on their way, Patrick!
2 May 2006, 10:14pm
Here's those pics, courtesy of PatrickHosting(tm)









3 May 2006, 7:42am
Pictures

Intresting that Marlin mount the front dampers upsidedown with the adjusters at the top. This is the second car that I have seen them build like this.

Does anyone know why they do this - is it just to make the adjusters easier to get to? I was under the impresion that mounting dampers the wrong way up could have an effect on their performance - can't remember why though - anyone?

Robin
3 May 2006, 8:00pm
Observations

Great set of photo's, thanks for posting them for us all to study.

I've been doing a bit studying and also note the following interesting, trivial or useless comments! (in no particular order or significance)

- No BMW rubber connector between the steering shaft and extension rod (is this a safety feature on the original BMW?)
- Lovely red colour and nice dashboard layout
- front indicators look far too low for the SVA?
- Mudguard clamps are welded to the front uprights (I wonder if they shake loose if not welded?)
- no adaptor plate fitted between brake master cylinder and servo? (Is this because of Stuart's pedal travel problem?)
- long Goodridge style flexible brake hoses used throughout (ouch, expensive?)
- the ignition coil is fiited on the nice 'cool' inlet side of the engine bay away from that nasty hot exhaust system (but what is it fixed/mounted on?)
- rear ARB fitted despite Marlin's claims that it is not required?
- Steering column mounted upside down with keys on the nearside (i've done this on mine)
- AFM pointing backwards and down - looks good but what about all the rain and dirt thrown up from the road, could you see the air filter?
- fuel pump and surge tank system all mounted same side as exhaust? I started like this and quickly moved it across to the nearside of the car after I fitted the engine and realised how close it was to the exhaust manifold
- fuel feed is from the top of the surge tank (where any air will collect, unless that connection has a pipe that goes to the bottom of the tank?) my feed is from the bottom connection per the handwritten diagram from Mark
- the surge tank is different design to the one Marlin supplied me and Robin
- there are cut-outs in the bonnet stiffening angle to clear the air intake when the bonnet is shut - must remember that one
- exhaust system looks like a style versus performance compromise?(sorry a bit bitchy that one)
- bottom radiator hose adapted using 32mm plumbing fittings - I wish I had thought of that one
- as Robin noted above - the dampers are upside down - does anybody know why?
- nice rubber boots on the wishbones - anyone recognise what they are?

Well that's all I spotted, otherwise a very standard build!

Anyone seen any more?

hey Robin, get writing that manual.........

regards Peter
3 May 2006, 8:13pm
peterux wrote:
Great set of photo's, thanks for posting them for us all to study.

I've been doing a bit studying and also note the following interesting, trivial or useless comments! (in no particular order or significance)

- No BMW rubber connector between the steering shaft and extension rod (is this a safety feature on the original BMW?)
- not using that mine either should give a more direct feel to the steering but if there is a sudden hole in the ground it will knock your hands i guess.
- no adaptor plate fitted between brake master cylinder and servo? (Is this because of Stuart's pedal travel problem?)
- mine like that I bought the new master cylinder from Marlin
- rear ARB fitted despite Marlin's claims that it is not required?
- quite! I think I might ask for the brackets
- as Robin noted above - the dampers are upside down - does anybody know why?
- only thing I can think of is ease of access to the adjuster.

As for the exhaust I cant see that doing the power output of the engine much good - I was worried about going 6:1 for the design I have in mind. Does look nice but I'm not going to get that one for mine - still looking for a good place to get one made ;)

EDIT: The other thing I noticed was the use of poly bushes on the front wishbones rather than the standard rubber.

EDIT2: it looks like the AFM is mounted to the engine.
4 May 2006, 8:52am
I remember asking Mark about mounting front shock upside down a long time ago. I know he said it made no difference and I think his reason for doing so was for ease of adjustment but dont quote me on that. I also asked about mounting AFM to engine and was told it was ok but I'm not convinced. Mounting mine to chassis with rubber bushes.

Alfie
4 May 2006, 9:23am
peterux wrote:

- front indicators look far too low for the SVA?


In speaking to Mark about SVA, he did mention that the car in question had not gone through yet, and that he'd have to changes some things. He specifically mentioned the front indicators, and said that to get it through he'd mount them on stalks, and then put them back to where they are later.

peterux wrote:

- AFM pointing backwards and down - looks good but what about all the rain and dirt thrown up from the road, could you see the air filter?


Couldn't see the filter, sorry.
4 May 2006, 12:04pm
Steering coloumn

peterux wrote:

- Steering column mounted upside down with keys on the nearside (i've done this on mine)


I'm intrigued :confused: - what is the reason for mounting the column upside down?

Robin
4 May 2006, 12:20pm
Looking at mine it would seem the keyhole ends up behind the dash?
4 May 2006, 12:52pm
Hi Robin and Patrick,
I just found that everything lined up better that way. The pictures on the CD supplied by Marlin showed this, as does their latest example above.
The steering column fixing kit came with long bolts and some steel tubes.
The keys end up as shown in one of the pictures above...

Great Old One,
thanks for the pictures.......
Interesting approach to the SVA. Mount the indicators at the correct height and then move them afterwards. hhmmmmm....

best regards

Peter
4 May 2006, 1:06pm
I had a chat with Terry today on my striker pin problem and also mentioned the rear ARB - they have brackets and shes going to send some to me :)
4 May 2006, 5:43pm
Was she surprised about your missing striker plate?
4 May 2006, 7:01pm
peterux wrote:
Was she surprised about your missing striker plate?


Didnt seem like it, she said several chassis were like that. She said they stopped welding these to the chassis as there had sometimes been fitting problems with the doors and the thickness of the fiberglass. So there's a set in the post for me.
8 May 2006, 8:24pm
Patrick wrote:
I had a chat with Terry today on my striker pin problem and also mentioned the rear ARB - they have brackets and shes going to send some to me :)


I recieved the brackets today complete with a bill for £37!!! Terry included two nylon bushes at 10.48+VAT each - i will be giving her a call tomorrow and returning those. Just a little warning if you decided to order them too. I asked for just the brackets.