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Doesn't help when this man stares so closely at it

Glad you posted that - it shows very clearly the step on an original car that DNA are getting flack for - apparently it doesn't pay to go for accuracy - whichever version they copied!

and you clearly know a great deal about Italian cars and their detailing despite protesting otherwise lol!!

Great to speak to many from the forum in person over the Stoneleigh weekend.
It was very successful for us in terms of builds, just not sure where I can find time to sleep.

A previous customer of ours, Dave Hargeaves (Kobra Klassic) has asked us to build a DNA 250 so it will be interesting to see what we can bring to the table. I'm seeing Brian this week to place an order.

However my loyalty is a to the Tribute brand and so there will be no postings of the build on this forum.

Tribute still hold the crown of 'best value for money'.

Glad you posted that - it shows very clearly the step on an original car that DNA are getting flack for - apparently it doesn't pay to go for accuracy!

I agree. I don't like the original as shown in white in your picture but the one behind in red doesn't have the beer ledge and is (in my opinion) prettier. The lights on the red one are more upright and look less like the MG RV8 which I also prefer

I guess I don't like authentic which is why the Z300S wasn't a replica/copy/homage to/inspired by any particular model.

All power to both Tribute and DNA for doing the same thing but slightly differently. Peace among the kit making fraternity may continue now

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All I'll say is that this is the iconic Ferris Bueller car that everybody knows. Right or wrong - love or loath the beer ledge - that's it.

"What's the car mate?" "You seen Ferris Bueller?". Winner!



Why on earth would some one buy a DNA and have it built by someone else? The quality of the demonstrator was second to none

I had forgotton about that (not). Explains the MG rear lights now

The 289 has been replaced with a 351W bored and stroked to 427 cubic inches and dyno’d at over 500hp; a T-5 manual replacing the automatic (Matthew “two-pedal” Broderick couldn’t drive a stick); 13-inch disc brakes were fitted; and coilovers installed in place of a torsion bar suspension. Neil did leave one little dent in the grille, just for history’s sake, and cleaned up some little details, like the MGB taillamps they used on the original.

So the DNA is a replica of a kit car...

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Only a little. As to the beer shelf, it appears solely on the three lightweight alloy Concorrenza bodies, and was probably the first attempt in racing history to exert downforce at the car's rear. With the disastrous 1959 F1 season stretching into 1960 for Ferrari's (front-engined) 246s which were being overrun by Jack Brabham's (rear engined) Cooper, Ferrari began an experiment suggested in 1959 by Giancarlo Baghetti, who'd come over to F1 from road racing at Team Ferrari early in that year. The 250 was the guinea pig, getting an alloy body with a broad read shelf between the tail lamps, to direct the force coming across the boot downward, which proved moderately successful when the fuel tank was near empty, and extremely successful when fully laden.

The three 3 litre (not the 2.7 litre V12) cars were "distributed" to the then-fledgling N.A.R.T. , the French team and Scuderia Ferrari, and the beer shelf proved relatively effective at 24 Heures du Mans at the end of June, 1960. Only four cars surpassed the 300 lap mark at 24 hours - Aston Martin's DBR, which finished third, and the three Ferraris, finishing first, ssecond and fourth. Afterwards, it's said that Enzo Ferrari chided France's Fernand Tavano for finishing in fourth place and not in third. In all events, ground effects were arguably born on that little flat shelf, and the SWB didn't fare too badly thereafter either.

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Shelf or not, it's still a fantastic build!

I'd guess that creating a DNA Build subforum in the Mad Build area couldn't be all that difficult, and it would solve your dilemma. I expect that a fair number of readers here would be quite keen to follow your DNA build, and if DNA had its own "area" on the forum, there'd be no issue with your thread stepping on Chris' toes.

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a Quick snap of one of the 250 SWB from sunday
1DSC_1971w by paul ward, on Flickr

I'm sure the owner must be mortified , if it was your car I know you would be . When I had a look around the car I couldn't pick any faults with it , I thought it was superb for a mere " Kit Car ". I understand this car has seen some track action in poor conditions and spun off. I'm sure that if the owner is happy to take part in track days ( just like the lucky few with the real thing ) then he won't be put off by a tiny stress crack in the paint.

I had a look at your car too and thought it was built to a very high standard. I know you had a few blemishes in the paint but they are now sorted ( well I couldn't see anything wrong with it ). Perhaps if you want perfection you should be looking beyond a budget panel swop on an ageing Z3 donor ??

Not sure what your idea of a "budget" is ? I do know Scott has invested a lot of money in his car.

The problems that arose were not of his making so I can't understand your take on this.

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Jeff I will chat Saturday to sort my stuff out.

Do you prefer do noughts or cookies?

All things being equal the Tribute range are at the budget end of the replica / kit car market. Yes , you can spend a lot of money if you have your car built by a build agent ( time is money ) and that's the route smash has taken. Comparisons have been made with DNA but their products cost £1000's more to get on the road and that's my point. I think Nubodi and Tribute offer a very good product at the price . Compared to many other kits on the market ( Cobra's and the like ) they are a bargain.

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Line drawn under this discussion now.

Nice one.

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The owner understands that on a glass fibre bodied car where two panels butt together there is always the possibility of a movement crack (especially after a track day).

The general public were amazed and enthused about the car and did not get involved with 'nit picking' for their own gratification.

We have booked his car in for three weeks time and will be trying a technique of metal curved rods resin-ed into the join to support it along with other modifications, at our expense of course.

The proud owner (see this months Kitcar magazine) appreciates it was our first Koupe build and were learning on the job. We learn everyday which makes better future builds. We were pleasantly surprised that there were not too many more issues and 98% was great.

Let's draw another line under the nit picking and move on to happy threads and posts about progress, new builds and light hearted piss taking :-)

Agreed...

I thought you of all people would like the'shelf' on the 250cal, it will save you bringing a table to put the beer on at club meets?

I thought you of all people would like the'shelf' on the 250cal, it will save you bringing a table to put the beer on at club meets?

I am getting Chris to do me a modified 275 bonnet with bottle holder and beer fridge fitted...

I have deleted the post from Smash for foul language

This thread has run it's course so now locking it.

JG