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Finished Tribute Kobra On Ebay

7 Jul 2015, 12:33pm
Each to their own of course, but I've always found the 427 Cobra to look a bit fat (not fat as in sick, but fat as in overweight, if that makes sense?)



To me the 289 or Ace look much classier.

As replicas/homages of the 427 go though, to me, Tribute's offering looks pretty similar to any of the other£40k (really?) offerings when finished to a good standard.
7 Jul 2015, 1:28pm
Cobras are great because they're kits... so you just get a trolley and fill it up with all the bits you need, Smiths dials, Halibrands etc... you don't have to design or make parts.
7 Jul 2015, 6:19pm
I checked the link above to the UK Cobra Club. looks like they have 4 pages on the subject now !

Many of the comments are positive if you read through. The UK Cobra Club should look back to the late 80's early 90's when the Pilgrim Sumo was launched with a Cortina donor car , it went on to be the biggest Cobra selling copy of the lot. Largely down to price and easy to build nature. That was followed by others such as Brightwheel Viper , KD 289 , even Hawk Cobras were based on an MGB !

So really Tribute is an up to date version of the pioneers of the "Budget " Sumo etc etc Cobra replica.
7 Jul 2015, 6:42pm
cobra

ive just spent 3 hours arguing with them,that i should be allowed to use cobra replicant in my add.
to sum up i told them cobra is not a trademark as shelby lost the case,plus every cobra kit on there is using cobra in the listing so i was being victimized.
they agreed i could use it only if i asked all the bidders to cancel their bids,then i could alter heading as they were unable to do this for me.
if i ended the listing they would take a per centage of the final bid.
at over 6k ,i was,nt standing for that.
i cancelled the bids myself,reason given no contact :lie:,got the auction back to .99p and then cancelled.......take that ebay you robbing g-ts.
so relisted again another tenner with cobra in the listing.
just waiting to see their reaction this time:tea:
7 Jul 2015, 7:30pm
Well done , you're 100% right to follow it up . Everyone knows its a Cobra replica , all be it with BMW running gear .

If you were made to remove the Cobra wording then every other Cobra kit on there should have been removed.

You have my support if they remove your ad again , I'll report any other "Cobra" kit listed so they will have to remove those too !

I think some of the comments aimed at you in person on the Uk Cobra sight are highly offensive , you might consider them slander , I hope you have read them, but you will be shocked.

At the end of the day we are here to enjoy our hobby so I don't understand all the fuss really!
7 Jul 2015, 7:46pm
cobra

i could,nt care less either way.
i dont even know why they thought my comments were aimed at cobra,s,i,d love to own one.
but my sole aim is to make money,so i,d sell even if it was a super snake.
its getting alot of attention which ever way you look at it.
might have a crack at the farrari one next and say its best on ebay that should get the blood flowing.
anyway got to take the dog for a walk now,and they gas axe something else on the drive .YEE HAAAAAA
7 Jul 2015, 8:17pm
You've really wound them up! Just like most groups, they're formed of some people who are tolerant of others and some who are scared. Rog is very much in the latter camp, and needs help with his anger issues. I see from his profile that he's 57. If he doesn't learn to chill, I'll bet he'll be an early mortality statistic within a few years. He probably has the same attitude towards ACOC members who despise him and his copycat kit car.
Shame really, as we're all car enthusiasts whatever we drive.
7 Jul 2015, 9:36pm
When I was a lad, I lived in a town where the coachbuilders who made AC bodywork were also located. The chassis for the Ace were transported in and the ally bodywork was formed over plywood frames and then attached. I remember seeing two and three silver cars together being driven back towards the main factory at Thames Ditton.

Those Aces had straight six engines- Ford Zephyr Zodiac, Bristol or AC's own.

It occurs to me that when Mr Shelby dropped his 289 V8 into one and found it lacking in the handling department and decided it needed a wider track- what did he do but swap or have swapped, the existing front and rear wings (or "bodywork") for wider ones.

See the pattern emerging here- they do say that there's nothing new under the sun...

As I see it, the only true replica is an Autokraft which was licensed by Shelby. But cobra has become a generic term like seven or buggy. Everyone knows what they look like and what to expect.

I too noted Roger's age and location- I have formed an opinion of him.
7 Jul 2015, 9:42pm
cobra

yeah funny eh
i just looked at the link to their forum and comments.
i think he,s wound them up more than i did,funny what he wrote about me,i never swore or called him names once,
i only asked if he was related to the shackleton that went to the pole,then he got quite abusive.
so i then suggested if they ever remake dads army,i,d put him down for captain mainwaring.
odd thing though my phone numbers on the ad and he never give me a call.
mind you i,m from Tenby in south wales and we,ve got a sense of humour
8 Jul 2015, 6:23am
I've noticed over the years, having had a wide variety of cars and been on numerous forums, the lack of humour amongst a lot of club members. People take themselves and their cars way to seriously, I love cars and appreciate the work people put into them so don't care what people drive, although I do draw the line at Marina's and Lomax's :-) I had a lot of negative comments about my MX5 from the OC because I had a V8 in it. My favourite was 'Not one for the purist' ! It was a bloody mx5, they're as common as dog shit.
The AC lot really do dislike the Cobra kits but mainly because they're badged as AC's which they're clearly not. In a way you can't blame them for that seeing they can't even use the AC badge/emblem for their own club logo, dispute with present owner.
There is an awful lot of snobbery out there amongst car clubs/owners which is a shame as most people are just out to enjoy their cars.

Andy
8 Jul 2015, 6:34am
Too right Andy. I also noticed what a sniffy lot some of the kit car club members at Stoneleigh and Castle Coombe recently - except Tribute Automotive and Nubodi of course + a couple of others.
8 Jul 2015, 6:46am
I would just like to point out that I drive the only original Z300S Barchetta and that all of the rest are replicas and kits and should be registered as such

:-)
8 Jul 2015, 6:58am
gas guzzler wrote:
... although I do draw the line at Marina's ...


You really shouldn't because there are only 22 left on the road (and 33 SORN - presumably rusting away in the back gardens of the 22 owners who are keeping them for spares).
8 Jul 2015, 7:45am
As the chairman and founding (only) member of the Fiat Gamine Vignale Appreciation Society, I am currently engaged in a legal battle with one Mr Noddy of Toytown.

This has been dragging on for years, starting when I sent him a solicitor's letter quite rightly complaining about him giving an upright driving position with your face exposed to the elements two feet above the windscreen a bad name.

Noddy's immediate response was to turn up at my house with some of his friends.

It started with the verbals, then a bit of pushing and shoving but Mr Wobbly Man got funny and fists started flying. I'm pretty handy and landed some good punches but I couldn't put him down.

When Big Ears stepped in with a wise comment everyone calmed down. F*cking do-gooder.

After that the legal battle carried on in the background while Noddy's mates tried to make my life hell. I found Sly and Gobbo poking around in my garden shed at 4 in the morning but they denied doing anything wrong, saying they were just looking for Bumpy Dog who'd run off. The next time I rode my bike though, the wheels fell off.

At the end of my tether and looking for revenge I put sugar in Noddy's fuel tank. Mr Sparks took a look, exclaimed 'A challenge? I like it!' and had Noddy back on the road in no time. At least he charged him a six hundred quid out of hours call out fee. Plus VAT.

Most recently I managed to get an injunction to stop Noddy driving his car. When he breached it, I dialled the nines and got Mr Plod involved, telling him to seize Noddy's car.

Once Mr Plod had taken far too long examining the injunction paperwork (imho) he reluctantly told Noddy he had to give up his car. Noddy was having none of it and kept hold of his motor as Mr Plod tried to take it off him. Eventually they both fell down and everybody laughed.



Noddy got to keep the car so I'm putting a complaint into the IPCC (Independent Pixie Complaints Commission).

Anyway, I'm going to win this pointless legal battle, even if it kills me.

Got to go now, Mr Jumbo's just turned up at my house and I think things are about to get heavy...
8 Jul 2015, 8:04am
Call your next door neighbour Mr Tubby Bear - he loves a good scrap
8 Jul 2015, 8:09am
His first name is Rog - I think he has a £ 40,000 cobra - well thats what he tells everyone.
8 Jul 2015, 2:13pm
Mister Towed wrote:
As the chairman and founding (only) member of the Fiat Gamine Vignale Appreciation Society


When I was a nipper, 'gamin' was a local colloquialism for cunninglingus. No wonder you appreciate it.
8 Jul 2015, 7:09pm
Evening,
Can't stand things like this, i have never understood why people get all in a bunch over someone else's version on a theme. The truly sad thing is they fail to realise the total irony in their umbridge with the Z3 based Kobra.
ALL their cars are fakes, not one of them is real, they are mostly based on old fords or jags, one of the threads talks about Ford transit brakes.
Ok some of them are true kits, built from brand new boxed parts, but i bet thats the minority. They are all driving something that pretends to be something its not, so why get so ars*y about someone else finding a much cheaper & more efficient way to do the same?

I used to (many years ago) run a car club in Cheshire, it started off ok, but over time the older members, with their cars that they had owned for years, started to take offence when the newer, younger members started to turn up with newer, brighter more reliable machinery and at certain shows were given pride of place. After a while it got to the point where the bickering was so bad, i just walked away from it. Within 3 months, members had gone from 55 to 13.

All i can see on the Cobra forum board, is the old guys, getting all up in a bunch over the new kids...
8 Jul 2015, 8:25pm
griffj wrote:
Evening,
Can't stand things like this, i have never understood why people get all in a bunch over someone else's version on a theme. The truly sad thing is they fail to realise the total irony in their umbridge with the Z3 based Kobra.
ALL their cars are fakes, not one of them is real, they are mostly based on old fords or jags, one of the threads talks about Ford transit brakes.
Ok some of them are true kits, built from brand new boxed parts, but i bet thats the minority. They are all driving something that pretends to be something its not, so why get so ars*y about someone else finding a much cheaper & more efficient way to do the same?

I used to (many years ago) run a car club in Cheshire, it started off ok, but over time the older members, with their cars that they had owned for years, started to take offence when the newer, younger members started to turn up with newer, brighter more reliable machinery and at certain shows were given pride of place. After a while it got to the point where the bickering was so bad, i just walked away from it. Within 3 months, members had gone from 55 to 13.

All i can see on the Cobra forum board, is the old guys, getting all up in a bunch over the new kids...


You are quite right . Its time to drop this . I hope the seller of this Tribute Kobra gets a good return on what looks like a superb effort. Its the best one I've seen so far.
8 Jul 2015, 8:59pm
Never any bickering at the Tribute Owners club meetings*

*okay, we have never actually had an official meeting but I am sure we wouldn't bicker as everyone knows that I am the only 'original' Z300S and the rest of you are driving replicas :-)
9 Jul 2015, 4:51pm
WorldClassAccident wrote:
Never any bickering at the Tribute Owners club meetings*

*okay, we have never actually had an official meeting but I am sure we wouldn't bicker as everyone knows that I am the only 'original' Z300S and the rest of you are driving replicas :-)


Perhaps there should be a National Tribute Day , maybe next year , early summer. There should be lots of finished cars by then . Nothing too formal though , strictly NO concours de elegance , that would be wrong on a number of levels ! Just a get together , fun day out !
9 Jul 2015, 5:40pm
Good idea - where are we all based so we can choose a place to meet
9 Jul 2015, 6:47pm
Roadster wrote:
Good idea - where are we all based so we can choose a place to meet


Outside roger the 40k cobra owners house would be a good choice
9 Jul 2015, 7:23pm
We could check their website and find when they are having a gathering

It would be interesting to see build quality etc

I don't think they are all like Rog