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Deed is done!

4 Jan 2016, 10:35am
Actually we have just agreed to another build....yes I know I just cant say no. Anyway he is going with similar wheels but wants the spokes painted in glass black to give this sort of look

4 Jan 2016, 10:42am
Exactly what I was considering after seeing this barn find California:



Mclean Wire Wheels in the states do black chrome spokes:

4 Jan 2016, 11:40am
Tribute Automotive wrote:


Try [url]www.turrinowheels.com[/url] for wires.


Cheers - I've emailed them. Expecting big money!

Chris do you know/remember what the wheels on this one were?

5 Jan 2016, 12:28pm
Cheers - just thought they looked different to your 15's somehow?
5 Jan 2016, 1:06pm
Have you been wearing those comedy beer goggles you got for Christmas again?
5 Jan 2016, 2:31pm
as a wise man once said, some cars don't need beer goggles!
5 Jan 2016, 10:20pm
smash wrote:
Cheers - just thought they looked different to your 15's somehow?


They are different. The centres aren"t the same as MWS wheels and the offset is slightly different, but can't say what make they are as I bought them used on eBay.
6 Jan 2016, 10:45am
Tell me bout it!! Over 2k for wheels and tyres - eek!

Still no reply from either Dayton or Turino :icon_neutral:

There's also Hallewell who is bespoke (there's a gag in there if you're desperate!) but I don't think he does bolt ons.
6 Jan 2016, 3:56pm
Not a big fan of bolt-on wires myself and the 5x120 pcd ones MWS supply don't have quite the rim offset I'd be looking for. Funds permitting I'd go for a set of these at just under £1100 (including adaptors and spinners but plus tyres) -

http://shop.mwsint.com/product_details.asp?id=490

http://shop.mwsint.com/product_details.asp?id=415

http://shop.mwsint.com/product_details.asp?id=392

The rim offset on those looks much more Borrani like than any others I've seen but at about the same price for four as one Borrani would set you back.

As they're only six inches wide, I'd like to think they'd fit without mods to the arches despite the 2.5" track increase that the adaptors give.
6 Jan 2016, 5:32pm
Get a bolt on hub adaptor like I did and buy some old wires* from ebay?

*Make sure they are not MG / TR as they are not strong enough

Set of 5 for £250 : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-WIRE-WHEELS-SET-OF-5-15-INCH-X-6J-E-TYPE-MARK-2-/121856680601?hash=item1c5f396299:g:ragAAOSwZ1lWcttF

Set of 4 for £499 : FkAAOSwDNdVz4zO" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGC-GT-Healey-100-3000-wire-wheels-72-spoke-15-inch-Vredenstein-tyres-set-of-4-/151781088400?hash=item2356db9c90:g:pFkAAOSwDNdVz4zO

Set of 5 for £349 : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGC-MGB-V8-wire-spoke-wheels-15-inch-72-spoke-5J-Healey-Jaguar-Aston-wires-/141866792138?hash=item2107eb74ca:g:UTkAAOSwYaFWb~s-
6 Jan 2016, 6:18pm
They won't fit mate - the only wire wheels that will fit without body mods are bead lace bolt ons.

The problem with those wires you've posted is even though they're 6" width because they're well laced the offset is -10mm which means they stick 50mm further out than stock Z3 alloys before you've accounted for the extra width of the adaptors as Andy found out:

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5449&page=2

If you want wires it's bolt ons or arch extensions I'm afraid.

SNG Barratt are Dayton dealers but only for jag wheels - still I've asked for a quote on a set of Jag Dayton direct bolts
6 Jan 2016, 6:27pm
Used Jag wires are definitely a cheaper option and look just fine on a Z300S, but I'd still prefer the dished look of the AC style from MWS on a 250 -



6 Jan 2016, 6:39pm
smash wrote:
They won't fit mate - the only wire wheels that will fit without body mods are bead lace bolt ons.

The problem with those wires you've posted is even though they're 6" width because they're well laced the offset is -10mm which means they stick 50mm further out than stock Z3 alloys before you've accounted for the extra width of the adaptors as Andy found out:

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5449&page=2

If you want wires it's bolt ons or arch extensions I'm afraid.

SNG Barratt are Dayton dealers but only for jag wheels - still I've asked for a quote on a set of Jag Dayton direct bolts


Oops, thanks for this, I'm afraid my 'net connection is running slow so I didn't see your input before adding my next post.

I see that Andy was able to extend the arches to compensate at the back while the fronts didn't seem to cause an issue. They were also 7.5" wide and presumably used quite wide tyres (couldn't see a reference to tyre size). If I ever decide to go with wires (once I finally get to build the car!) I'd want to fit the 6" wide MWS AC style or stick with my home-made Dunlopalikes -

6 Jan 2016, 6:40pm
The 300S is wider hence you can get away with the well laced wheels.

I'm pretty sure everyone would love Borani style dishing of the real thing but it's simply not physically possible on the Tribute 250
6 Jan 2016, 7:47pm
I'm hoping the MWS AC Cobra 289 wheels will fit. They look good with the deep dish and will be OK with 195/70 - 15 tyres, very close to original spec.

At only £170 each ( Painted Finish ) they are good value too.
6 Jan 2016, 7:48pm
We have just commissioned some shorter splined hubs to fit with E-type 'curly hub' wheels. These will fit under the arches okay. You do have to use shallow head wheel boots though but no big deal.
I only have a photo of the first attempt which stuck out about 2", but you can imagine the revised ones just shorter. Unfortunately they are made by the best hub engineering company in the land, so do not come cheap.
They cost £595 a set of four. Most can only be safe up to 150BHP these will go to 300BHP. It seems a shame to cover them up!

6 Jan 2016, 7:51pm
We have just sold a set to a customer who says wheels and paint make a car so cutting corners here is false economy (for him anyway).



6 Jan 2016, 8:00pm
Just for your interest one of our other customers has provided a tyre comparison chart. The one at the bottom is the standard BMW wheel fitted to the front and back of the car for reference.

6 Jan 2016, 8:02pm
Tgats great and looks like a cheaper option but it does reinforce my point as you can see from photo they are bead lace wheels so no dishing which the guys above think they're capable of getting. You can't have dishing.
6 Jan 2016, 8:03pm
This is his car so you can gauge the gap under the arches with standard wheels and tyres

6 Jan 2016, 8:18pm
How much narrower are the narrow Z3 cars , would that be enough to get it all under the arch ?