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How about looking at it this way
All cobra kits sell for good money
whether it be dax brightwell cobretti pilgrim
Some of them are not well built and not well presented.
It doesn't matter
Because if someone wants it they will pay that price.
As Smash has said he cant build one so if he hadn't gone to Nobodi then he might well have stumped up large ammounts for an unfinished car and taken it to the body shop
The 250swb is a great kit, there are not many out there yet
In years to come the value will be what anyone is willing to pay
Very true , the Cobra market place is probably the closest scene in the kit car industry to the SWB. Again , you won't find much under £20k so that gives you an idea where the SWB should be pitched.
It appears (from an earlier posting) that the seller who achieved 18k wasn't entirely honest in his description of the vehicle origins - not to say there was anything wrong with the vehicle I hasten to add, just that the new owner may have assumed it was something it wasn't (due to the description given)
You could take that either way. I don't think there would have been any doubt that it wasn't a real 250 SWB. The GRP body and BMW running gear is a give away for anyone. The new buyer liked what he saw in front of him and because there were no others to compare it to who is to say it wasn't worth it? If the new owner finished the car with a £2k paint job and a few finishing touches it would be a £20k car all day long imo.
Displayed at Goodwood Revival and Brands Hatch and on offer at just £45k. Not bad for a modified Type 1 Beetle. Mind you, I'd have it in a high-profile classic auction rather than alongside the 'good runner' (before engine blew) bangers on ebay.
Btw, the biggest gripes I have with early Porsche replicas is when the builder wastes money on shiny chrome cooling tin and blingy 'billet' alloy pedals, but then utterly spoils the overall look of the car by using four bolt hubs and wheels instead of the correct wide five bolt hubs.
Picky, I know, but it's the little details that make a car like this convincing.
Perhaps too much attention to detail to be convincing?
Compare the replica with a real one (below), and you won't find any rows of exposed, polished alloy rivets or diamond plate polished stainless steel flooring in the real thing.
Note the simple rubber floor mats, rubber pedals (VW?) and a black painted handbrake lever. There's also no chrome windscreen surround on the real thing.
I think the replica is stunning and much prefer it. But as do all that work it's a shame it has so much poxy beetle running gear and suspension. Alfa flat 4 perhaps?
Me too, but you can't argue with Japanese reliability. Have you driven a Subaru boxer? What an engine! The one I used at work was a 130hp non-turbo 2 litre in a Forester. Turbine smooth, an easy 7,000rpm and an addictive and charismatic sound track worthy of any Italian classic, it would happily blast along at a genuine 120mph+ all day long. I only managed 7mpg on one tank full mind...
I had a Forester Turbo for a few weeks. Great fun until the corners. Also, as you said as the rev needle flicks one direction the fuel needle flicks the other. Took it to Le Mans with a bunch of mates and all five of us got a chance to pay for a tank of fuel.
Me too, but you can't argue with Japanese reliability. Have you driven a Subaru boxer? What an engine! The one I used at work was a 130hp non-turbo 2 litre in a Forester. Turbine smooth, an easy 7,000rpm and an addictive and charismatic sound track worthy of any Italian classic.
My daily driver has a 3 litre busso
7mpg that's a good effort. I can't get my Integrale to do much less on track and that's got 300hp
£7600 did not meet the reserve 10k but would more than cover the cost of the build. 6 emails how much would you take mate as always so unless someone comes up with the wonga it will be painted and badged up ready for the show. guy at the paint shop said as its a big car it would look good in white witch is a colour I would never think of. still like to do it with the racing numbers and stripes but dont know about the colour
I will probably upset a lot of people here but this is how it is. Its been hard to bite my tongue but here goes....
I predicted to smash and ericholm it would go to £7500. The general public cannot see potential and do not like 'unfinished'. It s so worth painting, badging and finishing. What you spend on these you will recoup 3 times in the final price. I have been offered £20,000 for my Kalifornia. Yes really, I'm not dreaming or making it up. I would need at least £24,000 even then not sure. I regularly get emails asking to buy it.
Chris Evans is a fool to paint his white but we all know that.
Colour is important. White does not sell...look at the white mx250's on ebay that struggle to make what they cost to build. I know its a cliche but red would be the most salable colour. You have to get out of the mentality of what you want now as you are selling it. Throw those mirrors away and put on some cheap Ital ones, they are not helping. They may look great of a hot rod not on a classic recreation. Try and get it as close to the original as possible and you will open your marketplace immeasurably.
I have spoken to Chris about throwing kits on a donor and selling it on for a quick profit, cheaply. Its creating a ceiling price that's hard to break through. Its not helping the resale potential of this model. He now agrees and hopefully with this advice we can all profit and benefit from it.
Do not sell on ebay. You buy from ebay and gumtree. You need to put it on the classic sites or maybe a classic auction. That's where the money is waiting.
Ive been doing this a long time, I really do not care if you want to attack me about this as I continue to get top prices for my builds. I have never got less than £10,000 for a Kobra and expect at least double that for a Koupe.
"Do not sell on ebay. You buy from ebay and gumtree. You need to put it on the classic sites or maybe a classic auction. That's where the money is waiting"
I will probably upset a lot of people here but this is how it is. Its been hard to bite my tongue but here goes....
I predicted to smash and ericholm it would go to £7500. The general public cannot see potential and do not like 'unfinished'. It s so worth painting, badging and finishing. What you spend on these you will recoup 3 times in the final price. I have been offered £20,000 for my Kalifornia. Yes really, I'm not dreaming or making it up. I would need at least £24,000 even then not sure. I regularly get emails asking to buy it.
Chris Evans is a fool to paint his white but we all know that.
Colour is important. White does not sell...look at the white mx250's on ebay that struggle to make what they cost to build. I know its a cliche but red would be the most salable colour. You have to get out of the mentality of what you want now as you are selling it. Throw those mirrors away and put on some cheap Ital ones, they are not helping. They may look great of a hot rod not on a classic recreation. Try and get it as close to the original as possible and you will open your marketplace immeasurably.
I have spoken to Chris about throwing kits on a donor and selling it on for a quick profit, cheaply. Its creating a ceiling price that's hard to break through. Its not helping the resale potential of this model. He now agrees and hopefully with this advice we can all profit and benefit from it.
Do not sell on ebay. You buy from ebay and gumtree. You need to put it on the classic sites or maybe a classic auction. That's where the money is waiting.
Ive been doing this a long time, I really do not care if you want to attack me about this as I continue to get top prices for my builds. I have never got less than £10,000 for a Kobra and expect at least double that for a Koupe.
Every one of my unfinished projects that I have built/sold has provided each buyer (trade and general public) with good value and a short cut to a vehicle that they can, and have, finished to whichever level of finish they choose or can afford to meet.
Being a small business in a niche market can be very hard in terms of cash flow and profit margins. With this in mind I will continue to sell unfinished projects to satisfied customers for the price that we have both agreed on.
If anyone wishes to PM or contact email on [email]info@tributeautomotive.co.uk[/email] or ring me within working hours to discuss further I will be more than happy to continue being both polite and factual.
I understand the views being expressed here, but there are those of us (I suspect, rather a lot) who regard the cliched 'Fake Ferrari in Red' as rather offputting. Period inspired detailing that enhances the car's already fine looks, yes. Prancing horses and bolt-on wires, no.
Each to our own, of course, but there's nothing certain in such a subjective market.
Not sure that multi-millionaire Chris Evans is an idiot either...white doesn't smother shapes.
